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2 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Hronek is 25 years old and can move the puck, which they desperately need. It's a huge addition for them. The pick was the one they got for Horvat, so you could see this as an extension of the Horvat trade.
Rutherford has said he is looking for a turnaround within a couple of years, so a rebuild is not what they're after. And you can make the case that with Petersson and Hughes entering their primes, and even Demko having lots of what-should-be-elite years ahead of him, a rebuild would be a debatable choice. I'll be curious to see what the phone lines have to say about this here in Van.
A 1st and a 2nd seems like a lot for a player who is only under team control for another year or two. It seems like a terrible trade to me and it makes me glad I’m not a Canucks fan
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If we could trade Drouin for a 5th or another potentially high reward/low risk deal a la Gurianov, I would be ecstatic. Similarly, trading Hoffman and not having to give up assets or retain much salary for someone to take him would be a major win, bordering on a minor miracle. I’m now hoping that we sign Monaghan to a one year “show me” deal because I don’t think even this brain trust can get a good additional return on him this deadline.
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I have never before not been seriously upset by the Habs losing to Boston. I'm hoping this new detachment only lasts for this season. Also, I don't think that I have ever been more wrong about a trade than I was in the immediate aftermath of Romanov being dealt for Dach.
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17 hours ago, Neech said:
No way we trade either of our first rounders for a 25 year old. If Dubois really wants to come here he can sign another one year deal and come here as a UFA. Otherwise no reason to divert from the rebuild.
One outside the top 5 pick for PLD? That seems like a bargain for the Habs but what if Mickayov(sp) falls to that level? Interesting dilemma for HuGort but I doubt bey much that the Jets would be interested in that deal.
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1 hour ago, GHT120 said:
Over the summer ... not now.
1 hour ago, Dalhabs said:Is it time to bring an exorcist soon to scare away the demons/ghosts of the forum?
Yes, not now. But next summer an exorcist, a smudging ceremony and then blessings from every faith imaginable
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From I read,via Eric Engles, I think , his agent (Brisson) believes shutting him down now will allow him to be ready for training camp next season
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3 hours ago, GHT120 said:
A complication in this is the 50 contract ceiling ... Habs are using 46 ... some deadline deals ***could*** involve taking back more than one contract ... and HuGo may have their eye on some NCAA free agents for whom signing for playing avgame(s) and burning a year on their ELC could be the difference between signing or not ... the NCAA playoffs start in early march and the Frozon Four in is April 6th and 8th ... so HuGo may be reticent to invest too much in washed up vets not acquired in trades ... Laval likely to be the victim=m as their roster will be strip-mined and only able to back-fill with career AHL/ECHL types.
Yes, and a series of PTOs could be used to fill in Laval with Echl -lite players without affecting the contract limit
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On 1/17/2023 at 1:59 AM, alfredoh2009 said:
it was earlier in the thread, I forget what the proposal was. 👆 look up 🙃
On 1/17/2023 at 1:59 AM, alfredoh2009 said:it was earlier in the thread, I forget what the proposal was. 👆 look up 🙃
It doesn't matter. There is no way Wifi is getting traded unless the return is excellent. Far more likely Edmunston or Savard are dealt.
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6 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Just seeing that name gives me hives, LOL.
Not only does McCarron dredge up memories better repressed, the opportunity cost of acquiring him or Hinostroza is too great. By that I mean, if you have either of them on the roster it reduces the organization's ability to sign other more desirable players-- by occupying a contract slot and eating cap space-- or to act as a 3rd party salary broker at the trade deadline. Far better to sign someone to a PTO in Laval and bring back Richard or another young guy if we are drastically short of bodies for the farm and need another player in Montreal. I wouldn't be surprised to see a wavier claim but only if the player involved is young and has some untapped potential eg., someone like Kovacevic
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10 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said:
Very good press conference from Hughes.
I am not 100% on board with Hugh-Gort's decisions, but I have to give it to them that they are confident and diligent in execution
I really hope it will work out and bring a cup to the Habs. Go Habs Go!
I have to ask, what decisions of HuGort do you have issues with? I’m not trying to attack you. I’m genuinely curious.
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On 1/14/2023 at 4:53 PM, TurdBurglar said:
I wouldn’t be opposed to Edmundson and Xhekaj for Puljujarvi and Broberg, even if Montreal had to add something else like a late round or conditional pick, as long as it doesn’t include Montreal’s or Florida’s first.
In that scenario Edmonton should be adding for us to take Puljujarvi, not the other way around. Also, under no circumstances should we be trading young cost controlled assets unless the return is astronomical and Broberg although a good prospect, isn’t that.
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14 hours ago, GHT120 said:
Very true ... the essence of my point is that he is doing it himself ... not being Warren Young carried on Mario Lemieux's back (WY that season scored 56% of his NHL goals in 34% of his NHL games) ... MM is most impressive ... but in the current political climate may make it a risk to draft him no matter how talented he shows himself to be.
Well worth the risk. Why not take a shot at a potential home run pick if he falls outside of the top five-- since we could have two ten picks. Hurray for Sergei Bobrovsky-- my favorite NHL player not on the Canadiens!
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Arrgh! Just thinking about all potential squandered with Lefebvre in charge of the farm team makes me grind my teeth even now.
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8 hours ago, Habsfan89 said:
Can't wait for the trade deadline
Drouin
Dvorak
Dadonov
Monahan
Should all be traded
Dvorak
Edmundson
Anderson
Armia
Hoffman
Could get traded but no rush on them this year to do it. Next year more likely for them.
At this point, if HUGORT manage to offload Drouin and Dadonov for a pair of 7th round draft picks and get anything for Armia without retaining salary/ sending an asset with him, they are indeed the second coming of Sam Pollock. It is almost conceivable that they get a 3rd for Hoffman if he can stay relatively productive and injury free, but for any return of significance its going to be Monahan, Edmunston or Anderson leaving. It would be nice if we could trade Dvorak and keep Monahan on a reasonable deal.... I dare to dream... Long live the SCoSP!
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8 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:
He is making the Romanov for Dach three way look really good right now! Let’s hope Suzuki, Caufield, and Dach continue to progress up front and Guhle, Harris, and wifi on the backend. I’m not even including Slafkovsky since he’s still got a way to go, but I can’t remember so many young players to get excited about since 85’ and 86’!
if some of our young prospects also take a big step forward next year, we can be a playoff team earlier than expected.
this Mgmt team and St Louis have done a better job in bringing young players along in less than a year, than MB and his coaches did in 10 years!
Lack of development and the lack of a plan to fix those self-imposed deficiencies ( e.g., Leberfve, lack of skill development and analytics departments, lack of a coherent team building and drafting strategy)were Bergevin’s biggest flaws. While he should get credit for the Suzuki trade, drafting Caufield and signing Wifi, the contrast between the old regime and the new are striking. Also, HuGort’s work is showing results far, far faster than anyone anticipated.
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1 hour ago, dlbalr said:
It was pitiful listening to the announcers complain about how Vancouver was getting the short end of the stick with those penalty calls. There were three people roughing. Three people were called for roughing. Gallagher apparently deserved an extra two for being the aggressor (which consisted of looking at Demko after Ekman-Larsson was roughing him up). Sportsnet's cheapness to put a homer regional broadcast crew on a national (not a regional nor an elevated regional) broadcast is pathetic.
I also thought that was a ridiculous comment from the announcers. AAARGH, even Gary Galley was better than that...not by much, but better.
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12 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:
I would love to see what Trotz would do with the leafs. Would he abandon the high octane offence and go for the defence first system or a trap system?
leafs are surely going to lose Mathews and I’m hoping that leads to a rebuild and decades of continuing obscurity
Trotzs likes heavy, big, defense first players and teams. He is a Brian Burke coach not Kyle Dubas. Yes, I know he had success in Washington but they were, and are, a much heavier team than TO. Would he be able to pivot his style to work with a team that is the antithesis of what he prefers? Maybe, or maybe the rumour is true that he’s looking to move up to GM after his next coaching gig. In either case, hiring him would probably not bode well for Dubas.
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47 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:
I hear you. The way these youngsters are developing a more appropriate thread might be "Who will the Habs take with the 32nd pick in the 2023 draft?" Of course they might get a little luckier with Florida's pick (maybe 22-26). Bedard ain't happening.
That may be true. But we are only a couple of injuries on D away from playing Scheuneman, Barron or someone like Bowey on a reqular basis. Hopefully, that doesn't happen, but our NHL depth on D is already injured. Also, if Allen or Montembault gets hurt our chances for Bedard go way up. That said, I hope the Habs continue to exceed expectations and Florida unexpectedly crashes and burns.
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20 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Black Eye
The Arbiter
WiFi
This guy has more nicknames than Drouin has soft plays
What about "the Jackhammer"? Surprised that one hasn't gotten more traction.
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6 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said:
weird how Slafkovsky is in-town to enjoy the city but other prospects have to travel by bus and live on an AHL salary... I hope he doesn't become a spoiled entitled brat.
The comment was about why Slafkovsky is being placed with a billet family... precisely to avoid having him "enjoy the city" too much at 18
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6 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
The guy’s a bum. For a 27-year-old francophone to be a healthy scratch on opening night is a devastating indictment.
I’m not sure we want a “resurgent Drouin” anyhow. Given language politics and our dubious depth at LW, it would be dangerously hard to resist re-signing such a player; and yet I doubt even a 60-point Drouin would command all that much at the deadline, on an expiring contract, because most teams know what he is (although I never under-estimate the stupidity of NHL GMs). Also, if he did have such a season, he would be guaranteed to get injured right before deadline day, because he’s Jonathan Drouin.
Drouin was a complete dog feces of an acquisition by our former “Mr. Character” GM - one of those franchise-damaging, cataclysmically bad trades that every Habs GM since Pollock has made at least once. The door can’t hit his arse fast enough.
Luckily we are dealing with Hu-gort --or Horton as I have recently heard them referred to-- and they do not operate in any, way, shape or form like the previous regime. I have no doubt that even if Drouin has a great year-- and that is a big IF-- that they would not be tempted to re-sign him unless there were compelling hockey reasons to do so. They are not going to be swayed by language politics or sentiment. Their MO is to bring in players like Matheson who have a connection to Montreal and a compelling rationale as to why they fit the ethos, needs, goals, and long term plan. You know, the long term plan and commitment to a certain approach to team building and team play that Bergevin and most of his recent predecessors lacked. Forget the trades and signings-- which have been almost universally excellent-- I am most impressed by Horton's revamp of how the organization does business and their commitment to having the CH be cutting edge in treating players well, drafting with a plan, paying attention to analytics ,while being cognizant of the short-comings of a fully data-based approach, taking innovative approaches to player skills development-- with a real staff and resources-- and otherwise operating a smart, agile 21 st business intent on leveraging all of its advantages for success.
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14 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:
A "resurgent Drouin??" Isn't that a contradiction in terms.
Yes, but I live in hope. Imagine, Drouin shows flashes of brilliance, scores lots of goals and the Canadiens trade him and Armia for a first round pick and lo and behold the possibility of the Canadiens winning the egregious, ill-conceived and infuriating Sergachev for Drouin trade becomes a possibility. Likely? No. Bordering on fantasy? Yes. Pleasant to think about? Yes. Kind of like a Leafs fan envisioning a Stanley Cup.
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8 hours ago, sbhatt said:
That is exactly where Drouin and his soft-as-mush game belong....floating around the Swiss league. Good riddance!
No, no, no. We want a resurgent Drouin and the lovely assets he will bring at the trade deadline. He can go wherever once he leaves another fan base gnashing their teeth in frustration
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I usually try to make the most optimistic prediction, but Johnny has taken care of that for me so I am going for an uncharacteristically realistic prediction. Not a fan of tanking but I think HuGort are taking the best approach to avoid establishing a loser mentality and set up the club for long term success
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