ForumGhost
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I can name about 20 Stanley Cup winners that I know for a fact have partied all night. A few of them did it during the season/playoffs, got blasted drunk, etc. Won't name names but if you think hockey players are choir boys you're silly. Kings specifically won a Cup with players partying out late during Cup finals games.
I'm not worried about Radulov partying -- I'm worried about him riding the bench all year if he doesn't meet MT's 7PM bedtime.
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So they move Subban because he's not a 'team-player', and go get Radulov? Like the signing, but the hypocrisy is breathtaking. If this is all of our moves for the summer, I think we are a worse team than last year.
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I've been a loyal defender of the team for a long time, sticking with them through many questionable trades.
Take the Gomez trade -- I forgave them for that because at the time, no one knew how good McDonagh would turn out, and we were filling a desperate need at center (obviously, no one knew how badly Gomez would spiral). Terrible trade in retrospect, but I could at least respect the intentions. They were trying to make the team better. They took a gamble and lost. It happens.
With this trade, we know how bad it is for us. MB knows, the ownership knows, the media knows, the fans know. They knowingly pulled the trigger on making us a worse team because MT doesn't like Subban. He didn't know how to coach him, which is his responsibility and his short-coming.
It's not just that Subban is loved, is charismatic, exciting to watch. a philanthropist, etc. that made me lose faith in this organization. I understand when hockey trades need to be made for a better on-ice product/long-term stability in the cap era. This is not that. The is the organization showing me that keeping their coach happy is a bigger priority than not only what the fans want, but also than icing the best team possible.
Go Hawks!
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LIstening to the meltdown on TSN radio live... Glad to see all the experts are on our side. Does this trade make ANYONE happy??
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Will this beat out the McDonagh trade?
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I have no doubt Pleks, DD, and Emelin can all be moved for picks/junk to free up cap space -- I just don't see why Stamkos would want to sign here. If we sign him at 11 AAV (for example) he would be losing about 41 of his 77 mil. That, plus the misery of MTL media and fan expectations, the language, etc. ...
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My list of targets by priority:
1. Okposo
2. Eriksson
3. Ladd
4. Brouwer
5. Lucic
6. Boedker
7. Backes
I don't think anything below that makes us a better team. Stamkos not included beacause c'mon... obviously.
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If MB was going to acquire a bottom six (as he always seems to be doing), I was hoping to get Weise back. Shaw probably is an upgrade though. I like the deal, but obviously we still need to be zeroed in on Okposo/Eriksson.
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Fowler would look great with the Habs. Could allow Markov to play 2-3 line pairing minutes + PP. Not sure what the ducks would want for him... Assuming a roster D-man isn't going the other way (but also assuming we are able to dump Emelin this summer), we would have easily one of the best d-corps in the league.
Fowler - Subban
Markov - Petry
Beaulieu - Pateryn
Barberio
Of course, scoring up front should remain the top priority.
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Remember that Logan Brown is 8 inches taller than Clayton Keller and scouts always love size.
How much more talented must Keller be vs Brown that they are neck and neck in almost every draft ranking?
From what I understand, on skill alone, Keller would be ranked in the top 5 if not for his size.
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MOAR? what does it stand for?
More.
Keller would be my pick if we can't move up.
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Right. Speed and skill beat size and no speed/skill. That didn't used to be the case.
That said, only a nut would deny that size + speed + skill isn't better than speed and skill alone.
What's the consensus on Brown's skating? With these guys, I often hear "good for their size," which is fine except opponents aren't going to take their size into account and politely slow down for them.
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As the game seemingly gets faster and faster every year, I think size is becoming less important. Brown obviously has skill, but I doubt he would rank that high if it weren't for his size. I'd much rather trade up to try and get a goal-scoring winger, which is what we actually need.
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Everyone seems ready to count him out and call him a bust, but I would like to point out that there is a chance this might actually wake him up. Obviously he has had incidents in the past, but this one seems to eclipse everything we know about. If I'm in his position, I figure (and I'm sure everyone around him is telling him the same thing) that unless I can turn it around and be a good player for MTL, I'm done in the NHL. Maybe this is the wake up call he needs. Some people need to hit rock bottom before it sinks in. Sucks it had to happen this way, but this might be what he needs.
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I don't think we lose much by keeping Tinordi. He still has top 4 potential I think. People often forget that defensive defensemen (especially larger ones) take quite a bit longer to mature. Give him a chance to succeed this year. The ship has sailed for trading him at good value, so let's just ride it out with him.
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If MAB wants MTL to actually be a contender, he needs to show he's serious about aqcuiring some top-6 scoring. None of these player on the free agent market really qualify as a top 6 player (aside from MSL, but...).
We need to make a Saad-level deal.
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I know that if I was GM of that team, I would be looking for a goalie with top-tier potential to grow with the young core, rather than trying to take chances on free-agent goalies, or overpaying for someone decent in a trade who will walk away in a year or two. If they are serious about building a contending team that will be good for the length of time you have Hall, McDavid, RNH, etc., you need a cornerstone goalie. And as far as top-tier potential goalies that could be available, Fucale fits the bill better than anyone else I can think of. He's the right age, and MTL really doesn't need him.
I'm sure Edmonton will get a veteran for the next few years, but they need a Fucale in the long run. How often does jumping from journeyman goalie to journeyman goalie each year ever work? -coughphillycough
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So it seems that Edmonton is once again roped into using their 1st on a forward, and now with a generational talent entering their organization, the pressure will be greater than ever to succeed (if that's even possible). It's no secret that they are desperate for a goaltender to build their club around... I think you can see where I'm going here.
I think we all know that Fucale has no real future in Montreal -- he's just too good to spend the next 10+ years behind Price. It's a matter of time before we need to liquidate him, and after the WJC, his stock should be pretty high.
Edmonton will definitely need to trade one of their young forwards to get what they need. Hall and RNH are probably untouchable, but perhaps a deal could be put together around Fucale for either Eberle and Yakupov. Edmonton probably will want to get some defense in any deal involving their stars, so the deal may also involve Pateryn or Tinordi (I wouldn't touch Beaulieu).
Bergevin should be aggressive in chasing one of these players, as if we want to be a contender, we really need some more natural snipers.
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The fan voting is, and always has been, a joke.
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Vrbata has been a great player, but a 5 mil per season player? You could maybe make that argument a few years ago, but at 33 years old, I don't see his production getting an better (to say the least).
I still think we need a more offence up front, but I consider this a bullet dodged.
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There has got to be more coming. Otherwise, this is a strict downgrade.
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For Gilbert?! Bleh... such a bad taste in my mouth. Gorges was a heart and soul guy, a leader, and a defensive anchor. How do you think the locker room will react to this?
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"I want people to know that I never wanted to leave Montreal," he said in interviews with Dave Stubbs of The Montreal Gazette and J-F Chaumont of Le Journal de Montreal on Monday. "I have never asked for a trade - this is (general manager) Marc Bergevin's call. I am in shock."
"This is really hard to accept," Gorges added to both Montreal papers. "I have always given my heart to this team."
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Gorges > Boyle
Montreal signs Bobby Farnham
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Thank God, was worried we didn't have enough bottom 6 players.