lafrous10
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Maybe we can trade gauthier to one of those teams and then once that is done make the necessary trades.
So let's send gauthier back to Anaheim and then let's move forward
Nothing gets solved if Gainey is still here.I can't stand Gauthier,but he's a scapegoat for Gainey IMO,who I believe is heavily involved in every decision,if not in charge
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Maybe we still go 7 and only dress 11 forwards thereby sitting Darche?
I'm done with the 7 dmen lineup,and I don't know why or how Darsche is even in the lineup on a nightly basis. he's been AHL-calibre,at best this year.brings nothing,and has even turned into a bit of a yapper.There was some cheap, great 4th line options available last summer that should have been brought in(Rupp,Konopka,Winchester,Eager,Torres)
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Parise you could ask permission to speak to before the trade (the Devils would have to agree).
Getzlaf, you can't sign to an extension before July 1st, 2012, so you can't even request permission before that.
Aren't they both UFA's ? If so,why would the rules be different
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Gomez looked good i agree. I would play him with Bourque and Bunden.
Is there any of the top 5 draft eligable in the draft who can play right away? I saw the top 2 russians have alot of skill, Forsberg is rated up there, i think he is a center. Anyone else?
This team needs a top end center really bad.
If they keep playing like this will be bottom 3 in no time.
IMO all the bashing of Gomez is wrong. I see him putting in as much effort nightly as anyone else on the team. The fact is that he's just not that good and has been declining for the past 3-4 years. 100% of the venom spewed at him should go to Gainey/Gauthier
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Interesting stat from this year. Price has 17 loss' this season. In 11 of those games the Habs scored 0 or 1. Basically let in 1 goal and you'll lose 65% of your games.
Now with that said Price has not been a lights out goaltender but rather slightly above average in his stats. I would like to see what he can do playing behind an NHL d-core however before judging him. None the less $7 million a year should absolutely not happen.
I don't have stats in front of me,but last I saw he was in the 20's in the important categories. That makes him below average THIS YEAR if true.I am not saying he's bad,just one of the most overrated and defended habs I've seen in my 40 + years of following the team.
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Trade Kostitsyn, Weber & Nokelainen to NYI for Matt Moulson & P.A Parenteau. Then trade Kaberle & Palushai to Edmonton for L. Smid. Trade Campolli for a pick once Markov gets back. We look like this Desharnais, Pacoiretty, Cole- Plekanec, Bourque, Parenteau- Gomez, Moulson, Moen- Eller, White, Blunden (Darche)
D- Suppan-Smid
Georges- Markov
Gill Diaz & Emelin
Another post that thinks teams are going to give us good players for our crap.
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Keep Dreaming Mike Milbury doesn't run the Islanders anymore. You are basically giving up 2 players that can barely crack our lineup and a UFA who averages 40 points a season for two top 6 fowards one of which should probably be an all-star.
For now I would just focus on trying to get whatever picks we can get for our impending free agents. This would include Kostitsyn and Moen unless we are able to resign them for a reasonable price.
Unfortunately AK is in the middle of one of his yearly disappearing act,2 goals in his last 17 games. That and being a UFA means you won't get much for this widely known inconsistent player.
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Odd it was fine for someone to wear the C when Koivu was out, but not Gionta.
That just showed managements lack of class,once again,and the disrespect it had with Koivu. Gaineys fault
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There were other teams interested in him at the time he signed as well, it's not just the Habs who had contacted him. An arbitrator also deemed him worth I believe $2.5 million which is what got him unrestricted in the first place (Chicago walked away and then offered a lesser salary). I wasn't a big fan of the signing then but with Markov's uncertainty, a 1 year (short-term) deal made sense in theory.
To keep this going (as the article won't be up for a couple more days at least), if you had your choice between a pick or a prospect, what would your preference be?
I would rather have a pick,even a 5th or 6th,as any prospect you get is going to be fringe at best. I don't believe for a minute that any other teams were interested.He signed for $1.7m here,when taking into account the taxes is like $1.5 anywhere else.He signed a week before camp. if there was interst he would have been signed before. Like I said before ,I was very disappointed they got him,when a smallish,soft dman was the last thing we needed.
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We get a big lift with the Bourque fight and Price let's in 2 goals in the first 4 shots and game over.I know it's heresy on these sites,but what has Price done in his 5 year career to deserve being called "great","a franchise player","future hall of famer.or any of the other similar accolades. Granted he had a very good REGULAR season last year,but he has one playoff series win (7 games #1 vs #8) in his time. The team stinks this year,but has he even stolen a couple of games? And we have to bring in sub-par backups just so there's no pressure in him having to battle for #1 .I really hope we don't give him that enormous contract that's been rumoured. That will set this franchise back as bad as Gomez and Markov's contracts
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I want a person with the personality of Burke; but I disagree with Burke's method.
Yes, hes done all those things, but the way he's built his team, I don't think they have the assets to take the steps between playoff contender and cup contender. He's backed himself into a corner cap wise, gave away Seguin and Hamilton, the elite young talents they'd want to add to the roster and is still missing key parts such as a number 1 centre.
I dont thnk the future of the Leafs is as rosy as the Toronto media portrays.
Toronto won't be anything more than a playoff contender for the forseeable future. But that's what it has been here for MOST of the last 20 years. I had high hopes after the 07-08 season.We don't need a rebuild or tank,just a competent management to make the right moves to adapt to the NHL.Overhaul the defense,go after Gleason hard in UFA this summer,and another tough stay at home dman.And accumulate as many picks as possible for our UFA's
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He may not be in your top 5 or 6 centers but he is mine for what he would bring to the Habs. The guy is a point per game player, 6'4-220lb, right handed shot, gold medal winner, Stanley cup champion and captain of his team. He would single-handedly change the perception of this team being a bunch of smurfs. He is having an off year, but so is the Anaheim team as a whole. Montreal hasn't had a player of his ilk since I can remember. I would trade anybody except for Price to get him. Yes, Subban has potential to be amongst the best defensemen in the league but it is just that, potential. This is all assuming that Getzlaf would sign an extension, otherwise trading for him has disaster written all over it.
I would trade Price for him,but Anaheim wouldn't as they have Hiller.
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Sorry I didn't realize it was the same guy as the Euro one. But the Euro argument is one that is a pet peeve of mine, even though I'm a proud Canadian.... I just really dislike the belief that place of birth makes you better than someone else.
As for this one.. I'm not as set on it... though i do like Pacs.
To the Rookie.... Welcome .... and stick up an avatar so we can all more easily identify you.
Um,Emelin is my favorite player,Halak was before that,Kovalev and Koivu have been also. And I'm Euro. Sorry to have facts skewer your PC opinions of people that you don't even know.If I didn't like PK,(I do) you'd be calling me a racist.Last time I reply to this subject .BTW I hate PG,and what he and Gainey(two Canadians) have done to this team.And I'm all for trading Gill,Gomez and Gionta.I'm not anti US though
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He wont be back before the end of Feb at the earliest.
Maybe he will be back in time to play for Russia in the WCs,lol
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WOAH
Thats xenophobic right there.
If the best players are from Mars those would be the players I draft.
Who cares if its a Euro or a Canadian
I don't know if you noticed, but Canadians like Patrick Marleau, Dany Heatley, Roberto Luongo, Eric Lindros, and others can be playoff chokers with no heart too.
Meanwhile I think the Red Wings are pretty pleased with their Russians and Euros over the years... guys who won like a Pavel Datsyuk, Johan Franzen, Henrik Zetterberg, Sergei Fedorov, Nic Lidstrom etc....
Hell 4 of the last 8 Conn Smythe winners are non-Canadians.
The game has changed, we aren't the exclusive owners of heart and playoff ability.... just look at how tough the battles in the World Juniors have become.
Of oourse you have no problem criticizing the French media for how they treat non frnch players and coaches.
You are the pot who is calling the kettle black here.
I'm into a winning hockey team. You can be politically correct.Good for you,I hope it makes you feel good.You can point out particular cases. Point is Bost,Chic and Pitt,last 3 cup winners have very few Euros and we consistently dress double that. RedWings are an anomaly to that,but their Euros are bigger and tougher and better than anyone elses.Plus their cup winning days seem to be in the rearview mirror. BTW I am a Euro myself,born and lived there for 15 years.Other than specific cases,they can't match North Americans grit,toughness and heart. Fact.
I think the whole Montreal media French or English are as soft as our team ever was. A bunch of buttkissers. It took a young female reporter to call out JM about using Darsche instead of Cole on the PP.
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You guys are dreaming...Campoli is a healthy scratch on one of the most injured/inexperienced defenses in the NHL. This POS will get nothing, and is headed directly to the KHL.
I couldn't believe it when they announced his signing.A small, soft journeymen d-man was the last thing this team needed. And to prove PG incompetence(once again) he gave him a raise from last years salary even though he was unsigned and feared he wasn't going to get signed (His own words)
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Before the Cammy trade 7 of our 11 forwards being dressed were over 6 foot. Now we have 8 of 11.
Price's stats don't come close to telling the whole story of the season. Put an average NHL starter in our net instead of Price, and we're probably in a battle with Columbus for last.
Price has had one excellent seaso out of 5,and won one playoff series. Good goalie,but unbelievably overated here. We are in a battle for the last 3 spots. Size doesn't matter if it isn't accompanied by toughness. Eller,AK and Nokia i wouldn't call tough,and Pacs has his moments
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The goalie always gets blamed when the team loses. His track record only buys him so much time.
This is because the most popular goalie stats are really team stats and so good goalies on bad teams inevitably have lower stats than average goalies on good teams. Amazingly, this fact has evaded the public consciousness so that even professional opinions on goalies fluctuate dramatically from month to month based on perception and only partly relevant statistics.
The moment the team becomes a contender again, Price, with the same level of play, would have better stats and be hailed as an elite goalie again, although this will probably come alongside rumours that he is a terribly inconsistent player alternating between hot and cold years.
Sounds tempting.
It actually started as a stereotype at least a decade ago. It was probably true for most of that time but it definitely isn't true anymore. I bet that even if Gionta was traded for Dustin Brown, the Habs would still be looked at as a small or at best average sized team.
Size doesn't matter if you don't use it. We are getting some size on the wings,but we're sorely lacking it on defense.Gill is tall but doesn't play big. Last off season that issue should have been addressed instead of the Diaz,Campoli and now Kaberle acquisitions.
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I heard a rumour that Markov is actually suing the organization.
I'd love that news if it meant he gets out of the contract and we get the cap relief
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I'm not sure what the CBA rules are,but I would trade PK in a heartbeat for Getzlaf or Parise,as long as we could sign them before/during the trade. We have some good young D prospect in the piupeline,but haven't had an elite center(or forward) for 20 years.
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Nice end to the weekend. Bourque looks like a good piece to the puzzle going forward. We're slowly but surely getting bigger.
Agree,now we have to do it on the back end. The only D I want to see here for next year is P.K,Gorges, and Emelin. Possibly Weber as a #7. Gill,Campoli,Kaberle and Diaz out.
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Denies rumors that
a) Price was offered 49 million over 7 years by the Habs
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b) He made a counter offer of 10 years 70 million.
he says that these offers are completely false.
Way,way too much money for a goalie. And until he can steal a playoff series or two,there is no reason to give him such a long contract. He's good,not great.He's an RFA so he's not going anywhwere. I'd give him around $5m for 2-3 yrs. Another cap strangling contract is the last thing this team needs.
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When it came to the Halak trade, I believe Gauthier had a very specific kind of player he wanted and spoke to maybe a couple teams who had that sort of player he wanted. I don't think he shopped Halak everywhere and even if he had, I don't know if he would have got a better return. He wanted a skilled center prospect with size and he got one. Quite happy with Eller. Velvet hands.
When it came to the Cammalleri trade, I think Gauthier wanted to keep it quiet that he was trying to trade him. Tell a limited amount of GMs and go with it. It was probably also done to minimize the media circus that would have come around if Gauthier publicly shopped him. I don't see Montreal getting a better return for Cammalleri for where his game was at. My problem will always be trading him mid-game against the Bruins.
I still think the Halak trade was awful,considering that the Caps got two 1st rders for Varlamov,and Halak was and is much better. Not impressed with Eller,4 goal game or not.A guy I think could bring something decent back in a trde package.
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I'd much rather take the picks and/or prospects that Gill will get me than Penner.
I don't see the point.
I don't like Penner personally, but even assuming he's a guy you want, sign him in july.
I think Gill can get you a 2nd or 3rd,based on his playoff performances the last couple years. Big no to Penner,as we have Bourque and AK,two decent size guys with very questionable work ethic
Capitals vs Habs, Jan. 18, 7:30 PM EST
in Habs & Hockey Talk
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Price isn't the problem,but he's part of it. He's let in too many soft goals this year,reminiscent of 2-3 years ago.he's been nowhere close to last year. He can do no wrong according to many .My teenage daughter thinks he's the greatest,but other than her demographic,I can't see why he's thought of as top 5 or even 10 right now.