Ok, I am not the best at reading french and google makes a mess of it (maybe someone else could clarify) but "sly" at:

http://montrealhabstrade.blogspot.com/

has these rumours. Please take with a grain of salt. These are all over the board.


The Habs are concerned about Koivu and are desperately trying to secure a replacement. They are anxious to see how Grabovsky makes out and if he is capable of playing in the NHL this year. He could centre Kovalev and Samsonov with Ribs between Ryder and Higgins. If Grabovsky and Koivu do not pan out then worst case scenario is having Kovavlev turning to centre between Samsonov and Perezhogin/Latendresse.


Gainey is really working the phones and has made offers to SJ and Toronto!

Gainey has offered Souray, Ryder, Plekanec & Kostitsyn for Marleau and Bell. If accepted, then Gainey also signs Leetch.

Gainey has also offered Toronto (this one blows my mind)...Rivet, Ryder, Huet and Chipchura for Sundin and a 2nd round pick.


The Habs have also made offers to Philadelphia for Gagne but Gainey prefers a centre. the rumoured offers to Philly are:

Montreal has offered Souray, Ryder and Chipchura for Gagne and a 2nd round pick.
Philly wants Ryder + Perezhogin or Emelin + Higgins for Gagne. ( not sure this is accurate translation) or Markov, Ryder and Price for Gagne and Pitkanen.

yeah nasty... I'd just burn that bookmark. You'd need to take lot's wife with that site.

Rather see Daze come in with no trade, if he holds together for a month or 2 Koivu may be healthy.

This brings up my bitching for the day....
How the hell is Williams off the hook for this? Why was it not reviewed by the league? I know this will bring some grumbles from pacifists out there, but I really hope somebody lays this bum out big time. Ever since the Beruzzi/Moore incident this has been considered taboo, but an eye for an eye anyone? If the league wont do anything somebody has to. They brought in these new rules trying to stop this from happening, but it happened, was over looked and needs to be addressed. I understand Gainey calling for restraint in the playoffs, but the first match with Carolina this season better see somebody man up and straighten this punk out.

lol, good idea...I have already burned a couple...this one was good until this post.

here is another one for you.


A proposal has been made between the 3 teams. Gainey has approved the trade. So have the Nucks. Waiting on word from Lou of this is going down...

Montreal would get... Ryan Kesler, Sami Salo, Ivan Khomutov

Vancouver would get Brian Gionta, Sheldon Souray, Alex Mogilny

Jersey gets Michael Grabner, Juraj Mikus, Maxim Lapierre.

Vancouver would have to follow this by making deals to get under the cap. Jersey gets 2 good prospects and Lapierre who would crack their line-up this year. Montreal gets a good centreman, a good defenceman, and a prospect. This is a DONE DEAL if Lou says yes.

I dont like any of these rumours. Especially any that involve Plex or trading D to get D.(Particularily because i dont know how good Salo is)

Salo is a great d-man IMO. Logs 24 min/game and is good for 30-40 pts a year.

Interesting about the Vancouver and New Jersey rumour since Ek picked up a possible move involving NJ as well. However, he cites the 3rd team as non-Canadian. This might just have some teeth to it.

I still dont like rumours involving Souray. Id take the Gagne Pitkanen trade in a heartbeat if we could sub Rivet and 2nd or sumthing instead of Markov.

Eklund added a bit to the Habs Devils rumour today:


"Trade rumors continue to swirl around the Devils and Habs. One source said it this way, "The word is that Carbs feels the team needs a face, and a leadership core. There is a feeling that Gionta could be a part of that, and the Devils may also be intersted in Aebischer."

Why in the bluest of blazes would Aebischer be interested in going to NJ to get even less games behind Brodeur

He has no say in the matter. He very likely would hate going to NJ, but there's nothing he can do about it if he were traded there.

these trades are ridiculous. Sure, we need a center and possibly some more "grit" but why get rid of the youngsters? Trade the Rib and his salary and bring in a hungry young guy who's willing to go in the corners!

True.

My question would be why would NJ want Aebischer when they have Brodeur? And surely Montreal could get more for him by peddling him to a team that needs a proven starting goalie, and not just a solid backup.

Seems to be a busy day on the rumour front...here is the latest from Code (involving the Habs)


1) The Habs have had interested in Gomez for a long time, but they are going after Briere and Marleau.

They also have Lang as their back-up plan.

2) The Habs are in talks with a few teams. I posted above the following players they are looking at. All the other stuff, that's just other "bloggers" just making stuff up to get Habs fans to come visit their site.

It's extremely hard to get anything from the Habs front office. I did recently get a really great Habs source who is really close to the front office, so when I read the stuff reported, and asked about it, the person just laughs it off as an (e1).

3) It does. Remember, the Canucks aren't the only team after Gagne. Even though they are the frontrunners for Gagne, being that the Flyers would like to land Naslund, the Habs are interested in him and so are the Caps.

4) With the Habs, they come out of nowhere and land big time players, so I'm not going to put percents on it. I'll say this though. They have as good as chance as any of the other teams looking to land them.

5) *Surprise with regards to the 3-way trade rumour involving the Habs/Devils/Canucks..."No truth to this rumor. Someone felt like playing fantasy hockey and posted it."

6) They Devils rather trade off Gionta than keep Gomez. Just remember that. Are the Habs interested. Of course, just like the rest of the teams out there. But they aren't going after him.

7) Regarding the fact that Gainey and Carb said they would not make any changes..."The Habs aren't going to tell anyone what they are doing. Just like every other GM, they'll give you the default answer to your questions."

8) Buffalo wants a lot for Briere. They want a package in the likes of what the Oilers got for Pronger. The Sabres always pull this move. The Sharks want a top 2 defensemen in return for Marleau. Lou just wants young NHL ready players who don't cost a lot.

9) The Caps are interested in Bonk, so it wouldn't be hard to dump him if the Habs land a top center.

I will edit post if anything else comes up.

I couldn't agree with you more! And then when he highsticked Markov??? If I don't see Begin, Murray, Komisarek, and Souray going after this guy, I think I'm gonna lose it again!




Now all we need to do is get Mike Milbury hired as GM of a team that possesses that young hungry forward....

Alright well this stuff about Koivu retiring cuz of that vision stuff..umm he still has 2 eyes...Berard plays with one..why would periferal vision in one eye effect his game that much..HE STILL HAS THE OTHER lol

Totally different situations. Berard's game is all about his shot on the PP. He has always been an average defender with a great shot. That's what he's always been.

Saku Koivu's game relies solely on his vision. He is a playmaker. He has to be able to see the whole ice in order for him to be successful. You can't play center in the NHL if you can only see your right wing and not your left wing (Might be the other way around, don't remember off-hand which eye was injured). If Koivu does not regain his peripheral vision, he will either have to become a winger or retire. A center with one eye is no good to anybody.

Well it should heal no?

Eyes are delicate organs. There's no way to know 100% if it will heal completely.

Wooley a Canadien???

From La Presse.

Wooley to Habs?

Possible signing news. See previous post.

interesting, either Gainey has no faith in Streit and Cote or someone is on their way out. Woolley could be a back plan if the Habs lose more than Bouillion to injury as well.

I like to Wooley idea. He's a vet and will bring experience even if he is only a fill in signing.

PS. This could be a sign of a D being moved in the future...maybe.

Spector has mentioned it as well, but as a possible interest rather than a signing.

http://spectorshockey.tripod.com/spectors_trade_rumours.html

Yep, no doubt many won't like the idea. Vis-a-vis; Streit, Cote and O'Byrne but if Gainey is going ot pull another Todd Simpson depth D at the deadline, why not get Wooley now. That is, if this is true.

Maybe someone's just pulling the wool over our eyes?

That's it! You're on time out, mister.

Wooley would be a nice addition at a minimal price.......

A mammoth addition?

seriously, go stand in the corner.

NHL depth dman and possible AHL guy is what this looks like.

From Code:

Source: Marleau Talks Heating Up.
A source close to ITC is reporting that talks for Sharks Forward Patrick Marleau are really heating up. As reported by ITC a few weeks back, the Sharks are listening to offers for Marleau.

There's also been chatter that Marleau would like to get traded. Teams that are looking to bring in Marleau are the Oilers, Habs, and Wings.

ITC has also been told that the Sharks would like a package back, as to the one the Oilers received for Chris Pronger.

ITC will be getting into more details about this topic on SportsNations.com

Let me also mention that the Blues are also involved, but wouldn't receive Marleau, but would be part of a three way trade.

I'll be in the Insider Forum talking about this on SportsNations.com.

I'll also hold a chat at 3:30pm, so come join in.

Code

P.S.- On the Habs. The Habs are talking to Wooley's agent, but a source close to ITC reports that Wooley is only a back-up plan. The Habs tried to grab Stuart from the Bruins but were rejected. They are also interested in Rangers defensemen Michael Roszival, as are the Oilers.

The Oilers are also interested in Stuart.


from the chat:


1) The Habs made an offer yesterday for Marleau...the Blues are trying to get involved in a three way, but I have no idea who would go to the Blues. I know that the Blues would send Jackman to the Sharks. The Habs would receive Marleau, but I don';t have a damn clue who the Blues would get back.

2) I think Gainey knows he's going to have to give up a lot for Briere, so he's turned his focus over to the Devils and the Sharks.
Gainey likes Gomez, and has made offers for him, but the Devils want Higgins in the deal. That about says it all.

This actually seems possible (even without knowing who the habs is).

Hmmm Higgins for Gionta... that's a lot to give.

Rds.ca cites 'La Presse' (a Montreal newspaper) that negotiations are ongoing between the Canadiens & defenseman Jason Wooley.

Woolley is an experienced defenseman with offensive qualities. He's 37 years old and, last year with Detroit, he accumulated 19 points in 53 games.
He's supposed to come in to help with the absence of Bouillon.

Here's the rds.ca site: http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/212401.html

Here's the tsn.ca site with info on him: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?i...amp;hubname=nhl
As to weaknesses, it essentially says that he's easy to push over and is an inconsistent player.

Umm Higgins for Gionta well

Higgins= 23 goals (maybe more)
gionta= 50 goals...

its hard also Higgins has done great to early to decide.

Bob is fantastic. You win championships with the little things. Ask Bowman. He knows!

At worst you have low money for a seasoned veteran. As a coach you can utilize him into the right situation. He can rush the puck, is reliable on power plays and he is a veteran. There's alot of rookies around Montreal these days . Woolley might bring a little mustard to the hailed room

With Bouillon out this would be a great acquisition IMO. There is more challenge in the D and we don't have to worry about bringing in a depth D at the deadline. Woolley would be there. Our D prospects really need more time except for Cote. And, do we really want to rush O'Byrne in to a save the team at the outset of the season? That's pressure. Also, Streit is not 100%.

That's why WE TRUST IN BOB

Gainey is willing to spend probably around $750 K for the difference between having 55% of the points versus 65% of the points over the long haul. Keep it simple.

Bob wants POINTS

According to RDS.CA,
la presse says that the habs might be in negotiations with Jason Wolley

I think this is really good,

due to his age, it would only be a one year deal

he can definitely do some good on the powerplay, and is a good 6th guy to have around while Bouillon is hurt

He should also come pretty cheap


of course, this is a habs rumour so it's probably bull-sqwat

Shortcat1 beat you to this one.....

Gionta? Wooley? Shanahan? Dumont?

Beat who from what rumor.


This thread sucks!!!!!!

Thanks Fanpuck

This thread was a consensus move...

Thank the whole mod team.

According to the Habsinfo.blogspot guy BG turned down an offer of Gomez for Plex, Perezhogin and a pick. Also that Carbo wants Chipchura on the team this year if Saku is out for any length of time. Id counter with Perezhogin, Ribeiro and pick for Gomez.

Not sure if you noticed the high level of activity on this thread, but apparently you're almost alone in your opinion...

Habber isn't alone by a long shot. The high level of activity is obviously attributable to forcing all rumours onto one thread... and that folks like to talk about rumours.

If you don't like it, why do you open it?

Some people have to bitch about something everyday.

Because I like to read/discuss rumours, too. The statement being made was about forcing all rumours onto one thread.

The reason given for this was that this isn't a rumour site, etc. If someone can explain to me the harm in having a HOCKEY site with more than 1 thread about HOCKEY rumours, when there are threads about nothing, a couple threads about 9/11, threads about Quebec politics, auto accidents, the status of Pluto, and whatever else anyone can think of talking about... please do.

If that's bitching, well give me a slap and call me a bitch.

By the way, I fully respect the mods rights to set the rules here, and will abide by them. I also appreciate their willingness, however reluctantly given, to withstand some constructive criticism of those rules.

Yeah wheres all the rumours at anyway??? Its been like FIVE DAYS since weve heard anything.