Just heard it on RDS

2011 2nd to Florida, confirmed by TSN's Bob McKenzie.

http://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie

A 2nd rounder for Moore? Bleh.

Big fat shrug. 37th skater.

This looks like preparation for a second move, doesn't it? We're already over the cap and we have plenty of bodies as things are (despite the key injuries).

*goes to check Moore's numbers*

How many centers do we have?

Moore is a 3rd-4th liner

Will Lapierre be traded ?

there got to be another move coming?????

Yeah. Moore's an average sized, thirty year old center that once had 45 points in a season but seems to usually score more like 15-30. I wonder why we'd want him.

....Could it possibly be in anticipation of a Plekanec (or Gomez) trade? Plekanec/Jack Johnson deal coming up, as I predicted.

Just posted a quick blurb on the deal with the stats: http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=1981

Trade Plekanec. That would be ######ed.

If I'm Metropolit, I'd be very worried about the next 24 or so hours until the trade freeze...

i would think it as to be Metropolit being moved but you would think the other deal would of been made by now??if we are over the cap, do the nhl give you time to make room?

i really not a big fan of moore

Deal's not official, trade call hasn't been made. Gauthier has until then to make a move (Maxwell seems like the immediate choice for a demotion to get under the cushion).

Huh?? Trading a 2nd round pick for a 30-year-old journeyman?!? And a rental to boot?!? WTF?!?? This team needs more picks, not more mediocrity. Even if this is prep for a subsequent move, I simply can't see how sacrificing a pick that high makes any sense for this player; maybe a 4th rounder at best. I'll refrain final judgement until I see what possible follow-up move might be forthcoming, but right now this looks like a small but significant piece of smelly dogsh*t of a deal - significant because it suggests either that Gauthier fails to grasp that this team needs to re-stock its system, not further deplete it, or else that he is just an idiot. Or both.

Keep Metro


Trade Lapierre

Just finished running the numbers, the Habs are just over the cushion (2+ mil over the cap) which confirms my concerns earlier. Something's gotta give here. One of the sites I use as a checkpoint has some bonuses coming off that are unhittable, not sure if I can get the specifics on those though like last year.

Early stages yet, but.... I don't understand.

Right. The trade alone is underwhelming, but a follow-up trade appears to be looming. That's when we can judge whether it was worth giving up a second.

I want Gainey back!

+1
Dominic Moor for a 2nd Rounder - you gotta be fxxking kidding me!!
No matter what the followup is, a 2nd rounder for Moore??? That's what the leafs got for Antropov who was a 20 goal scorer last year.
We need to dump salary not pick up more. How many 3rd/4th liners does a team need. Granted we have a lot of kids in that role due to injuries, but I'd rather play those kids then deal picks for spare tire!!

Didn't really like the Gauthier pickup, unless he really hits a homerun with a followup deal, I think we are in trouble.

First it was the comment that the only had one discussion about his UFA status and no numbers have even been discussed yet, now this bonehead trade. Hell, I would have been pissed off even if the habs moved a 3rd rounder for Moore!!!

If it is more futures for a misguided run at the playoffs, this team is the new Leafs.

Short of us landing something very strong, trading a 2nd for Moore is unpalatable, at best. I suggest Gauthier should win whatever deal he's up to next or he may be run out of Montreal very, very fast.

Correction, this team is picking up the old useless leafs

stunning trade.. finally we make the big move to take this team to the next level. Sure we have cap problems now, but with Moore we can finally dump Gomez or Plex and put together a real top line.

this team is so close now. All we need to do is trade Halak and a first rounder for a number 7 D and we are set....

Seriously.. this better be part of a bigger move or I might have to cry...

Definitely needed to upgrade the third line centre spot, Moore seems kind of like a gamble in that regard. And at 6'0", he isn't exactly going to be creating much space out there.

Not who I would have thought of first, that's for sure. He could take some PK minutes away from Gomez, though, which would hopefully keep him fresher for offensive situations.

Moore fetched a 2nd rounder last year, weird he's still going for that rate during a down year.

you had me worried until I read your last line can you blame me after hearing the habs traded a #2 pick for Dominic Fxcking Moore!

I don't think Moore is good enough for even a bad GM to add him on in the attempt to cover the loss of Andrei and Cammalleri. It looks to me like he was acquired to fill the center position because one of our centers is going to be traded. As I doubt we'd trade a 2nd for a C that will likely be no better than Metro or Laps, I think it's one of our top 2 Cs that's going, more likely Plekanec than Gomez. The problem with this theory is that Gauthier just said that he was trying to sign Plekanec.



Yeah. No matter what's about to happen, I'd prefer to use Maxwell, Trotter, White or switch someone to C before giving up a 2nd for Moore.

I just read the HW article. THis is worse then i thought! THey traded a #2 for Dominc Fxcking Moore??? AND he is going to be a UFA????

Unless Moore is the one who is going to be moved as part of a bigger move, this is really a DUMB MOVE!

Martin was in Montreal by the time Moore was signed by Florida, right?

He had even coached a couple games by then. He has no previous connection with Moore as far as I can tell.

iam a little sick

If Moore is worth a second rounder, maybe we should trade Price. Just on speculation alone, the comparative value would be about 14 first rounders.

My latest thought is that maybe Moore is to be used in a package for a team that wasn't lunatic enough to give up a 2nd rounder.

That would make some sense to me.

At 1st glance, this doesn't seem to be a smart move.

Blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I still can't figure this one out.. He is worse then Metro, on par with Laps they way he is playing this year. He can in no way fill in for Plex or Gomez.

I could see this if he was signed cheap for a couple of years and they were moving Laps for a 2nd or something, but he is a UFA. We just gave us a 2nd round pick to have Moore for a couple of months... wow.. if the team is this screwed then we are the ones who should be dumping guys for picks and rebuilding.

That's what i had just said. OTherwise even a 3rd rounder for Moore - a UFA would just be STUPID! Like i said, Antropov who was a BIG 20 goal centre netted the leafs a 2nd rounder last year.

"from failing hands we pass the torch" - PLEASE someone from the current players please look up when you're in the dressing room!

That sig. Hm.

Gainey's failing hand had the torch and passed it to...

...someone with no freakin arms??

2nd rounders aren't worthless, but I think you guys are overestimating their value. The success rate for 2nd rounders making the NHL isn't incredibly greater than the rounds below it, and it's a big drop off from Round 1.

Anyways, I think it's possible that a trade is coming on D, not at forward. Subban's call up is interesting. Maybe it was just precautionary, but given that a move has to be made (or else someone is now on LTIR, I guess), I could see a veteran D being dealt.

My first thought with such a ridiculous trade was Hamr. But then, they insist we're going to make the playoffs, so trading Hamr would be suicide, honestly.

I dunno. Right now I have a feeling that I haven't had in a long time - I remember it well from the days of Rejean Houle: that slightly sick, helpless feeling that comes from watching the Habs do things that even the most casual fan can see are straightforwardly stupid. (Never once did Gainey give me this feeling, BTW). With the information we now have, this is a DUMB DEAL. And it's hard to see how any subsequent move can turn it into a sensible one. I'll refrain from total despair about what this says about the Gauthier regime until I see what comes next, but goddamn, I'm not sure I can stand another decade of the outright futility that a move like this portends.

Even the Subban call-up has me uneasy. Was Gauthier the force behind rushing prospects like Price as well? Open mind here, but I believe we should let Subban marinade for at least one full season in the minors.

I have felt like this for 6 months.

Eklund (yeah, I know) insists Montreal is not done.

The Lucky Charms leprechaun and Keebler elves told me the same thing!

maybe we can trade a first rounder for wellwod lmfao

sorry i know this is no time for jokes...

LTIR isn't going to do anything for the Habs the rest of the way, the discrepancy between what's spent relative to non-bonus cap hit is simply too much to make up over the rest of the season.

This better be the bad news part of the trade, because Im pretty sure the we could of had a Moore type player on waivers or get one that presently isn't even under contract. 2nd round pick means the other teams were offering 3rd rounds. which means Gauthier HAD to get him for something else to happen. I'm excited!!!!

I don't like the price of this trade unless Gaulthier can recover the pick. Moore has downside but he does shot the puck like crazy from everywhere and he works hard. Is speedy and shifty too. I hope he fits like he's never fit anywhere before.

I have to believe there's more to this. Being over cap says it all. What are the penalties for being over cap? Forfeits?

Normally I'd put this in the rumour thread but since the Moore trade is news right now I figured I'd post it here.




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Keep your eyes and ears open

AWFUL, I am speechless, is this a sign of things to come WOW!!

2nd rounder for a 2 month rental, :

--- That puts you over your cap
--- Does not bring any value to table
--- Takes the spot of another younger player
--- We start giving away draft picks ( I dont care what the odds how successful or not they may or may not be), let your scouting staff do their work, take away these tools ( picks) what are you left, TO THINK GAUTHIER IS HEAD OF SCOUTING
--- Are we at beginning of recycling in players other dont want?

The teams that are at top of standings at present have built through draft, well managed cap, and making most use of assets ( trading upcoming UFA for draft picks, young prospects....)

NOT be the " also rans" trading picks for 4th line rentals? WOW


what is doing next: trading Plek/Kostit for FROLOV wow....NO NO NO....I live out west, and FROLOV is useless....


WOWOW....speechless!!

If that's the case (even with Kostitsyn applied retoractively?), and this trade goes down as is, then the Habs must be under the cap. Simple as that, really.

Whatever the Habs are over the cap by this year, that amount will be deducted from next season's cap. Right now, that figure ain't pretty. As for the Frolov rumour, the deal as reported would immediately be vetoed by the NHL because of the cap situation.

If it was Gomez for Moore it would have been alright, but a 2nd ?