I'm sorry, I'm too busy laughing at the seriousness of people thinking Souray-Naslund trade will happen

With Morrison's struggles, it would take more for Van to get Souray than just Morrison, IMO.

One thing is for sure ...
Bob has options ...

Too many dmen, too many wingers, too many goalies, lots a young potential and missing some game breaking talent especially at center.

I'd be surprise if we finish the year with the same personnel ...

I'm glad someone said it.

More then Souray for Morrison? Try Morrison and Kesler or a top pick for Souray.


Canucks fans are getting to be like Leaf fans thinking thier players are worth waaay more then they are.

Exactly, the habs for the first time in many years will be ablw to make trades and younger more skilled players taking roster spots. I also agree about the roster looking different, i think it will be younger, more mobile on the D.

Souray is UNRESTRICTED, he is not worth Morrison and another player.

I don't think Souray is worth a boatload more than Morrison (not a high pick), but I wouldn't have done that trade straight up. He's got 1 year left after this season, so he'll be unrestricted next summer. Which is a good thing. He's 31 now and has a $3M+ /yr contract. and woo...I wouldn't want Kesler with the contract he's got now. Damn Clarke. Hehe.

Morrison sucks anyway.

I second that !!

TFP: report from Ottawa Sun / Habs searching for center

TheFourthPeriod.com

Janne Niinimaa & Sheldon Souray mentioned

It's believed he'll likely include a defenseman as part of a package. Whether Niinimaa is involved or not remains to be seen.

You shouldn't have said that.....

He's overpaid and struggling.... fine. However, the guy has always been solid defensively and a good playmaker and elevates his play come playoff time. Most notably back in 04 against the Flames where he was our top forward. He stepped up big time with Bertuzzi out and he showed what he's really capable of doing. The guy has been clutch for us as well numerous times. Last year he played through an injury for most of the season and no one knew until after the season was over. He didn't complain once.

Yea, Morrison is struggling, but his linemates are Bulis and Pyatt(and you all know about Bulis already ). He isn't the only one however. The whole team has been struggling as well.

You can carry on with your rumors now.

That's enough to put anyone off their game.

www.spectorshockey.net --- under trade rumours

Vancouver radio stations report that Vancouver GM Dave Nonis has offered Montreal the following trade:

To Vancouver: Souray and a 2nd or 3rd line winger
To Montreal: Salo and Morrison

No way this happens - why would we give up our goal scoring machine defenceman for another unrestricted free agent and an under achieving centre who will play under the Mtl microscope?

my gosh .... that offer is worth putting into my pick on Nonis thread... geeeessshhhhhh

Hey CS, what's the news? Where've ya been?

Good to see you back unless I just never noticed you lately

Eklund had this to add to the Canuck rumour. I bet his 2 contacts were the 2 radio stations discussing the rumours

"The Canucks may be looking to move Salo, and Morrison as package, according to a source (e2). There has been speculation that the deal may be to Montreal for Souray +, but I am hearing that the Canucks are discussing a completely different deal with Montreal involving Naslund. My source says that Salo and Morrison have been discussed with a few "eastern conference, non-canadian teams.""

The Canucks need more scoring from their forwards, thus trading a struggling Morrison for a defenseman makes no sense.

If this trade were made, and I don't believe it would happen for a second, it would be a bad trade for Montreal. First, you've already got a glut of forwards anyway, so adding Morrison to the mix does nothing to improve the situation. If the Canucks were willing to take Samsonov, then it might make sense but than that's just trading one problem for another. And second, I don't think it's wise to trade one pending free agent for another pending free agent, unless you can get Salo's name on a contract first. There would have to be conditional picks going both ways if the UFAs re-sign with their new teams.

The only way this deal has a chance to get done is if Nonis and Gainey are given permission to negotiate new contracts with the players they are getting back, say 30 days.

trade rumours don't really move me a whole lot... that's what they usually end up always being - rumours... rumours that only tickle the ear & imagination...

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I would take Morrisson one on one for Samsonov anyday. :)

Samsonov's not as bad as he seems. He's actually talented, but right now he just looks like a mini and lesser talented version of Kovalev.

I agree about Samsonov, the question is once Higgins is back what is going to happen. Lats deserves to stay in the top 6. Now is the time trim some fat off the roster and get a quality #2 centerman. The Habs have enough depth to move a top 6 forward and a D to get the centerman they need.

Possibility of Fedorov coming to Habsland ? ... would be an interesting 2nd line. But what goes back the other way ?

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/mtl061217.html

This story is crap, federov has a 6 mil cap hit next season, should teh Habs get him and not be able to get rid of him after the playoffs, good luck signing even one of Markov or Souray.

what the heck would he cost per year? a mere 6.1 million... no thanks at all!!!!!


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How bout claiming Ozolinsh off waivers from the Rags?

He is not what he used to be but with our depth he would be a good PP specialist and maybe free up the team to move one of the three pending UFA's on D for a trade to get a true 1st/2nd line centre.

He's not good enough to crack the Rags lineup, I don't see where he would fit in here.

For the record...the Fedorov rumour was also posted on ESPN and TSN. While Garrioch is way off on his Bonk "source" he may be bang on about Fedorov. Obviously the salary is crazy. Of course there is only about 4 million left on it this season and if we can convince the Bluejackets to take Niinimaa with the deal then the cap room may be there.

He might be too drunk

that rumour started on a stupid website, and then gariosh took it and then ESPN, TSN...

I just don't see how we could have trade talks right now, our GM is probably ot back and I don't think that gauthier has the power to do so. anyhow, if he did, he'd lose his job.

I don't recall hearing this happening after Gainey left the team. Perhaps before he left...regardless it is just a rumour.

trade freeze til past new years.

I believe it's between dec 19 to 27th

I heard it was between like the 18th and the 2nd or something.

Didn't Gautier do a trade already in getting a a guy named Biron or something. A 6'6" D- man?? Like the day after he "took over"?

That was a depth move... and a good one at that anyways.

Also, it was the kind of move that couldn't really wait past Christmas - half of it was to get Traverse back to his family in Massachusetts and stop his turkey dinner from being extremely morose.

Thanks guys I wasn't sure if I was hearing things or not, but that was nice of the org. to get Traverse back close to his Famely, A real NICE X-MAS prezzy

Ok guys, here is the last (and 1st) 2006 edition of the "AlexKlund" report:

Defense

Fact:
Habs will keep Souray and Markov until after the deadline for SURE they are key to our success and to a successful cup run. No matter what their status is, they won't be traded.

Assumptions:
Souray will leave as a UFA @ 6.5M to L.A. or another southwestern destination.
Markov will sign a MAJOR deal with us, something like 5 years 25M.
Rivet will either sign for cheap before the deadline, be traded at the deadline or walk away... If we don't sign him before July 1st, he's gone, his value on the market is beyond his value to us.

AlexKlund made up rumours:
However, a guy like Craig Rivet might be shot in the other direction in a cap saving move if the guy coming our way is, say, Adrian Aucoin (Sheldon Souray's clone, but with a CONTRACT)
Why this is good for us: we replace Souray on the mid-long term with Aucoin, a very similar player who won't be as expensive as Souray (who will want McCabbe's number -> 6.5M or more), we make room for Aucoin by moving Rivet, a very solid guy, yes, but easily replaced this season by Aucoin and next season by whoever (O'Byrne?)
Why this is good for Chicago: They will be out of playoffs, again, they will be tired of paying Aucoin's 4M, they will have 1st shot at Rivet and will certainly retain him at a lower price than Aucoin and get a very similar locker room effect (leadership/experience).

Forward

Fact:
BG is not displeased with our younglings, but fact is we have far too many of them... and some are pretty similar. Perezhogin could easily be replaced by Lapierre, with maybe a better result. Same for Plekanec.
Ryder has a high trade value...


Assumption:
Kovalev's clutch performances are usually when it counts the most... so he's a keeper for the playoffs. he will be kept.
Sammy has no trade value whatsoever. he will be kept.

AlexKlund made up rumour:
Ryder, Perezhoghin and something like Plekanec will leave for a CENTER... Why this is a tempting package? Young, Cheap and Talented
Why this doesn't kill us? Kost, Lapierre, Latendresse easily replace them all (as far as youth, cheapness and talent is concerned)
Who is the center coming our way? I heard TBay has half their caproom locked on 3 players... just make your guess.

I like it, not totally crazy but a bit on the edge.
Great work.

As for the TB connection, I highly doubt it, but I'd love to be wrong.

After years of hearing Lecavalier will be traded to MTL it isn't gonna happen.

A deal could be made to pick up a second line centre in the next few weeks as more and more teams realize that they are dead in the water for the playoffs and want to save some cash. Maybe Jokinen finally leaves FLA after being hosed by "building a contender" before trading Luongo.

Better yet, send Rivet, Perezhogin, Plekanec, Ryder and 5 first rounders to Pittsburgh for Crosby!

Yes I'm kidding, but who amung us would turn that down?

I dunno if this has been brought up while i was gone on holiday... but is anyone else thinkin that with all the injuries Anaheim has had in the defence position, it might spark a trade between the Habs and them... Souray perhaps?

With beauchemin being out nearly 3 months and pronger with a broken foot, they might be wanting some more good depth. Just throwing it out there.

anaheim has the cap room for souray but I don't see any player that I would like and that they would want to give up. I don't think they'd give up a getzlaf or a perry.

nobody should trade with Anaheim their loosing their advance and that's fine like that

BUT i have Anaheim in my fantasy pool so.....

I highly doubt Gainey moves Souray in a year when the Canadiens are doing so well. If the Habs were to lose 12 of their lext 15 or something along those lines possibly but not while the Habs are in the Hun for home ice.

I like Andy McDonald a lot..

yes, I know, he's only 5-10..

and I have no idea if Mr. McDonald is available

he's a good player though..

Oohhw,

according to THN he is making $3,333,300 a year..

nevermind..

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oh.......... give it a break!

souray's NOT going to be moved till just before the trade deadline if at all... i'd confidently go with 'if at all'.


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Oh are you Gainey? Why don't you give it a break?

no, i'm not gainey but if you look at the situation from an objective distance, you'll see that this guy (souray) is much too valuable to the team as it is. he's an important part of their success.

the only way i see him being traded is if gainey gets a high level defenseman back.

you don't quickly move out a 33 point in 37 game player. yes, he may be a -1 but only 5 of the top 10 defensemen are in the + side or, if you wish, only 13 out of the top 30 are in the +. Souray's -1 is very small compared to others.

he's going to stay unless he's replaced by someone of similar value...


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This is a forum, if people want to speculate they should be free to do so. I know your giant brain has looked at this from every possible angle and analyzed the situation and know it is impossible but people still might want to fantasize.

I am very sure stranger trades have happened that no one has foreseen over history. It might not be likely that anaheim trades for souray but they have the talent to send the other way to make it happen so it's not impossible so leave people to talk. Sheesh.

talk if you wish... by the way... it's not that i have a giant brain... it's just that i'm quite fat-headed.

to fantasize, let's see anaheim send either pronger or neidermeyer over our way...

that'd be weird but very nice....................



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