That's why I said shuffle at will

I'm not the best at putting lines together. That's Carbo's job.

Shouldn't Dumont be a 2nd or 3rd line player?

I haven't followed his career much, but that's what I know him as...

I don't like the idea.

Pittsburgh has Malkin and Crosby and along with Ovechkin they will be the most entertaining combo in the NHL since... Ever!

I think Mario realize that his team is in the building a dynasty-team and the only thing that can stop him from doing it is cap space and they russian hockey federation.

I also don't think it's a good idea to change too much. Remeber what the Canes coach said after the series versus the Habs? Who knows? If Saku didn't get that eye injury it might have been the Canadiens who had lifted the cup.

And finaly if I had Crosby on my team I would make him centre the first line.

Samsonov-Crosby-Dumont
Higgins-Koivu-Perezhogin
Plekanec-Ribeiro-Johnson
Murray-Begin-Kostitsyn

FYI, here is what "Code" has said about the Habs during todays public chat.



The Islanders do want Komisarek but Bob refuses to trade him.

The Habs are still trying to sign Dumont and plan on doing so...They will then trade Bonk. They are still trying to land Briere...but they would rather sign Dumont. Apparently it is all up to Bob to make Dumont a habs.

Marleau is almost certain to be traded but he did not say where...but said Edmonton and Columbus are now in the mix. Montreal inquired but have not made an offer. SJ wants a young roster player and 2 prospects.


Shockers:

The Devils are believed to be shopping Brodeur!

T. Ruutu is on the block

thats a great adding to that wounderfull thread

now get me that ruutu guy

I think it would be smart to shop Brodeur. He is still worth something but honestly,he is also sliding down the hill most here and probably Brodeur himself would deny. To free up cap space Lou needs to do something with Mogilny, man that situation sucks.

All you guys here complain about Bonk, things could be worse. At least Bonk leaves some hope in the future.

Let's trade Bonk and for Mogilny and Brodeur.

So what exactly is Bob waiting for to sign Dumont if Bonk would be traded after. Pull a Lou ....sign, sign, sign and figure it out later. I love the CAP it keeps things very interesting.

1. Briere or Dumont would be great.
2. Marleau would be super great.
3. Why would Lou trade a guy who took a paycut just to help out the team.
4. GET HIM NOW BOB!!!!!!!!

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I don't like the idea.

Pittsburgh has Malkin and Crosby and along with Ovechkin they will be the most entertaining combo in the NHL since... Ever!

I think Mario realize that his team is in the building a dynasty-team and the only thing that can stop him from doing it is cap space and they russian hockey federation.

See now that's the great thing about the cap. As mario's team gets closer and closer to being a dynasty it will be torn apart. Fleury, Malkin, Crosby, Staal, that bone head kid who plays with Crosby, they are all going to demand huge cash just around dynasty time. Not to even mention the supporting cast.But then again the cap will probably be 80 million by then.

I don't think there will be harder to create a dynasty team in the future.

The NHL and the clubs are still adapting.

I am beginning to wonder if BG is going to sign Dumont. Hearing all these rumours floating around makes one think that maybe there is some truth to it. As far as Marleau and Briere goes, I think that is just wishful thinking, because they would really upset the chemistry of the team with what you would have to give up to get them.
One thing I can't understand is, why would Washington take on Bonk's $2+million salary when they could go after someone like Dumont or Carter for the same amount of money. It just doesn't make any sense to me. For them to say, "Oh okay Bob we'll take your overpaid underachiever to relieve some of your cap space so you can improve your team."
Can anyone explain the logic of them taking on Bonk.

The only logic would be if guys like Carter or Dumont were only willing to look at multi-year deals but Washington felt they weren't worth multi-year deals. Since Bonk is going into his last year, his salary would help them reach the floor this season but would leave them with the flexibility to sign bigger free agents next summer. Not saying this is the case, but it is one explanation...

Yep, you're right, that could be the reason, but I just can't believe they would take on that salary, even if it was just for a year....but who knows, stranger things have happened.

i was under the impression that if one includes bonuses, the caps are above the floor.

TSN just reported that the Habs have not contacted Dumont.

True...but check out Eklunds article today. Could it be that the agent is trying to stir the pot...why didn't he say other teams did not offer a contract?



http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=2670

I have to say, usually I take what Eklund says with a grain of salt, but that was a very good argument and it gives me a feeling of hope again.

I've been thinking all along that BG does not want it known that he has a deal with Dumont because then teams will offer less in whatever deal he is trying to make.

By making the trade first, there is nothing to say that he needs to make room.

Besides hasn't Dumont's deadline passed like 3 days ago. Coincidence?

This just in.............

From another site:"according to hockey-leaks.blogspot.com the habs redwings and flyers will complete a trade on monday augst 28th that will be sending to the habs gangen to detroit rj umberger, niko dimitrakos and mike riberio and to phily sheldon souray josh langfeld and a habs 2nd round pick

and he also has sources that jp dumont will probably land in a habs jersey this year"

This is a direct quote....spelling mistakes and all....

I can't wait to see that gangen guy

Not even worth typing. The guy sounds like he may be a little retarted. FOR REAL., but smart enough to mess with people on line.

Maybe he was so excited he forgot to edit

What a solid rumor.

Philly gives up Gagne, Dimitrakos and Umberger for...

Sourray, Langfeld and a 2nd round pick. RIIIIGHT!!!!

Again, just because I like to talk about speculation, I obviously would love to see this deal happen. Gagne coming to Montreal would be a move that makes us legitimate Cup contenders, and giving up Souray and a second round pick is way too reasonable. It will never happen, but I would obviously be all for it.

again, i do not see how we deal from out D-core to get offensive help.

and what exactly does the redwings have to give ??

gotta love the fact that langfed played in boston last year and does not appear on the detroit roster


thats exactly what this thread is all about

Have there been any rumors about Aebischer being dealt? If he's not, and we want Danis to play for the dogs, would he have to clear waivers? If so, how likely do you think it'd be that we carry 3 goalies into the start of the season until one of them is dealt?

That is a great question about Danis...I am not sure if he has to clear waivers. I suspect he does not or the rumour mill would be churning for either him of Aebi being traded. Regardless, I am sure one of them will be during the season as the Bulldogs have 3 goaltenders already.

As for Aebi rumours...the last I read was Columbus was interested. Detroit was also rumoured before they signed Hasek.

Zherdev is reported being on the trade block.

Wouldnt matter, we cant sign Dumont for 2.something then we sure as hell cant sign Zherdev for whatever he wants.

the difference here is that it would take roster players(and salary) to get Zherdev...so they probably would be able to sign him.

Zherdev would make less than Dumont. Possibly as low as half as much. The problem would be that we have to trade for him and that Zherdev is currently threatening to play in Europe. In other words, he's a gamble.

Apparently he's looking for between 1 and 2 million.

What WHAT WoT????

zheredev whats more then a million maybe a lil more then 2 but problem is he wants a long term contract, does gainey want to give that to someone who hasnt proved it yet? i doubt it. All this is coming if Zherdev comes to montreal lol.

Daze to Montreal?

Rumors that RDS showed him skating at a local rink with some pro players.

He's a UFA too.

Since he's got a massive injury-problem, he'd be a cheap sign. Insurance wouldn't be cheap, but if it was just the Chicago bug that gets him, Montreal could be the home of his coming-out party. (To play, of course, not the ... oh, shut up)

Daze-Koivu-Ryder (SFS)
Samsonov-Ribeiro-Kovalev (FSF)

S = Slow
F = Fast

I like it

Zherdev has scored 27 goals in his 2nd NHL season, this guy is a bluechip prospect with tons of skills. He has surely proved it that he can play in the NHL and that he deserves a long-term contract.



A fast playmaking center with two slow wingers??? How can you like such a combo???

The Zherdev trade is a possibility. Columbus is apparently asking for a very good prospect and a 1st round pick. As long as Zherdev and Montreal could come to terms before a trade, I'd consider Andrei Kostitsyn (drafted the same year as Zherdev but not as developed yet) and Montreals first round pick next year for Zherdev. Maybe throw in a lower round draft pick as well)

May also be necessary to dump Radek Bonk as well, but as it gets closer to the regular season, that shouldn't be a problem as other teams will know their needs better, and Bonk could very well have an excellent preseason and increase his value

Well then why would the GM not give him a long term contract. I can't say for sure but possibly he is terrible on defense and can make more goals pass him then he scores. I do know hes a threat but only his second year he should get more then 1.85 i don't find, Also with the attitude hes showing how many GM's would want that on their team lol...ITS WORSE THEN RYDER

Emelin to join the habs this year? http://www.habsinfo.blogspot.com/

I have never seen this blog before but most of the reports are very logical and seem likely. Interesting.

Zherdev already signed a contract with a Russian team and it seems like he's getting way more than the Jackets are offering him.



I mean, only a bit over $1.1 million for such a talent - I'd say that the Jackets don't really know which jewel they've. I'd love to sign such a guy for $1.85 or nearly $2 million a year.

Damn, does Bob know this?

I'd take Daze in a heartbeat. Sure, he has been a bit injury prone lately, but that can also be a good thing. With his history, he cant get a huge salary, and he would be eligable for a performance contract, which would be perfect. Produce, get paid a lot, dont produce, dont make tonnes.

Daze is HT: 6-6 WT: 235 so he'd be 1 of the largest Habs, and he can play either Wing.

btw: how is Daze a rumor? or is it a rumor that he's a UFA?

do they ever!!!
Man to see Emelin in a Habs jersey this comming year would be the SHIZZZZZZZZLLLLLLLLLLE!!!!

He has an option on that Russian contract to annull it if he gets an enticing offer to play in the NHL.

I'm intrigued.

I believe it's his being in Montreal playing shinny with some Habs that's the rumor.

I'd be happy to take him, but not for much.

And if the Gagne has any truth to it, I'd forget about him.

Not that it does, but we'll find out soon (Word is Monday 28/th August is the deadline)

What is to happen today? What is the nature of this deadline? Little help?

This is my first posting on HW. I haven't heard much lately about Columbus trading Nikolai Zherdev, but I think he would be a great addition to Montreal . There had been a story that Toronto had offered Stajan and a draft choice for Zheredev, but on the Blue Jackets site their GM/President Doug McLean denied it. I read that Columbus was talking to an eastern team about a trade if they can't sign him. Do you think BG would pull the trigger on a deal for him. We'd probably have to give up a young guy and a draft pick or two good young guys.

I don't think that gainey likes high risk/high reward kind of players..I think he'd rather go for consistency and less bling bling.

I like that zherdev but he seems like a little trouble maker...don't need that for now

Zherdev wants triple what Columbus is offering in a one year deal, or about 2 million a year on a long term deal. Doug MacLean knows exactly what kind of talent he is dealing with, but at this points, both sides are trying to pressure each other. Zherdev's side is banking on MacLean not wanting to lose him for the year. MacLean thinks it is a bluff and is calling it for the time being. I'd bet quite a lot of money that one side will fold and Zherdev will be in a Jacket's uniform this season.