Machine of Loving Grace
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I think this might confirm that the organization thinks they don't have to rebuild and just a refresh was needed. Does not inspire much confidence for me.
That said good for Weber. Probably the only guy who can say no to Price so the locker will respect him unlike Pacioretty. Except something inside of me is a little angry because there was an argument back in the day we couldn't name Markov captain if he was injured long term and here we did it with Shea. A whole lot of our captain issues in the past would have been solved if Markov got the C after Koivu and held it all the way up until his retirement/exile by Bergevin.
First Canadian captain since Damphousse for those who care about that sort of thing.
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2 hours ago, ehjay said:
well that doesn't seem as bad as the nightmare that St. Pat trade. Seems to me Sidney stayed in (the) Pits but did we get Malkin? Probably a 1 vs 1 as that is MB thing right?
Seeing it came from my brain, we likely got Murray, Brassard, Hagelin, and a 1st.
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47 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
When he has already said he'd sign an AHL deal though, why give him the two-way right away? Let him sign the AHL contract and if they decide they want to call him up at some point, then they can convert it.
Because Julien seems to like him, and I got a feeling Juulsen starts in the AHL.
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1 hour ago, Habopotamus said:
Lol. Who came back
I don't remember that. I just remember Tim and Sid screaming about how Montreal just handed Sidney Crosby his next Stanley Cup and how the NHL needs a lockout for allowing it to happen.
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27 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
Despres is still around which is a little surprising.
He's getting a two way deal. I can smell it.
From the Ottawa Citizen: "Julien said Saturday he likes what he has seen from Després and he could be that guy waiting for the call-up from Laval. The Canadiens must decide whether he has enough of an upside to merit a contract."
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2 hours ago, Commandant said:
Just a snippet of why I was happy with the Pacioretty trade.
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1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I couldn't care less about preseason.
I'll put my faith in Price until he proves it unfounded.
Oh for sure. Preseason means nothing to Price. I meant more if he gets that stare in December...
With Tavares in Toronto, Mcdonagh in Tampa, and Karlsson in San Jose, I wonder what still keeps Price in Montreal.
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7 minutes ago, Habopotamus said:
I'm trying to stay positive, but i just don't see it.
I don't put any of this on Price, but i think he's going to have another tough season, the way this team is set up
I had a dream about a month ago we traded him to the Penguins so in my mind he's already gone.
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39 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I think the difference is that he'll be ready for that this year. My pet theory for his suckage last season is that he did not expect the team to be so terrible and was unable to adjust his expectations and motivation in time to accommodate playing for a POS bottom-feeder; and then it all snowballed into disaster. But he's Carey Price. He knows what it means to be goalie to terrible clubs (e.g., Tri-City). I believe he will draw on that experience and bounce back with a strong season.
There was a moment in the Leafs exhibition game where he looked like he was gonna kill everyone. If he isn't cool calm collected Price he isn't Price at all.
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35 minutes ago, Habopotamus said:
Schlemko was one of the worst defensemen on this team last year.
I don't know how many times last season I watched him pinch when he was last man back.
Dude is damaged goods. It looked like a quality trade at the time but it seems like SJ knew something we didn't.
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17 minutes ago, Trizzak said:
Ya, don't think we'll see any surprises on waivers tomorrow.
And hopefully we don't see a contract offer to Despres.
He had one moment of magic where he cut through the middle of the ice with some nice stickhandling and fired a backhand wide. He looked like the Despres with potential back on Pittsburgh. That one moment will probably earn him a contract.
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Petry smashed Tkachuk. That was nice to see.
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21 minutes ago, Meller93 said:
I 100% want him here at 18-25 if it means he’s actually ready. Let’s not wish away a potential star
There's nothing to wish away. I want him under control for more time when the Habs will be good, which isn't anytime soon. You think he's gonna demand a trade if he doesn't make the club? Come on.
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If Ottawa can't score with Alzner and Despres out there, fold the organization.
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1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Yeah, I'm definitely worried about rushing him. The problem kicks in if he starts to fade *after* the 9-game mark.
Which happened with Mete.
No way do I play him more than the tryout amount. If he's ppg he still goes back. Let him return next season as a Calder contender.
I want him at 19-26 or 20-27, not 18-25.
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Jonathan Drouin Under
Brendan Gallagher Under
Max Domi Under
Charles Hudon Under
Jeff Petry Under
Tomas Tatar Over -
Practice lines:
Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Byron - Domi - Lehkonen
Drouin - Kotkaniemi - Armia
Chaput - Plekanec - Scherbak
DLR - Peca - Hudon
Agostino
Mete - Petry
Alzner - Benn
Reilly - Juulsen
Ouellet - Despres
Price
Niemi
Lindgren
I guess Chaput and DLR are facing off for the 4LW role and Scherbak and Hudon are facing off for the 4RW role? Probably will keep up Peca if/when Kotkaniemi goes back to Europe? Looks like no chance for Alzner and Benn to be going anywhere. Got the feeling they see the RD as weaker than the LD and that's why Despres is getting an extra look.
I would not be shocked if Mete and Juulsen go back to the AHL since they are waiver exempt, maybe not immediately but eventually. Agostino and Chaput I don't see staying up. No way should Hudon be going to the AHL. That leaves Scherbak and DLR, and honestly I'd put Scherbak in Laval and risk waivers. Despres is terrible and Ouellet really earned a spot but I could see them going the other way on that one. Lindgren of course will be heading to Laval.
Seeing Hudon on that fifth line bugs me though. What the heck is this roster when Shaw returns? Way too many left wingers.
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3 hours ago, BCHabnut said:
So was Alzner horrible in Washington? Or was last year an especially bad year and we can hope for some sort of improvement? How can all of the Canadiens pro scouts get it that wrong? An overpayment at free agency is nothing new, but last year he played like a #6 defenseman. Can we hope for an improvement in his play and see him play as a #4 and belong there?
He was bad.
Remember how bad Mike Komisarek was after he left Montreal and didn't have Andrei Markov making him look good? That was Alzner and Carlson. Carlson has been so much better without him. Alzner hasn't been good since they removed him.
He was an iron man who played with injuries so they eventually caught up to him, which is common for players like him. His point goals with us were in line with his totals in Washington for his last season, the one without Carlson. His plus minus is drastically different because Washington was a better team that scored more.
He was a 7th defenceman in the playoffs. The head pro scout is Eric Crawford who was a laughing stock in Vancouver. Of course they scouted him, ignored how much Carlson carried him, assumed it was the other way around (people thought Markov would be exposed without Komisarek back in 2009), and that all he needed was a healthy summer.
He was a bad signing, but someone was gonna make a mistake with him. It just ended up us.
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26 minutes ago, Habopotamus said:
Not to read too much into pre season, but price's sv% through 3 games is .851... last game didn't help, but just sayin
He almost always sucks in exhibition. He is usually trying out new gear.
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9 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Bourque???
The failed prospect we traded to Winnipeg as an excuse as part of the Armia deal.
I want Left side for sure. Mete, Romanov, Harris, I'm not sure any of them are going to be a top pairing guy.
On the right side, at least Brook has that potential.
My bad on Bork.
Even so, I'm not betting on Brook. If the best offer has a RD I'll take it.
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24 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
This is beside the point, but I seem to recall them making a mistake with Ribeiro...keeping him up after training camp and burning a year on his contract by keeping him more than the minimum number of games, then sending him down
Both Fatendresse and Mikey Ribs were hardly cases of exemplary player development, I might add, even if the latter did manage to go on to have a pretty good career after being given away to Dallas.
The right move with Latendresse was staying in junior then going to the AHL but even so, in his final season he was handled improperly. He was on fire in Minnesota handled better then his career got derailed by injury.
Kotkaniemi, he could play this season but no point aside from wasting a year of ELC.
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8 minutes ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:
..I don’t believe there is any similarity to latendresse and kotkaniemi outside of them both being 2st round picks to MTL.
zero!
Nah you missed my point. The city was going crazy when Latendresse was 18 that he was a French Canadian Todd Bertuzzi. There was a ton of pressure to keep him up by media and fans. Triple what we see with Kotkaniemi. They still sent him down, but kept him up at 19 when they probably should have had him continue in junior.
Kotkaniemi has buzz and he could play in the NHL, but it's not like Latendresse, and we made the right decision then.
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19 minutes ago, Commandant said:
I agree, I would trade him to any team, including Toronto, Boston, or anyone else.
If the package is right.
My target would be a high end LHD prospect. I don't see one on Toronto, I mean i doubt they give up Dermott.
We got Juulsen, Lernout, Fleury and Brook for the right and for the left we got Mete, Bourque, Romanov, and Harris. I don't consider either that good so I'll take a quality D on either side.
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4 hours ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:
I would be shocked if the Habs let this kid leave Quebec...
Latendresse excitement was way louder and they still waited until he was 19.
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Arizona is not telling anyone. He showed no signs of injury in the last exhibition he played. Some speculate they found something and want him to heal on it instead of rushing him.