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BlueKross

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  1. 2 hours ago, Commandant said:

     

     

    If this season has proven anything, having 4 players, all capable of being in the top 3 centre spots on the team.... is not a bad thing, cause you never know when players are going to get hurt.  You need to play 9 forwards on those top 3 lines... if one plays wing and goes to centre if there are injuries, thats not the worst thing in the world. 

    I don't know where the notion come from, that you can only have a certain amount of centers. In a perfect world, all players would be interchangeable , including defensemen. History would tell you, that on the forward lines, centers are the most sought after. The reason is that most coaches play their best players at center, no matter what league you are playing in. I am suggesting that you could have a team of thirteen centers. You could also have a team  where you move defensemen up to forward when needed and/or vice versa. My point is that having extra centers is an asset and not a disease you must cure.

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  2. 4 hours ago, Habber31 said:

    Chiarot got left in the dust by his man on that offside goal, then completely lost his man in front of the net on the third goal(?). He's too slow to play in the east. He was fine out west, because they play a heavy style out there. Not so much here  

    Agreed. I think he makes decisions too slow when the puck is on his stick.  Anyway he has been moved to 3rd pairing. I believe our problem is getting production out our first pairing. Something has to give.

  3. 6 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

    As I say, I accept the view that the Habs now have a good development system and quality prospects in place. The problem is that that is a long way from being a Cup contender, and, as we know from bitter experience, having well-regarded prospects does not in any way guarantee elite status. So when it comes to our young talent, my view is: I'll believe that they are the core of a future contender when I see it, not before. Meanwhile, MB's body of work to date does not provide any grounds for confidence that he knows how to take good raw materials and turn them into a Cup contender. He inherited a strong nucleus in 2013 and turned into a big pile of liquid, dribbling, noisome crap. So what I know is this:

     

    1. the Habs have some fine young players/prospects (albeit none that seem to be top-tier all-star calibre, like an Elias Pettersson, say);

    2. the Habs' two best players, the franchise pillars, are 32 and 34 respectively, and one of them has already arguably shown signs of decline;

    3. the Habs GM has a track record of failure.

     

    The optimism is understandable but excessive IMHO.

    Agreed.

  4. 5 hours ago, Metallica said:

    Report today is SJ going to offer him 8/88.

    Sounds just about right. If Montreal matches, does he come to Montreal and/or does somebody out bid that ?  OR THAT IS acceptable and he never becomes free agent?

  5. 2 hours ago, tomh009 said:

    I assume Bergevin has a plan at this point, likely with multiple fallback options. Once the Bruins and Blues finish beating up on each other we should be seeing some action.

    I do believe agents become free at the end of the month, not the end of the Stanley Cup play.

  6. 27 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:

    It's already 3 years ago that people were telling me Matt Duchene was over the hill when I was demanding we trade for him because of our (past) center woes. I never agreed, though I seemed to be on an island of my own, and still don't. 

     

    :(

    No you are not alone. I keep hearing we need defense first. I believe this defense would look a lot better with a little more offense. Duchene works for me. I am good with anything that gets that putrid powerplay going.

  7. 2 hours ago, DON said:

    Yes and when you say starter, one assumes you have others...no?

    Even though judging 2 kids after similar rookie years is highly debatable; (even Yakapov looked good after year 1), coming from totally different backgrounds, different age and playing for two different teams, one a celler dweller the other much deeper lineup, muddies the waters for these two teenagers.

    I think both had fine rookie years, what that means for career is a wild ass guess at best.

    Just to clear things up I said for starters which would be something to the effect of " in the first instant" or " I will start my argument with" and nothing to do with starters as you propose.

  8. On 4/8/2019 at 3:23 PM, DON said:

    Who else do you have in mind after the 'starter'? You also must be one of the few who think a winger is what the Habs needed to draft?

    My argument was value for the third pick.  Tkuckuk had 20 goals this year. We may not know Kok's potential for another three years. I don't believe necessarily in picking BPA but there is a case that they didn't here. I would tell you that they have needed a #1 center for years. I don't have a problem with their pick. Just saying1

  9. 43 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

    Let's not overthink this. Karlsson is a beast. Sign him. He will make the entire team better. The other UFAs I'd be fine with, but can ultimately take or leave. He is a franchise defenceman - a classic case of a UFA that only a fool talks himself out of signing.

     

    As for the wider theme, I'd be more confident that 'we are firmly on the path' if I hadn't been here before, more than once.  Bob Gainey rebuilt the right way, by drafting and developing. He had a raft of young talent come along, and unlike the current crop, he actually had a truly elite franchise prospect in Price. And we still came nowhere close to the Cup. Then, after he blew all that up and papered over the mess with UFA signings and trades, we had a second young wave involving guys like Patches, Galy, Gally  and - once again - a truly elite young stud in Subban. That 'wave' got much closer but still fell short, thanks in part to MB having no idea what he was doing.

     

    This is not even to mention the late Savard and Houle eras, when another wave of young talent (Koivu, Conroy, Tucker, Bure, etc.) was what everyone was excited about. What a bad joke those hopes were.

     

    I just feel that I've seen this movie too often to buy in unequivocally this time. Boston and TB have a MUCH better history of drafting and development. Buffalo and TO have MUCH higher-end young talent. And that's just off the top of my head. Absent any particular reason to think the Habs will be better than their rivals in the foreseeable future, the most *realistic* outcome is #3 on this poll.

     

     

     

     

    You seem to be on point, again I might add. Yeah, if you can get Karlsson, by all means. It is clear that this team needs more talent-- top end talent

  10. 1 hour ago, Neech said:

     

    There are probably better players chosen after Kotka, we just have to hope it's not a huge gap and we passed on superstars for a decent player.  I am confident, however, that we'll be happier with this #3 pick than we were with Chucky at #3.

    Tkuckuk for starters?

  11. 12 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

     

    I don't mean the trade deadline. I mean in general. He has succeeded in lowering our expectations to the point where many fans are satisfied with a fun-to-watch spirited team that misses the playoffs and has a solid but not extraordinary prospect pool. He's been in charge since 2012-13 and took a team that was knocking on the door (2014) and turned it into one that has missed the playoffs 3 of 4 seasons, with a first-round exit to the non-contending Rangers in the other year. As Neech says, "it's hard to see a path to contention" from where we are. And yet most fans are fairly happy. Why? Because we bottomed out so badly last year that this year looks great in comparison; and because a lot of Habs fans no longer even seem to think in terms of actually building a champion. 

     

    You have captured this pretty close. My biggest peeve is that MB didn't take his share of blame last year and despite positives going forward, we are not close to where we need to be. MB's tenure is still on notice as far as I am concerned.

  12. 2 hours ago, Neech said:

    Despite the worst possible outcome - no playoffs and the worst lottery odds - this team was way better than expected and played solid hockey throughout the year.  To think that we made the conference finals off an 88 point year in 2010.   Hopefully Bergevin has the midas touch again this summer.

    Colour it like you will but we finish in the bottom half of league. I expect we will play better next year as well. You got to account for the teams around us getting better as well. I hope MB has the balls to wear this and not put the blame on attitude as opposed to talent.

  13. 5 hours ago, Commandant said:

     

    The team played a high energy style overall which allowed them to produce more than their talent level for most of the year.  At this point some members of the team are running out of gas imo.

     

    There just isnt enough talent there yet.  That said suzuki and poehling should add some very soon.

    Absolutely--- We don't have enough horses. The smallest and youngest team are running on fumes. This is nothing about attitude, as it wasn't last year. It is about taking the blame away from the real culprit. I hope MB , if he is still around, has sense  to spend that money that he has been hoarding on a top free agent.

  14. On 3/4/2019 at 8:09 PM, Trizzak said:

    Reporters need to start pressuring Bergevin on management's mishandling of the farm team. 

     

    Unless a slew of overager signings are coming, Laval is running on fumes. 

    MB left Laval out to dry--- I am convinced that he don't give two hoots about the farm team-- MB's tenure is starting to take on water- this could be his Achilles heal

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