MAK Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Are you sure? He'll be 27 this time next year. The CBA gives UFA status according to the following provision: "in 2007-08, a player age 28 with four accrued seasons or with seven accrued seasons" Next year, he'll have the 4 accrued seasons (since they credit the lockout year), but will fall short of the age limit (which drops to 27 for 2008-09). His time in the ECHL and AHL don't count towards the 7 years... Unless I understand this wrong, he's not unrestricted for another two seasons (including the upcoming one)... you could be right. it thought it went down to 27 years old next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smon Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 2.4M/1yr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Stoll may set Ryder's market Edmonton avoided arbitration with a $4.4 over 2 year signing. The numbers (performance related) are somewhat close. Will Ryder get 2.2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalieguy Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Stoll may set Ryder's market Edmonton avoided arbitration with a $4.4 over 2 year signing. The numbers (performance related) are somewhat close. Will Ryder get 2.2? That sounds pretty fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCeh Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 The Canadiens fanbase is known to cover Atlantic Canada, but you might not know it reading this Telegram piece on Ryder's arbitration. The Newfoundland perspective is a novel contrast to Québec's point of view. That Ryder’s even going to arbitration is somewhat surprising. A restricted free agent, the Canadiens made the right-winger a qualifying offer of $1 million, the same money he earned last year when he led the Canadiens with 30 goals. That topped the 25 he registered as a rookie when he was finalist for the Calder Trophy. More perplexing is the Canadiens signed Mike Ribeiro to a $1.9 million deal earlier this month, a big increase on the $1.1 million he made last year when he totaled 51 points, down from 65 in 2003-04. Ryder won’t say anything — it’s not his way to rock the boat — but there appears to be a certain of lack of respect for the Bonavista hockey player who’s proven himself time and again. The media, especially the francophone reporters, all but ignore Ryder, though that may be the result of his penchant of not saying a whole lot during interviews. [...] That the two sides are going before an arbitrator only fuels the thinking in some corners Ryder would be a more valued employee elsewhere. [...] That Ryder is a finisher around the net isn’t news to the Canadiens, and they won’t go there before the arbitrator. But Montreal will likely exploit the fact Ryder was a late draft pick (216th overall in 1998) for a reason, that he’s not an easy skater, that he has defensive deficiencies. [...] The big question Campbell will undoubtedly ask is whether Ryder can contribute more than Ribeiro, who is lazy and plays scared. In that regard, Campbell seems to have an open and shut case for at least $1.9 million. The bitterness towards Ryder's treatment is layed on thick. Dumping on Ribeiro is mutual at any rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 1.9M 1year B) The Canadiens fanbase is known to cover Atlantic Canada, but you might not know it reading this Telegram piece on Ryder's arbitration. The Newfoundland perspective is a novel contrast to Québec's point of view. That Ryder’s even going to arbitration is somewhat surprising. A restricted free agent, the Canadiens made the right-winger a qualifying offer of $1 million, the same money he earned last year when he led the Canadiens with 30 goals. That topped the 25 he registered as a rookie when he was finalist for the Calder Trophy. More perplexing is the Canadiens signed Mike Ribeiro to a $1.9 million deal earlier this month, a big increase on the $1.1 million he made last year when he totaled 51 points, down from 65 in 2003-04. Ryder won’t say anything — it’s not his way to rock the boat — but there appears to be a certain of lack of respect for the Bonavista hockey player who’s proven himself time and again. The media, especially the francophone reporters, all but ignore Ryder, though that may be the result of his penchant of not saying a whole lot during interviews. [...] That the two sides are going before an arbitrator only fuels the thinking in some corners Ryder would be a more valued employee elsewhere. [...] That Ryder is a finisher around the net isn’t news to the Canadiens, and they won’t go there before the arbitrator. But Montreal will likely exploit the fact Ryder was a late draft pick (216th overall in 1998) for a reason, that he’s not an easy skater, that he has defensive deficiencies. [...] The big question Campbell will undoubtedly ask is whether Ryder can contribute more than Ribeiro, who is lazy and plays scared. In that regard, Campbell seems to have an open and shut case for at least $1.9 million. The bitterness towards Ryder's treatment is layed on thick. Dumping on Ribeiro is mutual at any rate. They don't know anything... The truth is that the Habs surely made an offer (like they surely do to all their RFAs) but he didn't like the ballpark... so they both opted for arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 (edited) Ryder for Gomez??? Works for me. That is, IF Ryder continues to stalwart us. Edited July 22, 2006 by ATHLÉTIQUE.CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthMonger Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Ryder for Gomez??? Works for me. That is, IF Ryder continues to stalwart us. Stalwart is an adjective which means dependable and loyal. I'm thinking you meant to go the other way with that one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvvrob Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 i think it will be on the high end of the 2.X - more like 2.8 or 2.9 - but definitely under 3 - and definitely more than 2.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Ryder for Gomez??? Works for me. That is, IF Ryder continues to stalwart us. stonewall i think is the word... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 York may help set Ryder's market too York was rewarded $2.85 for a one year term. Poor Snow The numbers (performance related; points) are somewhat close. But, York only scored 13 but had 52 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCeh Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 Mike York can claim a past all-star season, while Ryder's only completed a full second season. That ought to reduce equalling the $2.85 million by a few hundred thousand dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobRock Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 First, it's great to see someone in Ontario reading a Newfoundland paper's website. Second, Ribeiro is mentioned once or twice. I would hardly call that dumping on him, whether it's merited or not. He had a drop off in production and got a raise. Ryder's performance didn't drop off, and he got the minimum qualifying offer. I'd be a little bitter in that situation as well. But don't lay that on Ryder, lay it on the writer, who's a bit of an idiot anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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