Machine of Loving Grace Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 The Winnipeg Jets have been... good in goal? That's the crazy thing about the start of the regular season. Crazy things happen. Like Pavelec posting a better save percentage than Carey Price and the Jets proving they don't need Budaj backing them up... so far. Future Habs Andrew Ladd and Blake Wheeler have 10 points each and Bogosian no longer looks like that young D you can throw in a deal and hope the Jets will bite. They look good... so far. As for Montreal, we're celebrating the departure of Rene Bourque with dancing, cakes and conspiracies that Michel Therrien and Marc Bergevin had a Moneyball confrontation about a crap player like Bourque. Because as we all know, Therrien can do no right and Bergevin can do no wrong (unless we draft someone you don't like. Then it's Timmins can do no wrong and Bergevin can do no right. Why is everything absolutes on the Internet!?) Habs lines during practice yesterday Galchenyuk -Plekanec - GallagherPacioretty - Desharnais - Parenteau Sekac - Eller - PrustBowman? - Malhotra - Weise Markov - Subban Emelin - Weaver Beaulieu - Gilbert Gonchar? Price Tokarski Atlanta Thrashers lines Ladd - Little - Frolik Kane - Scheiffle - Wheeler Perreault - Lowry - Byfuglien Galiardi - Slater - Thorburn Enstrom - Bogosian Stuart - Trouba Clitsome - Postma Pavelec Hutchinson Fun Stuff: - Winnipeg legend Dale Hawerchuk was originally the guy Montreal was going to trade Chris Chelios for. Instead the Canadiens trading Chelios (WITH A SECOND ROUND PICK) for Denis Savard while the Jets did a blockbuster deal with the Sabres. - Gallagher doesn't like the Jets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a46dTonXnSw - With the Jets doing well, all of the "Trade the best Jets for Habs garbage" trade proposals are gonna die out... until the trade deadline of course. - Pavelec is a great example of a terrible goalie (the worst in the NHL) on a hot streak. I'm sure Bob Essensa did this a time or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 At first I thought the lines had Plek centering Pac. I nearly shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I like the Jets but we need Maxi Pad and Subban to have breakout games. I hope we clobber'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Didn't know that about Hawerchuk. That obviously would have been a better trade than the Savard debacle, although still a bad deal in the long run. In fairness to Serge Savard, Denis Savard had been massively productive in Chicago immediately prior to the trade here (80 points in 60 games - prorates to a 109-point season), and had been comparably productive for years prior. Now, in retrospect we can see that Steve Larmer might have been absolutely crucial to a fair bit of Savard's success - after all, Larmer went on to a 44-goal, 101-point season after Savard left, while Savard's production immediately plummeted. Conversely, Savard may have simply hit his "best before" date in the summer when the Habs acquired him. Which amounts to fairly terrible luck. I've never been sure that it's fair to evaluate trades based on information that the GMs could not possibly have possessed at the time. All the evidence suggested Serge Savard was trading Chelios for a spectacular, 100-point centreman. Could he really have been expected to know that Savard was exactly at the point where he would plummet downward into a 59-point C? (A similar problem affects the condemnation of the Gomez deal: once MacDonagh became a top-2 defender, that would be a bad deal no matter how you slice it, BUT we should remember that Gainey was acquiring a 60-point C and one of the league's top puck-rushers and playmakers. There was simply no basis for predicting Gomer's precipitous decline into a marginal player within two years). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Time to go shoot some planes down. ACK ACK Sekach to the rescue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I guess Bowman will make his Montreal debut tonight after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 At first I thought the lines had Plek centering Pac. I nearly shit that was done for 5 games last season ............. sucked big time. pacs score zero in five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Didn't know that about Hawerchuk. That obviously would have been a better trade than the Savard debacle, although still a bad deal in the long run. In fairness to Serge Savard, Denis Savard had been massively productive in Chicago immediately prior to the trade here (80 points in 60 games - prorates to a 109-point season), and had been comparably productive for years prior. Now, in retrospect we can see that Steve Larmer might have been absolutely crucial to a fair bit of Savard's success - after all, Larmer went on to a 44-goal, 101-point season after Savard left, while Savard's production immediately plummeted. Conversely, Savard may have simply hit his "best before" date in the summer when the Habs acquired him. Which amounts to fairly terrible luck. I've never been sure that it's fair to evaluate trades based on information that the GMs could not possibly have possessed at the time. All the evidence suggested Serge Savard was trading Chelios for a spectacular, 100-point centreman. Could he really have been expected to know that Savard was exactly at the point where he would plummet downward into a 59-point C? (A similar problem affects the condemnation of the Gomez deal: once MacDonagh became a top-2 defender, that would be a bad deal no matter how you slice it, BUT we should remember that Gainey was acquiring a 60-point C and one of the league's top puck-rushers and playmakers. There was simply no basis for predicting Gomer's precipitous decline into a marginal player within two years). agreed. and in even more fairness to serge savard....... upon being let go serge said he will "I take full ownership of all my trades except the chelios deal. i was ordered to make that deal by his superiors". (corey) The Winnipeg Jets have been... good in goal? That's the crazy thing about the start of the regular season. Crazy things happen. Like Pavelec posting a better save percentage than Carey Price and the Jets proving they don't need Budaj backing them up... so far. Future Habs Andrew Ladd and Blake Wheeler have 10 points each and Bogosian no longer looks like that young D you can throw in a deal and hope the Jets will bite. They look good... so far. As for Montreal, we're celebrating the departure of Rene Bourque with dancing, cakes and conspiracies that Michel Therrien and Marc Bergevin had a Moneyball confrontation about a crap player like Bourque. Because as we all know, Therrien can do no right and Bergevin can do no wrong (unless we draft someone you don't like. Then it's Timmins can do no wrong and Bergevin can do no right. Why is everything absolutes on the Internet!?) Habs lines during practice yesterday Galchenyuk -Plekanec - Gallagher Pacioretty - Desharnais - Parenteau Sekac - Eller - Prust Bowman? - Malhotra - Weise Markov - Subban Emelin - Weaver Beaulieu - Gilbert Gonchar? Price Tokarski Atlanta Thrashers lines Ladd - Little - Frolik Kane - Scheiffle - Wheeler Perreault - Lowry - Byfuglien Galiardi - Slater - Thorburn Enstrom - Bogosian Stuart - Trouba Clitsome - Postma Pavelec Hutchinson Fun Stuff: - Winnipeg legend Dale Hawerchuk was originally the guy Montreal was going to trade Chris Chelios for. Instead the Canadiens trading Chelios (WITH A SECOND ROUND PICK) for Denis Savard while the Jets did a blockbuster deal with the Sabres. - Gallagher doesn't like the Jets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a46dTonXnSw - With the Jets doing well, all of the "Trade the best Jets for Habs garbage" trade proposals are gonna die out... until the trade deadline of course. - Pavelec is a great example of a terrible goalie (the worst in the NHL) on a hot streak. I'm sure Bob Essensa did this a time or two. did not know about the hawerchuck almost a hab either. thanks for the intell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Would be a reeeeeally good time for Beaulieu to score his first as a Habs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Would be a reeeeeally good time for Beaulieu to score his first as a Habs. given that Sekac was benched after scoring, i really don't think it would matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Random note for those with Centre Ice in Canada - it's a rare game where both the Montreal and the opposition feeds are available. The only other time this will likely happen this season is when they play Ottawa on a day where it's not nationally televised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Goddamn ######ing Rogers. If they didn't invent bad service, they perfected it. No luck for Habbies in Alberta. I can't watch two Canadian teams play but if I want to watch the Rangers and Pens - no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Goddamn ######ing Rogers. If they didn't invent bad service, they perfected it. No luck for Habbies in Alberta. I can't watch two Canadian teams play but if I want to watch the Rangers and Pens - no problem. yep, only option is listen to TSN radio or shell out $200 for centre ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Goddamn ######ing Rogers. If they didn't invent bad service, they perfected it. No luck for Habbies in Alberta. I can't watch two Canadian teams play but if I want to watch the Rangers and Pens - no problem. they are on NHL on the fly right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 DD cant buy a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 DD cant buy a goal.There's a split second hesitation every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Much better start, even if it is still a scoreless game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 2nd time tonight I heard the bonehead SNE announcer mention the Bourque trade. Is this on RDS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Zzzzzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 DD cant buy a goal. DD must be nervous given MB's little hesitation to dice and slice the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 GONG Time for the next power play unit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Second half of that period was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 There's a split second hesitation every time yes you are right GONG Time for the next power play unit Second half of that period was awful. yes, sadly it is not uncommon for this years team......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Jets PK is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 is official , the powerplay for the 2014/15 habs is the worst this fan has ever witnessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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