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    Carbo fired

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    Yeah, it is that suggestion by others that ticks me off. I want Koivu gone because I BELIEVE that it will make this a better team. Somehow people connect being a fan with mindless love for Saku, or any other player. Meanwhile, they bash the hell out of Carbo. Should they not support Carbo? Would these people pout if Carbo had led this team to a cup???

    I have been a huge fan of his for years, but I am not into hero worship. I have to analyze the facts in front of me. Some people refuse to see that Koivu is on the down side, he is a tie to a terrible past, and his leadership is questionable. They can feel free to believe in Koivu if they want, but suggesting that people who don't want him are not habs fans is a joke.

    I would be very happy to see Koivu lift the cup over his head this year, but I still wouldn't sign him in the summer. Same with Kovy. I am not sure Gainey disagrees with me.. did you see him extending a contract to his mighty Captain? For all we know, he did try to trade him or Kovy, but there were no takers..

    It's rumored he's already signed. Take it for what it's worth. I hope it's true.

    Carbo fired

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    When Jean Perron took the job in 85-86 and the team had ups and downs, you think Gainey told himself "well, the coach is bad, let's go whine to the GM behind his back". Nah. He showed the way to the players by being a good soldier and following orders. That team had 8 rookies. They managed because the vets, starting with the captain, lead. And when a young buck dragged his feet or got out of line, Gainey or another strong vet with leadership would put him back in his place. Nilan kicked Richer's ass in a practice. Anyone remembers that? That's what a captain does. It's not his job to second-guess the work of the coach, it's his job to make sure every player is playing for the team and the coach.

    How do you know Bob didn't whine to the GM and get Perron fired, or Bob Berry or Boom Boom. He was close to management, I'm sure he had some complaints back then. It's pretty unfair to express such an opinion and compare it to Saku when you are clearly assuming Koivu was whining about Carbo at all in the first place. What do you base that story on anyway, link please?

    As far as Nilan kicking Richer's ass in a practice, and I quote you ''That's what a captain does? Anyone remember that?'' I find that statement really funny because you Kozed are the one who who doesn't remember when Koivu kicked Ribero's ass in practice for similar reasons. Of course you don't remember that, I mean you would have to praise Koivu's actions and I know that's hard for you to do.

    Oh but that doesn't matter because your posts only magnify things and certain players YOU don't like. Very good insight, I hope your "lurkers" don't develop opinions based on your one sided judgement calls that are based on, well your on sidedness. ^_^

    Carbo fired

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    So.. you think it is classy that the day after he helped get his coach fired, he is in the press bad mouthing him?

    Here is what he should say "We feel bad about it, clearly we are part of the problem and Carbo paid the price for all of us. We must do better and we will. We wish Carbo the best in the future". Full stop...

    Koivu knows this and knows it well. So why did he blather on and justify the firing? Because he was one of the people pushing for it. And now that he has his way, he starts playing harder. That is not captain material. They call that a mutiny in the Navy. Demers hinted at it on OTR when he said about Carbo "I am not sure if it was fair or not, but I won't say anything bad about him. When he was my Captain, he supported me as the coach". Demers may have been fired, but Carbo the Captain made sure it wasn't because the team sand bagged it on him.

    I am sorry, but there is no way Koivu should escape some responsibility for this teams character problem. It is not all his fault, and it is not all Carbo either. Carbo paid, and I believe Koivu's time is coming. Shame. I thought better of him for a lot of years.

    What did Koivu say before that? and after that? We don't know because the audio has been edited. Clearly by the sound-clips entrance it's been clipped. I doubt Koivu was flat out bagging on Carbo. He might have praised his strengths for an hour before that 30 seconds summing up his weakness. Plus this isn't the first time we heard about Carbo and lack of communication. Thank-you Saks for honesty, at least you aren't waiting to be traded to let the truth out, like most other players.

    I'd rather hear an honest answer then what I've heard from Komi who never says anything but the cliche right thing to say bullcrap, Gee thanks Komi, do you have an original, honest bone in your body? Some insight please, Oh right...."He's a proven winner and I'm just glad to be a part of the organization............. Gainey is full of crap 80% of the time when he talks to the press too.

    I don't blame them, that's just the way it goes. What bugs me is how some of you guys don't see this and take a 30 second clip and completely base judgement on an entire career. I think Koivu getting Carbo fired is the stupidest thing any of you could ever come up with. Carbo got Carbo fired, end of story. Ownership got Carbo fired not Saku. The owners could have called for Saku's head at the trade deadline, but they didn't.......and they never will.Hmmmmmmm I wonder why? I'm not going to pretend I know either like most do here.

    Usually it's the same guys that bitch about Koivu not speaking french.......who friggin cares. I hope to God the rumors are true and he's already signed. I hope we win the cup and Saku stays healthy to hoist it and his MVP trophy just so all you nay sayers can pout while your team wins the cup.

    SICKENING! is what it is.

    Game thread for tonight

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    Pretty funny. On the Sportsnet tonight the guys had a picture of Carbo and his record. There comment was that it looks more like a coach you hire not fire.

    I wonder if this was a good move at the end of the day. This smells of a "coming back to haunt us" one day big time. Boston's been bad enough with Julien. I just hope it's not Toronto one day.

    In no way was this Gainey's decision. It kind of blows actually. If it wasn't for Gainey behind the bench I don't know if I'd feel good about it at all.

    Just like that.

    Game thread for tonight

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    Posted

    Pretty funny. On the Sportsnet tonight the guys had a picture of Carbo and his record. There comment was that it looks more like a coach you hire not fire.

    I wonder if this was a good move at the end of the day. This smells of a "coming back to haunt us" one day big time. Boston's been bad enough with Julien. I just hope it's not Toronto one day.

    In no way was this Gainey's decision. It kind of blows actually. If it wasn't for Gainey behind the bench I don't know if I'd feel good about it at all.

    Carbo fired

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    Posted

    Like he was rewarded when Gainey, not Carbo, completely removed him from the team?

    I was commenting @ sb on saying Kovalev is grinning, and that the lazy burp has another thing coming if he is smiling. I got you, why you trippin??? :P

    Carbo fired

    in Habs & Hockey Talk

    Posted

    I'm sure Alex Kovalev is grinning ear-to-ear right now.

    Ya, the lazy burp got rewarded for his lazy play. No excuses now with his buddy behind the bench. 10 bucks says he gets injured within a week or two because Gainey's going work his a$$ off.

    Man I hope this wakes the boys up......

    Carbo fired

    in Habs & Hockey Talk

    Posted

    My head hurts.

    I love the idea of Gainey to coach for good, but I always was under the impression he didn't want to.

    Lever? another rookie coach?

    Come on boys, just started winning games like you mean it!

    F***K My head really hurts.

    Carbo fired

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    Posted · Edited by HABBER-oooooKNOWS

    Wasn't it only a few weeks ago that Gainey stated that the best thing he's done since becoming GM was hiring Carbo when asked by the media??????????????

    That was when? around the all star game? or the last time Gainey evaluated the year in a press conference? None the less it was 2009 so no more then 2 months ago.

    IMO this has been going on for a while and whoever has suggested this is pressure from the owners is right on the money. When Gainey made those comments I bet it was a last ditch effort to save his friend.

    Now I'm worried about one thing, Is Gainey's heart still in it? or is he just going through the motions. I hope this doesn't destroy him too and he walks at the end of the season.

    I like the idea of Gainey coaching but we all know that is not what he wants. So just for the record, I don't think this is news we should be celebrating. For those that are anyways.

    THIS IS NOT A GOOD SIGN.

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