Chris Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 There was absolutely no chance of this making the playoffs without Price. No chance. They were the worst team in the league since thanksgiving. No trade would have fixed that, unless you swapped rosters with another team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 There was absolutely no chance of this making the playoffs without Price. No chance. They were the worst team in the league since thanksgiving. No trade would have fixed that, unless you swapped rosters with another team. Respectfully disagree. Condon had maybe three good games this year. One shutout the entire year, and the Habs went I believe four months between them. Scrivens and Tokarski are AHLers. (I'll at least give Condon credit for being a mediocre backup). They could have made the playoffs with a .500 record, and instead, they were the worst team in the league during that span, with the worst goaltending. Throughout December they outplayed the other teams and the goaltending couldn't come through. When they realized no help was coming from Bergevin, they sagged. And a season slipped away with absolutely no attempt to salvage a forty game span. The argument against the inactivity is that Bergevin knew Price would be out long term, but he said in the press conference that wasn't the case. So what's the right answer here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 They are what they are. A terrible team without Price. For a team that's motto is no excuses, this team, coaches and fans sure have a lot of them. They also cough up close to 13 mill for Eller, DD and plecks and combined you barely have a 40 goal scorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Good post. The entire game I was wondering how the hell Detroit made the playoffs and Montreal didn't. They do play an absolute shit brand of hockey.Speaks to just how bad our coaching is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Detroit bugs me. They've parlayed ridiculous good fortune at the drafting table (Datsyuk and Zetterberg) - sheer, absurd luck - into this legend of themselves as the gold standard of awesomeness. And even though they haven't really achieved anything in years they're still "ooh'd" and "aaah'd" over. That's a franchise that's way overdue for a good crash if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Look at Detroit's prospect pool for their defencemen. It's really bad. Xavier Ouellett might become a #5-#6 and he's by far their best D prospect. Deykeser signing with them was an accident more than smart strategy and scouting. If they lose Kronwall anytime soon that blueline will drop hard for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Look at Detroit's prospect pool for their defencemen. It's really bad. Xavier Ouellett might become a #5-#6 and he's by far their best D prospect. Deykeser signing with them was an accident more than smart strategy and scouting. If they lose Kronwall anytime soon that blueline will drop hard for years to come. Well, that's what I want to see. With all due respect to the Kostantinov tragedy, that organization has had a gigantic horseshoe up its arse ever since. Compare that to (say), ye Habs, with key players missing entire seasons or going down in key playoff series seemingly all the damned time, it gets a bit sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I know Petry has a lot of fans on this forum, but I bet Detroit would pay a pretty penny if Bergevin dangled him. Look at Detroit's prospect pool for their defencemen. It's really bad. Xavier Ouellett might become a #5-#6 and he's by far their best D prospect. Deykeser signing with them was an accident more than smart strategy and scouting. If they lose Kronwall anytime soon that blueline will drop hard for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Most thought Petry was going to become a Red Wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Detroit really wanted him and I think Petry would have gone there if not for Price and Subban asking him to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Most thought Petry was going to become a Red Wing. I was the loudest voice in that camp, for assumed sentimental reasons. His, not mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Detroit really wanted him and I think Petry would have gone there if not for Price and Subban asking him to stay. Petry seemed to get caught up in the excitement of a young team with some high-end talent and a really great room. After the horror show in Edmonton, Montreal no doubt seemed unbelievably awesome. The joke is on him, of course - all those positives went right down the crapper this season. The problem with trading Petry, obviously, is that it's just patching one hole by creating another. He is an important player on our blueline, not easily replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I only say Petry because of how badly Detroit wanted him. Maybe a player like Martha becomes available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I don't think need to worry about Petry being traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I don't think need to worry about Petry being traded. No, I agree. I have trouble seeing ANY of our defenders being moved, really. We have a good corps, but it's not strong enough that we can subtract any major piece from it without creating huge structural problems for ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 No, I agree. I have trouble seeing ANY of our defenders being moved, really. We have a good corps, but it's not strong enough that we can subtract any major piece from it without creating huge structural problems for ourselves. except maybe emelin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 except maybe emelin Ha, yes, you're right. We can probably live without Emelin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 Wow, is Philly ever imploding in the 3rd period tonight. 3 4 PPG's allowed, 3 misconducts, and now they're down 3 games in the series. Not a great way to honour the memory of Ed Snider... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Wow, is Philly ever imploding in the 3rd period tonight. 3 4 PPG's allowed, 3 misconducts, and now they're down 3 games in the series. Not a great way to honour the memory of Ed Snider... 3 misconducts - that sounds like the perfect way to honour snider! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Wow, is Philly ever imploding in the 3rd period tonight. 3 4 PPG's allowed, 3 misconducts, and now they're down 3 games in the series. Not a great way to honour the memory of Ed Snider... Sounds like Game 4 (I believe) of Ottawa-Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Shaw on the top line for Chicago. But nah, playing grinders in your top six is only done by Therrien. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Shaw on the top line for Chicago. But nah, playing grinders in your top six is only done by Therrien. Therrien is a loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Shaw on the top line for Chicago. But nah, playing grinders in your top six is only done by Therrien. Yeah, he has exactly four top-6 forwards...how dare he play bottom-6 guys in the top-6 So many of the criticisms of Therren apply to so many other coaches, it's kind of silly. I still regret that Crawford isn't our man, but I'm not banging my head against the wall about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Yeah, he has exactly four top-6 forwards...how dare he play bottom-6 guys in the top-6 So many of the criticisms of Therren apply to so many other coaches, it's kind of silly. I still regret that Crawford isn't our man, but I'm not banging my head against the wall about it. Yes you are, see fire Therrien thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Yes you are, see fire Therrien thread. Don't make unwarranted inferences. I'd rather Crawford be our coach than Therrien. At the same time, I see Therrien as a perfectly decent NHL coach and am not enraged at the decision to keep him. Some of us are capable of saying (1) we think X would be an upgrade but that (2) the status quo is reasonable. See? It's not that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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