dlbalr Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 The offseason is now officially underway (making the last two months effectively the pre-offseason). The biggest news so far over the last few days? Anaheim re-hired Randy Carlyle as their head coach. I had read the rumours saying he was a candidate but I thought that was them just giving him a token interview as a courtesy, never did I actually think he'd be back. Buyouts begin tomorrow so watch for a few players to hit the waiver wire in the next day or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Carlyle back to appease the veteran core, or crack the whip and maybe take them to the next level, like he did once before I might add? Since I couldn't care less about the Ducks, I hope it doesn't work. What I thought was interesting on the coaching front as well is Mike Yeo hired by St. Louis now, to take over after Hitchcock's finale as the Blues coach next season. Is that not weird? Or is it good preparation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 It's weird but not entirely unprecedented. The Habs did that (sort of) in 2005-06 when Gainey became interim coach midseason and hired Carbonneau as the coach-in-waiting while being an assistant for the rest of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Carlyle back to appease the veteran core, or crack the whip and maybe take them to the next level, like he did once before I might add? Since I couldn't care less about the Ducks, I hope it doesn't work. What I thought was interesting on the coaching front as well is Mike Yeo hired by St. Louis now, to take over after Hitchcock's finale as the Blues coach next season. Is that not weird? Or is it good preparation? Sounds like a muller Therrien situation, only Hitchcock is regarded as a better coach than Therrien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Sounds like a muller Therrien situation, only Hitchcock is regarded as a better coach than Therrien I love the fact that Muller is equipped to replace MT should we come to that. However, it's surely wrong to think that Bergevin hired Muller with the intention of supplanting Therrien. If he wanted Therrien out, he'd have fired him, period. So it's not really an analogous situation. Hitch is leaving on his own terms, and the team is preparing a transition plan. It's unusual, but not a terrible idea on the face of it. Yeo is also an interesting choice - a flop on his first go, but a guy who may have learned a lot from his failure and who will learn still more from sitting on Hitchcock's ample knee. They've clearly identified him as a guy with great potential given further mentorship. I like the commitment to coaching development and internal stability that this approach demonstrates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Bickell and Terevainen (sp?) to Carolina for a 2016 2nd and a 2017 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Wow. Cap problems 101 just happenned in Chicago. Bickell and Teravainen to Carolina for a 2nd pick in 2016 and a 3rd pick in 2017. A high price to pay just for the sake of unloading Bickell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Wow. Cap problems 101 just happenned in Chicago. Bickell and Teravainen to Carolina for a 2nd pick in 2016 and a 3rd pick in 2017. A high price to pay just for the sake of unloading Bickell... Strictly a cap move. The loss is teravainen a young guy 21 who shows a lot of upside. Really good deal for Carolina. I wonder if they will buy bickell out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Strictly a cap move. The loss is teravainen a young guy 21 who shows a lot of upside. Really good deal for Carolina. I wonder if they will buy bickell out. Or play him and try to trade him at the deadline with 50% salary retention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Jared Cowan is on waivers, I do not know much about him except what I have read but he is certainly big enough. No offensive threat but is he a stay at home type? Plus you actually get a credit for buying him out. Maybe MB should be taking a look at that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Jared Cowan is on waivers, I do not know much about him except what I have read but he is certainly big enough. No offensive threat but is he a stay at home type? Plus you actually get a credit for buying him out. Maybe MB should be taking a look at that? No, absolutely no use for him, as big and slow dosent cut it anymore and Habs don't need any more depth d-men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Jared Cowan is on waivers, I do not know much about him except what I have read but he is certainly big enough. No offensive threat but is he a stay at home type? Plus you actually get a credit for buying him out. Maybe MB should be taking a look at that? It's a cap credit this year of $650k and a cap hit of $750k the second year. (And $1.5 M of real money to get that.) I thought Chicago may have picked him up but today's trade frees up enough space that they shouldn't need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 No, absolutely no use for him, as big and slow dosent cut it anymore and Habs don't need any more depth d-men. Is he depth though or a guy, or a slow developer? He is only 25. Might prefer him to Emelin not really sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Is he depth though or a guy, or a slow developer? He is only 25. Might prefer him to Emelin not really sure. Low-end depth at best. I think there's a tidbit of potential left in him (perhaps he'd fare better in a different environment) but not enough to really consider pursuing him even in free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Bout same as Coyotes with Tinordi I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Blows my mind that Chicago trade. Never in a million years did I think the Blackhawks would make a trade on the level of Erat/Forsberg. Guess you can't predict stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Blows my mind that Chicago trade. Never in a million years did I think the Blackhawks would make a trade on the level of Erat/Forsberg. Guess you can't predict stupid. Forsberg and the Finn not same quality player and isn't 1st time Hawks traded a good looking youngster recently and they seem to keep doing fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Forsberg and the Finn not same quality player and isn't 1st time Hawks traded a good looking youngster recently and they seem to keep doing fine. Similar was said about Boston trading Kessel, Seguin, and Hamilton. They kept winning after moving young talent, so it can't be that big of a problem right? Saad and Teuvo is a huge chunk of their future and they have nobody in their system to replace them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Similar was said about Boston trading Kessel, Seguin, and Hamilton. They kept winning after moving young talent, so it can't be that big of a problem right? Saad and Teuvo is a huge chunk of their future and they have nobody in their system to replace them. Bowman looks at his 3 rings, has Toews-Kane-Keith etc and says "so what". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Bowman looks at his 3 rings, has Toews-Kane-Keith etc and says "so what". Only Hossa is older than 30 among their forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 Cam Ward signs a two year, $6.6 million extension with Carolina. R.J. Umberger will be waived today for buyout purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Cam Ward signs a two year, $6.6 million extension with Carolina. R.J. Umberger will be waived today for buyout purposes. I am surprised they resigned Ward, I figured for sure he was gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Similar was said about Boston trading Kessel, Seguin, and Hamilton. They kept winning after moving young talent, so it can't be that big of a problem right? Saad and Teuvo is a huge chunk of their future and they have nobody in their system to replace them. I think it's a deal they needed to make to get out of the Brickell deal, but this will look pretty stupid if they sign Shaw to a deal similar to the one that Brickell had. Personally, I'd have kept terovennan over shaw - I think he has more upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Might the Habs buy-out Desharnais? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 Might the Habs buy-out Desharnais? I don't think they will (but I didn't think they'd buy out Parenteau either). They should have enough money for one impact addition up front and the extra ~$2M they'd save on a buyout wouldn't be enough to add a second impact guy. All it would add is the ability to add a third line type of forward and if that's the case, they may as well just keep Desharnais who can handle that role again next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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