JoeLassister Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 My apologies if there was already a World Cup thread, couldn't find it (or missed it).So, some teams started to announce part of their lineup today.Team RussiaG Sergei Bobrovsky, Columbus Blue JacketsG Semyon Varlamov, Colorado AvalancheG Andrei Vasilevskiy, Tampa Bay LightningD Dmitry Kulikov, Florida PanthersD Andrei Markov, Montreal CanadiensD Dmitry Orlov, Washington CapitalsF Artem Anisimov, Chicago BlackhawksF Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red WingsF Nikita Kucherov, Tampa Bay LightningF Nikolay Kulemin, New York IslandersF Evgeny Kuznetsov, Washington CapitalsF Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh PenguinsF Vladislav Namestnikov, Tampa Bay LightningF Alex Ovechkin, Washington CapitalsF Artemi Panarin, Chicago BlackhawksF Vladimir Tarasenko, St. Louis BluesThis is some serious firepower !!! Gawd !Team FinlandG Tuukka Rask, Boston BruinsG Pekka Rinne, Nashville PredatorsD Esa Lindell, Texas Stars – Dallas Stars hold NHL RightsD Olli Maatta, Pittsburgh PenguinsD Rasmus Ristolainen, Buffalo SabresD Sami Vatanen, Anaheim DucksF Aleksander Barkov, Florida PanthersF Joonas Donskoi, San Jose SharksF Valtteri Filppula, Tampa Bay LightningF Mikael Granlund, Minnesota WildF Jussi Jokinen, Florida PanthersF Mikko Koivu, Minnesota WildF Leo Komarov, Toronto Maple LeafsF Lauri Korpikoski, Edmonton OilersF Jori Lehtera, St. Louis BluesF Teuvo Teravainen, Chicago BlackhawksThis is some weak firepower !!! Gawd!Team Czech RepublicG Petr Mrazek, Detroit Red WingsG Michal Neuvirth, Philadelphia FlyersG Ondrej Pavelec, Winnipeg JetsD Radko Gudas, Philadelphia FlyersD Michal Kempny, Avangard Omsk (KHL)D Roman Polak, San Jose SharksD Andrej Sustr, Tampa Bay LightningF Michael Frolik, Calgary FlamesF Martin Hanzal, Arizona CoyotesF Tomas Hertl, San Jose SharksF David Krejci, Boston BruinsF Ondrej Palat, Tampa Bay LightningF David Pastrnak, Boston BruinsF Tomas Plekanec, Montreal CanadiensF Vladimir Sobotka, Avangard OmskF Jakub Voracek, Philadelphia FlyersThis is some horrible defense !!! Gawd!Team SwedenHenrik Lundqvist, New York Rangers, GJacob Markstrom, Vancouver Canucks, GOliver Ekman-Larsson, Arizona Coyotes, DVictor Hedman, Tampa Bay Lightning, DNiklas Hjalmarsson, Chicago Blackhawks, DErik Karlsson, Ottawa Senators, DNiklas Kronwall, Detroit Red Wings, DAnton Stralman, Tampa Bay Lightning, DNicklas Backstrom, Washington Capitals, FLoui Eriksson, Boston Bruins, FFilip Forsberg, Nashville Predators, FGabriel Landeskog, Colorado Avalanche, FDaniel Sedin, Vancouver Canucks, FHenrik Sedin, Vancouver Canucks, FAlexander Steen, St. Louis Blues, FHenrik Zetterberg, Detroit Red Wings, FTeam EuropeG Frederik Andersen, Anaheim DucksG Jaroslav Halak, New York IslandersD Zdeno Chara, Boston BruinsD Roman Josi, Nashville PredatorsD Dennis Seidenberg, Boston BruinsD Andrej Sekera, Edmonton OilersD Mark Streit, Philadelphia FlyersF Mikkel Boedker, Colorado AvalancheF Leon Draisaitl, Edmonton OilersF Jannick Hansen, Vancouver CanucksF Marian Hossa, Chicago BlackhawksF Anze Kopitar, Los Angeles KingsF Frans Nielsen, New York IslandersF Tomas Tatar, Detroit Red WingsF Thomas Vanek, Minnesota WildF Mats Zuccarello, New York RangersTeam North AmericaG John Gibson, Anaheim DucksG Connor Hellebuyck, Manitoba Moose (AHL)G Matt Murray, Pittsburgh PenguinsD Aaron Ekblad, Florida PanthersD Seth Jones, Columbus Blue JacketsD Ryan Murray, Columbus Blue JacketsD Morgan Rielly, Toronto Maple LeafsF Sean Couturier, Philadelphia FlyersF Jack Eichel, Buffalo SabresF Johnny Gaudreau, Calgary FlamesF Dylan Larkin, Detroit Red WingsF Nathan MacKinnon, Colorado AvalancheF Connor McDavid, Edmonton OilersF J.T. Miller, New York RangersF Sean Monahan, Philadelphia FlyersJ.T. Miller and not Galchenyuk ?!?Team CanadaG Corey Crawford, Chicago BlackhawksG Braden Holtby, Washington CapitalsG Carey Price, Montreal CanadiensD Drew Doughty, Los Angeles KingsD Duncan Keith, Chicago BlackhawksD Marc-Edouard Vlasic, San Jose SharksD Shea Weber, Nashville PredatorsF Jamie Benn, Dallas StarsF Patrice Bergeron, Boston BruinsF Jeff Carter, Los Angeles KingsF Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh PenguinsF Ryan Getzlaf, Anaheim DucksF Tyler Seguin, Dallas StarsF Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay LightningF John Tavares, New York IslandersF Jonathan Toews, Chicago Blackhawks No Subban... "obviously"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Merci, Joe. I really can't get excited about this WC, which seems pretty bogus to me at this juncture. However, this attitude may change as the tournament draws near, I'll admit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 If Canada leaves off Subban (which is highly rumored) I hope they lose, so they realize they can't ignore talent. There is no way you can convince me that guys like Seabrook or Pieterangelo or even Weber are better than PK Subban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 If Canada leaves off Subban (which is highly rumored) I hope they lose, so they realize they can't ignore talent. There is no way you can convince me that guys like Seabrook or Pieterangelo or even Weber are better than PK Subban. Well, as you know, Pietrangelo is a much safer choice than Subban: Also I don't think there's a defenceman in this league with more videos on YouTube of players hitting him hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Added new lineups in the original post. Sweden and Europe.Canada, USA still to be announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Team North America? Who dreamt up this nonsense? Same guy who came up with 3 on 3 all star game I guys. I won't be bothered with it. Seems silly already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Subban gets no respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Hope no Habs play in this goofy $ grab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 If Canada leaves off Subban (which is highly rumored) I hope they lose, so they realize they can't ignore talent. There is no way you can convince me that guys like Seabrook or Pieterangelo or even Weber are better than PK Subban. He'll be on final roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 To be fair, the Habs are having a terrible year. No coach with every player in the league (of a nationality) at his fingertips is looking at the Habs right now and saying, "you know what, I want players from the Habs." The opposite of this effect is a guy like Brent Seabrook making these teams. Subban might not make the team, who cares? Maybe I'm an American without a horse in the race, but I wouldn't mind seeing all the Habs he cut from this freeze dried tournament. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Pacioretty makes Team USA. 4 Habs in total have been named. For me, the biggest surprise was Galchenyuk's omission. I didn't expect Subban to get named but I expected Galchenyuk to be on the preliminary 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 there is no good reason why an Elite player like Subban get left off this roster, none. He is already ahead of an aging Weber and Vlasic in my books, I have no idea what Canada's problem is with Subban, but the fact he isn't among their top 4 yet is considered a top 5 d-man in the league by most is mind boggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 To be fair, the Habs are having a terrible year. No coach with every player in the league (of a nationality) at his fingertips is looking at the Habs right now and saying, "you know what, I want players from the Habs." The opposite of this effect is a guy like Brent Seabrook making these teams. Subban might not make the team, who cares? Maybe I'm an American without a horse in the race, but I wouldn't mind seeing all the Habs he cut from this freeze dried tournament. Pacioretty makes it, Plekanec makes it, Markov makes it, Price makes it, Subban somehow makes people not want players from the Habs? Chuck and Subban missing is silly to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 there is no good reason why an Elite player like Subban get left off this roster, none. He is already ahead of an aging Weber and Vlasic in my books, I have no idea what Canada's problem is with Subban, but the fact he isn't among their top 4 yet is considered a top 5 d-man in the league by most is mind boggling. Mind boggling is an understatement... Subban is better than most of those guys in a tournament like this especially. Galchenyuk omitted is dumb as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 It's not just Subban with Team Canada. Choosing Vlasic over Burns is stupid too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 It's not just Subban with Team Canada. Choosing Vlasic over Burns is stupid too. Seems to be a pattern; low-risk and predictability trumps talent on a roster that's already brimming with talent. Maybe Galchenyuk will be motivated by the doubters? Or does he have this type of mentality at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Yeah! And Lars! Why isn't Eller on the grab bag team?!?!!?!?!? Outrageous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 as if Subban couldn't keep things simple on a defensive squad where he doesn't have to be the Catalyst night in and night out. That feeling of wanting to do too much would never be present when you look around on the bench and see Doughty, Keith, Weber, Seabrook and company. the guy is in the top 5 for Assists while on a team that can't score much, does anyone really think he wouldn't compliment the talent up front on this squad better than Vlasic and Weber? There would be no complex here, if Babcock sits him down and says he expects stable, efficient, and simple hockey in the defensive zone, Subban will not feel like he has to step outside the box to make something happen, everyone on this squad can make something happen. it just cracks me up really, every GM in this league would give a body part to have Subban on their team, but team Canada seems to think it is perfectly acceptable not to pick him on the roster immediately after Doughty? insane... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Subban's offensive metrics are better than all 4 D on the team but here's the kicker. HIS DEFENSIVE METRICS are also better than all 4 D on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Subban's offensive metrics are better than all 4 D on the team but here's the kicker. HIS DEFENSIVE METRICS are also better than all 4 D on the team. Always appreciate your statistical approach to things, but in this case, even from a strictly observational perspective, it is already obvious to me this is stupid, and that in my eyes, only Doughty should probably rank slightly higher as a choice, with Subban the clear and obvious second choice. Honestly I don't even know what to make of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 But he coughs up puck often making risky plays I guess is it? They likely also look at giveaways and of all the elite players (with many giveaways as are handling puck more...better BK?) Subban has been worst in NHL for 2nd year now. But there also are a handful of super d-men from Canada so might not take much to be on the outside and maybe Mgmt still sees Subban as a risky player? He would be on my team if I had to pick one; but, I hope he dosent make it and Price opts out also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Why is Doug Armstrong the GM? St Louis fans hate that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Why is Doug Armstrong the GM? St Louis fans hate that guy. I think that may be the biggest question right there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Subban's offensive metrics are better than all 4 D on the team but here's the kicker. HIS DEFENSIVE METRICS are also better than all 4 D on the team. It's absolutely insane. You really have to wonder what they're thinking...and how much of it has to do with that lingering, subliminal racism that (IMHO) has clung to Subban since his entry into the league. 'He's not the "right" kind of player...not "our" kind of player...' If he were white, would there be ANY doubt that he is among the very, very best defencemen in the game? Any doubt at all? I don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Subban gives money to charity off the ice, and has never had a single off-ice incident of any note. Ryan Getzlaf was out past curfew and got into a bar fight while representing team canada at the world championships. Drew Doughty was investigated (thought not charged) for sexual assault. Of course one is the liability and too selfish for team canada. The other two are good old canadian boys with the leadership and character we want. Its absolutely racism; subliminal yes, but there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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