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Your point is key to all this. It was the biggest weakness last year, and it is how Martin teaches. Look at Hossa and Havlat. Both use that great skill on the backcheck as well.

2 years at 1.8 million and the C.

I've said this on a lot of posts. It is Kovy that I will miss the most. I was hoping he could retire a habs. Koivu will be missed, but I look forward to new leadership. To be honest, he is the one guy that I wanted gone. Not because of him as a player. I love the lttle warrior. But because we needa new leader. Komi: it's going to painful playing against him.

Kovalev! Find a way BOb.

As far as size goes, if the Habs stick to their own system, it shouldn't matter. Datsuk, Helm Hudler, and Filpula are all lil fellers, but when you want to hit them the puck is long gone off their stick. Passed to a teamate who is always open. I guess Helm got rocked hard a couple times in the playoffs, but you get my point. As much as seeing Komi go breaks my heart, (favourite player for the last two years) 5 million to keep a 2 goal 8 assist guy is a little insane. Gill's +- is quite good, and I was impressed with his play in Pittsburgh. He also scored 2 goals and had 8 asssists last year. It's Kovy who I'm going to miss. I understand the signing of Gomez. It hurts, but what do you do? There is nobody out there to trade for or sign, so you get who's available. Now, Gionta is a confusing one. We would rather have that little dwarf than Kovy? He will buy Martin's system. He had chemistry with Gomez. He would probably look great with Cammeleri. But 5 million for a half pint 20 goal scorer? WTF? I hope it works. I have never been loyal to too many players after leaving the Habs, but I loved Kovy. He reminds me of the 80s version of Lafleur. Especially when he get's his helmet knocked off. If this expensive experiment does not work, Gainey should be fired. I have never bashed him, but it's true.

taken from that new jersey thread "LOL AT HABS FIRST LINE Gio (5m) Gomez (7.5m) Cammalleri (6m) Average height: 5'9 This first line may be leaps and bounds better than the old one. Gio and Gomer should play well with Martin's system. It's up to Camelleri to fit in.

I am very sad to see Kovy go. Kovy and Komi, I was really hoping would be re signed

There goes my favourite habs for the last two years.

Wow. Komi did not want to sign with us obviously. I am totally pissed about this.

Wow. He is gonna crush our left wingers. Maybe him and BGL will go.

How is signing Bufalo's best defenseman for a very modest increase an Ouch? I think this is a good signing. I will hold back all judgement until I see what the 09/10 looks like. Then I will judge. Even then I may be wrong. Every person on thjis forum hated the Hammer signing. 5 months later, he was a rock, and our most reliable d man. This year, not so much. Still looks better than Dandy and Booboo at the same price.

I would sign Kovy over Koivu any day. Koivu is one of my favourite all time Habs and I love the little feller, but if he aint willing to sign short term for 3 million or less, then bye bye lil buddy. Kovy, as enigmatic as he is, is a game changer.

I couldn't agree more.

Wow, do you and I ever think differently! I think Tanguay snould be the first forward they sign. He was great whenever he played. Him and Lang were the two best offensive forwards on the team.

Francois Allaire is in TO, so we won't have his services.

Awesome. I'm a western canadian with grade 11 french, so I can comprehend most of what I read, but am too lazy to figure it out word for word. That IS how rumours are started.

Doesn`t look too impressive. Belfour and Vokoun.

I think Higgins and Plek are going to flourish with Martin. They are both very fast, and very good checkers in a wide open team. They should look great with him.

Was Schnide minus 19 WITH THE HABS, or for the full season? I know he came in with like a minus 19 or something. He seemed better than that to me. Sorry, found the answer in the very next post. I would definitely sign Schnide if the price is right. 2 to 3 million. I was laughed at for saying this before, but he was a catalyst for the team when Lang went down.

Please refer to the individual record list on the previous page.

Meh, Last time I checked, the team that scores more goals, wins. The times had something to do with it, but it's all retoric. Gretz is bar none the greatest player to lace up the skates.

Gretzky and Mario are the greatest of all time. Look at heir point per game stats. I never watched Orr play, and his footage is impressive, but I believe Gretz and Mario are THE 2 superheros of hockey. Everyone else is out of their league. Orr, Messier, Howe, Lafluer, Coffey, Bossy... are elite players. Gretzky and Mario are superheros. Bunch of records i copied and pasted. Holy crap 1.Most goals: 894 in 1,487 games 2.Most goals, including playoffs: 1,016 in 1,487 regular season and 208 playoff games 3.Most goals, one season: 92 in 1981–82, 80-game schedule 4.Most goals, one season, including playoffs: 100 in 1983–84, 87 goals in 74 regular season games and 13 goals in 19 playoff games 5.Most goals, 50 games from start of season: 61 in 1981–82 (October 7, 1981 to January 22, 1982, 80-game schedule) and 1983–84 (October 5, 1983 to January 25, 1984), 80-game schedule 6.Most goals, one period: 4 (Tied with 10 other players) February 18, 1981 7.Most assists: 1,963 8.Most assists, including playoffs: 2,223 9.Most assists, one season: 163 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule 10.Most assists, one season, including playoffs: 174 in 1985–86, 163 assists in 80 regular season games and 11 assists in 10 playoff games 11.Most assists, one game: 7 (tied with Billy "The Kid" Taylor) done three times -- February 15, 1980; December 11, 1985; February 14, 1986 12.Most assists, one road game: 7 (tied with Billy Taylor) December 11, 1985 13.Most points: 2,857 in 1,487 games (894 goals, 1,963 assists) 14.Most points, including playoffs: 3,239 in 1,487 regular season and 208 playoff games. (1016 goals, 2223 assists) 15.Most points, one season: 215 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule (52 goals, 163 assists) 16.Most points, one season, including playoffs: 255 in 1984–85; 208 points in 80 regular season games and 47 points in 18 playoff games 17.Most overtime assists, career: 15 18.Most goals by a centre, career: 894 19.Most goals by a centre, one season: 92 in 1981–82, 80-game schedule 20.Most assists by a centre, career: 1,963 21.Most assists by a centre, one season: 163 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule 22.Most points by a centre, career: 2,857 23.Most points by a centre, one season: 215 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule 24.Most assists in one game by a player in his first season: 7 on February 15, 1980 25.Highest goals-per-game average, one season: 1.18 in 1983–84, 87 goals in 74 games 26.Highest assists-per-game average, career (300 min.): 1.321 -- 1,963 assists in 1,487 games 27.Highest assists-per-game average, one season: 2.04 in 1985–86, 163 assists in 80 games 28.Highest points-per-game average, one season (among players with 50-or-more points): 2.77 in 1983–84, 205 points in 74 games 29.Most 40-or-more goal season: 12 in 20 seasons 30.Most consecutive 40-or-more goal season: 12 from 1979–80 to 1990–91 31.Most 50-or-more goal seasons: 9 (tied with Mike Bossy) 32.Most 60-or-more goal seasons: 5 (tied with Mike Bossy) 33.Most consecutive 60-or-more goals seasons: 4 from 1981–82 to 1984–85 34.Most 100-or-more point seasons: 15 35.Most consecutive 100-or-more point seasons: 13 from 1979–80 to 1991–92 36.Most three-or-more goal games, career: 50 -- 37 three-goal (hat trick) games; nine four-goal games; four five-goal games 37.Most three goal games, one season: 10 (done twice) in 1981–82 and 1983–84 38.Longest consecutive assist scoring streak: 23 games in 1990–91, 48 assists 39.Longest consecutive point-scoring streak: 51 Games in 1983–84 (October 5, 1983 to January 28, 1984, 61 goals, 92 assists for 153 points) 40.Longest consecutive point-scoring streak from start of season: 51 in 1983–84; 61 goals, 92 assists for 153 points (October 5, 1983 to January 28, 1984) [edit] Playoff records (15) 1.Most playoff goals, career: 122 2.Most playoff assists, career: 260 3.Most assists, one playoff year: 31 in 1988 (19 games) 4.Most assists in one series (other than final): 14 (tied with Rick Middleton) in 1985 Conference Finals (six games vs. Chicago) 5.Most assists in final series: 10 in 1988 (four games, plus suspended game vs. Boston) 6.Most assists, one playoff game: 6 (tied with Mikko Leinonen) on April 9, 1987 7.Most assists, one playoff period: 3 -- Three assists by one player in one period of a playoff game has been recorded on 70 occasions. Gretzky has had three assists in one period five times 8.Most points, career: 382 -- 122 goals and 260 assists 9.Most points, one playoff year: 47 in 1985 (17 goals and 30 assists in 18 games) 10.Most points in final series: 13 in 1988 three goals and 10 assists (four games plus suspended game vs. Boston, three goals) 11.Most points, one playoff period: 4 (tied with nine other players) 12.Most short-handed goals, one playoff year: 3 (tied with five other players) 1983 13.Most short-handed goals, one playoff game: 2 (tied with eight other players) April 6, 1983 14.Most game winning goals in playoffs, career: 24 (tied with Brett Hull) 15.Most three-or-more goals games (hat trick): 10 (eight three-goal games, two four-goal games) [edit] All-Star records (6) 1.Most All-Star game goals: 13 (in 18 games played) 2.Most All-Star game goals, one game: 4 (tied with three players) 1983 Campbell Conference 3.Most All-Star game goals, one period: 4 1983 Campbell Conference, third period 4.Most All-Star game assists, career: 12 (tied with four players) 5.Most All-Star game points, career: 25 (13 goals, 12 assists in 18 games) 6.Most All-Star game points, one period: 4 (tied with Mike Gartner and Adam Oates) 1983 Campbell Conference, third period (four goals)

Remember back in the Martin days, the Senators post game interviews were given while the players worked out? He made them ride the bike and condition after the game. It might have been the trainer doing that, but I don't see the Sens doing that since he left. I am happy to have a system and some insulation for Carey. It's funny that this is the exact term Wamsley used several times about Tim Thomas, and it is the term used in the press conference.

Pretty detailed stuff. My daughter's ex boyfriend is a crazy Pens fan. I will send him the link. I doubt stuff like this when I read it, and chances are this guy just has a great imagination, but it's still cool. I mean they are all young guys with two days off in a strange city, so I could see it happening.

I agree that we can't develop another Hossa, but I could see Subaan developing into a dominant #1 Defenseman, a la Jaybo.