DON Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 But still more likely swap of roster player(s) in trade before any UFA is signed by Habs, I would guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Williams to the Caps for 2 years. Nice grab. His playoff performance was likely the draw, but I'm not overly keen on using that as a determining factor -- "sample size too small." And even so, Williams has 30 goals and 78 points in 115 career playoff games. Over an 82 "playoff game" season, his playoff performance appears slightly higher than his regular season performance, as he's averaging 21 goals and 56 points in 82 playoff games. When compared to his 40-ish point regular seasons, and with less than 20 goals, sure, he has a slightly higher gear for the playoffs. It's still second-line performance. Is that worth 6.5 million a year for a cap hit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 His playoff performance was likely the draw, but I'm not overly keen on using that as a determining factor -- "sample size too small." And even so, Williams has 30 goals and 78 points in 115 career playoff games. Over an 82 "playoff game" season, his playoff performance appears slightly higher than his regular season performance, as he's averaging 21 goals and 56 points in 82 playoff games. When compared to his 40-ish point regular seasons, and with less than 20 goals, sure, he has a slightly higher gear for the playoffs. It's still second-line performance. Is that worth 6.5 million a year for a cap hit? He isnt getting 6.5/year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 His playoff performance was likely the draw, but I'm not overly keen on using that as a determining factor -- "sample size too small." And even so, Williams has 30 goals and 78 points in 115 career playoff games. Over an 82 "playoff game" season, his playoff performance appears slightly higher than his regular season performance, as he's averaging 21 goals and 56 points in 82 playoff games. When compared to his 40-ish point regular seasons, and with less than 20 goals, sure, he has a slightly higher gear for the playoffs. It's still second-line performance. Is that worth 6.5 million a year for a cap hit? 6,5M$ no, but 3,250M$ yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Anyone hear of possible trades/signings today? I'm thinking MB has something up his sleeve. I personally think it's a trade. Pleks, Tinordi and a 2016 first rounder for whom.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 That was a good pickup for Washington with Williams. His agent noted there was a team that offered more and there seems to be speculation that it was Montreal. Between that and the reports that they were in on Beleskey, clearly Bergevin thinks he has the money to make a signing of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 What would it take to get Kunitz from the pens? Emelin if we take 1M$ of his salary plus a mid pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Dreger: "The Montreal Canadiens were definitely in on Antoine Vermette." #Habs #Coyotes— Chris Nichols (@NicholsOnHockey) July 2, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Dreger: "The Montreal Canadiens were definitely in on Antoine Vermette." #Habs #Coyotes— Chris Nichols (@NicholsOnHockey) July 2, 2015 <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> HUH? Did he not just sign with the Coyotes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 HUH? Did he not just sign with the Coyotes? He did. The point being made is that the Habs were one of the other teams going after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habinator33 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Dreger: "The Montreal Canadiens were definitely in on Antoine Vermette." #Habs #Coyotes— Chris Nichols (@NicholsOnHockey) July 2, 2015 <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> So far sounds like we've been in on just about everyone and have lost out thus far on just about everyone. What would it take to get Kunitz from the pens? Emelin if we take 1M$ of his salary plus a mid pick? I honestly wouldn't want Kunitz he has 2 years left and his production is starting to drop fast. Sure he can be a good 3rd liner but he would come here like Briere and Parenteau expected to be in the top 6 and fail. Pens fans have been itching to get him out of the top 6 or off the team in Pittsburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 It's not a bad thing we've lost out on those players. Bergevin was probably making level headed offers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Martin St. Louis retires. I didn't see that coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Martin St. Louis retires. I didn't see that coming. He'll be Hall of Fame bound for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I honestly thought someone would sign him on a 1 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I think he had two teams that were left in the geographic that he was interested in and neither the Isles or devils are contenders. I honestly thought someone would sign him on a 1 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 There are rumblings that Johnny Oduya is waiting to see if Chicago can clear some cap space as he'd like to re-sign there. If that's the case, one would think the Hawks will have to make some sort of cap-clearing move in the next few days; they can't realistically expect Oduya to wait too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 There are rumblings that Johnny Oduya is waiting to see if Chicago can clear some cap space as he'd like to re-sign there. If that's the case, one would think the Hawks will have to make some sort of cap-clearing move in the next few days; they can't realistically expect Oduya to wait too long. They are going to give sharp to us for 5 7th round picks. Oughta work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 Joel Ward to San Jose, 3 years, $3.25 M per year. At 34 (35 in December), age is a concern but that's not a bad deal at least for the first couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Cant say am sad that he is off the market, maybe would of been a good fit, but old and slowing isn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Cant say am sad that he is off the market, maybe would of been a good fit, but old and slowing isn't he? Getting old but still gets it done. Unless we see a shocker, doubt the Habs sign anyone on free agency. Bud is as good as it gets. I just want another trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Will be another trade by Habs...happy! (got 8 NHL d-men, likely gotta trade one before the fall, especially with Barbarino just signed also) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 Shawn Matthias gets a one year, $2.3 M deal from Toronto. He had similar production to Eller last year; getting only that much on a contract probably doesn't mean good things for those who want to see Montreal trade Eller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Shawn Matthias gets a one year, $2.3 M deal from Toronto. He had similar production to Eller last year; getting only that much on a contract probably doesn't mean good things for those who want to see Montreal trade Eller. Much like St. Louis, we're stuck with our overpriced bottom six centre that has alleged top six potential. For them it's Berglund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Call me a homer but Eller has much more value than Mattias. Matthias had every opportunity to establish himself as a top 6 player in Florida. He was fortunate to get traded to Vancouver where they have zero depth behind Sedin. He was fortunate to score 18 goals. Imo he'll never surpass that total. I read a great article about Lars vs Plek. Opportunities & Off Vs Def zone starts and all that jazz. Points per minute yada yada. Anyhow, Eller was equal to Plek. This is something I see and believe. The article just confirmed what it was that I was seeing that people couldn't see or appreciate. Eller, imo, has been too restrained. He needs to be given 20 games in a top 6 role, allowed to make a few blunders, and shown confidence in. Given primary PP & secondary PK time. He would flourish and be responsible. I am fully confident and would never post another iota of opinion ever again should I be mistaken. I see him as a mini Jordan Staal. Watch for him to progress again next season with 40+ points in 3C capacity. DLR, DSP, Kassian, He'll have some quality wingers all season long. Anyhow. As I mentioned somewhere else. Time to bring in Jim Slater. 4th line C/LW PK stud. Quicker Prust minus the toughness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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