smon Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Stealing his job? Huet's had it since before Aebischer was acquired, and Aebischer seems to have thrown away even the backup role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhale Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Stealing his job? Huet's had it since before Aebischer was acquired, and Aebischer seems to have thrown away even the backup role. They're both good goalies, we wouldn't be in the playoff race otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 You sure Aebischer would befriend the guy stealing his job? A French and a Swiss who played together in the same leagues and went to the same goalie schools in Europe... I'd think off the ice they'd hang out together, along with Streit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhale Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Kovalev is russian, let him have is opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Man do you people realize you are only speculating on something that no one in the world has even heard of and is probably all made up? Keep in mind, the media would be loving this shit if it were true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsy Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 They're both good goalies, we wouldn't be in the playoff race otherwise Ya OK. Aebi's done nothing to help out the playoff race. I'll forgive that comment, as you're new to this forum. What's funny to me, go to, for example, the RDS website. Most feel that Carbo favours the Russians and is hard on the Quebec players. Doubt this story has any value, as others have said, the Montreal media would be all over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhale Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 He is a russian , he has his opinion , but it doesn't effect what happens on the ice He is a big name player for the Habs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkned Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 (edited) If you guys can read french, go to cyberpresse.ca there are plenty of article about the Kovalev's interview. Pretty surprising infos. Mathias Brunet did some surprising digging... I mean, he called the russian journalist who confirmed she talked to Kovalev and that the article is a word-for-word print of a radio interview given by Kovalev. She (the journalist) was supposed to send the radio interview to Brunet, but then she got a call from Kovalev and suddendly backed on her word and said that there were significant differences between the printed article and the radio interview. After that, neither the journal or the radio station retruned the calls from La Presse... Wow, the captain of team russia seems to have some influence over there. If what Brunet reports is true, Kovalev shut the story from its source... a) The story was made up and Kovalev has helped them remember he has the money to sue their ass b ) The story is real and Kovalev has friends in russia who who can shut radios and journals up! Edited March 5, 2007 by Punkned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesGlorieux Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Hi guys, I know in Québec their is a big thing between french and english, but do you seriously think that an NHL coach would coachs his team based on what language you speak? This is pure... For sure a coach prefer a mix of an certain type of players, but he would get fired if anything like this would be true. I like the option a) on Punkned post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsy Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Ok, the you know what may be "hitting the fan" here in Montreal. This story is all over the radio, this may get messy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkned Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Too bad the team is out of town ahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsy Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Too bad the team is out of town ahah There in town for charity stuff, they practise here, then go to Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 What is the Gazette saying on that topic? Lapresse is saying everything is true. Le Journal is saying everything is false. Actually, there are 5-6 articles on the subject in Lapresse... All saying it's true and bashing the habs, bashing Kovalev, ripping everthing on the way... In Le Journal, the online website only has one article saying how the website wasn't a reliable one and how it looks just like Ribs fake interview from last season (was it fake? we just forgot about it... but we never got to know the truth) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 The question is: how could the Russian journalist lady make that kind of stuff up? How could she know about the cliques, the coach's style of play, all the players of the names called up, etc. There's a lot of details in that interview; lots of details. I'm surprised a journalist from Russia would know all about those little details so clearly. Looks too detailed to be a fake article. Seems to me someone opened his mouth and underestimated the determination of Habs followers to get their hands on anything Habs-related. This story blew up because of the Habs internet community (who contacted La Presse first... hehehe) ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Petrov Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 The reporting on this is all crazy. RDS maintains that the article has been withdrawn from the website, but it's still up there (follow the link on my post on the previous page). I suspect members of the Montreal media misquoted (mistranslated) Kovalev's words back to him and asked him if he said it (e.g. that Carbonneau is racist against Russians, which Kovalev never says - from the crazy auto-translation we have, Kovalev says that a lot of people in the media here say that Carbonneau does not like Russian players) and Kovalev, upon hearing their broken-telephone version of what he actually said, assumed the journalist had monkeyfingered the interview and denied saying what he actually never said. I suspect the Russian transcription of the interview is accurate. I still maintain that there's nothing inappropriate in it, though there is certainly matter for controversy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I suspect members of the Montreal media misquoted (mistranslated) Kovalev's words back to him and asked him if he said it (e.g. that Carbonneau is racist against Russians, which Kovalev never says - from the crazy auto-translation we have, Kovalev says that a lot of people in the media here say that Carbonneau does not like Russian players) and Kovalev, upon hearing their broken-telephone version of what he actually said, assumed the journalist had monkeyfingered the interview and denied saying what he actually never said. La Presse got Elena Botchorichvili & Gourami Kakhadzé to do the translation. Botchorichvili was a sports writer for 20 years back in the old USSR. I strongly doubt that they mistranslated the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 The question is: how could the Russian journalist lady make that kind of stuff up? How could she know about the cliques, the coach's style of play, all the players of the names called up, etc. I think she has an account on Habsworld and follows the Spider Man NL threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 The reporting on this is all crazy. RDS maintains that the article has been withdrawn from the website, but it's still up there (follow the link on my post on the previous page). I suspect members of the Montreal media misquoted (mistranslated) Kovalev's words back to him and asked him if he said it (e.g. that Carbonneau is racist against Russians, which Kovalev never says - from the crazy auto-translation we have, Kovalev says that a lot of people in the media here say that Carbonneau does not like Russian players) and Kovalev, upon hearing their broken-telephone version of what he actually said, assumed the journalist had monkeyfingered the interview and denied saying what he actually never said. I suspect the Russian transcription of the interview is accurate. I still maintain that there's nothing inappropriate in it, though there is certainly matter for controversy. Lapresse hired a professional to translate it, come on! What do you think? that they put it on babelfish? Here is the complete, accurate, french translation http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20070305...5128/CPSPORTS01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Quote from the article as translated by the pro hired by La Presse (translated in French): Tu essayes de faire quelque chose! L'année passée, je parlais avec les joueurs de mon trio: un Finlandais et un Tchèque. Je leur disais que ce qui m'intéressait, ce n'étaient pas les statistiques individuelles mais notre travail de groupe. Pour qu'on soit le meilleur trio et qu'on aide notre équipe à remporter les matchs. Et non que je me préoccupe seulement des buts que je marque et rien d'autre. Je dis souvent ce genre de choses aux gars avec qui je joue. J'essaye d'aider mes partenaires à changer ceci ou cela pour que notre trio soit le meilleur. J'ai toujours dit que, peu importe l'équipe pour laquelle je joue, je veux que mon trio soit le meilleur, coûte que coûte. C'est la même chose ici. Si on regarde les autres clubs, les joueurs travaillent en équipe, s'entraident. Chez nous, ils ne voient pas ça, ou ne veulent pas voir ça. Tu marques un but et c'est tout. T'as terminé ton travail pour le match et t'as même plus besoin de jouer jusqu'à la fin. "You score a goal and that's all. You've done your job for the game and you don't have to play for the rest of the game." I wonder who Kovy is alluding to in that last sentence. Seems to allude to Ryder or maybe Souray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 well both fits. In Kovalev's defense he is a much better plus minus guy then alot of the rest. Which is kind of surprising since he is so lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkned Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Carbonneau said today that he thinks the story was made-up and that Kovalev never said that. He talked to Kovalev before the morning practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Francois Gagnon's column: http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20070305...acheid=20070305 An interesting excerpt: Et un traître, on s’en débarrasse… Quand Chris Chelios a fait de l’œil à la femme d’un membre de l’état-major du Canadien, il s’est fait sacrer dehors. Quand Russ Courtnall a fait de l’œil à l’épouse d’un de ses coéquipiers du Canadien, il s’est fait sacrer dehors. Quand Rod Brind’Amour a fait de l’œil à l’épouse d’un de ses coéquipiers dans le vestiaire des Flyers de Philadelphie, il s’est retrouvé dans la Sibérie du hockey, en Caroline, où il a agonisé pendant des années avant de soulever la coupe Stanley l’an dernier Quand Mike Ribeiro a fait des propositions malhonnêtes à la fille d’un membre de l’état-major du Canadien, il s’est fait sacrer dehors lui-aussi. Bon! Dans son cas, ce n’était peut-être que la goutte qui faisait déborder la coupe… Mais ça explique pourquoi le Canadien a donné son deuxième centre pour un défenseur qui n’est pas capable de jouer régulièrement avec une équipe démunie en défense… Funny to ear that Chelios, Courtnall and Ribs were traded for "inapropriate flirting" with staff wives (or daughter in Ribs case)... Anyway, all that to make the point that Kovalev is a traitor to his team and that you trade traitors. Carbonneau said today that he thinks the story was made-up and that Kovalev never said that. He talked to Kovalev before the morning practice. Of course. Carbo will protect Kovalev publicly wither the article is true or not. Its the coach who has to do the damage control or this story will completely distract the players (like they needed it). But the staff probably is adding 1+1+1 behind the scenes and Kovy's days could be counted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkned Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Kovy's days could be counted. We'll have the confirmation/disconfirmation this summer... What's that story about Ribs anyway? I don't remember earing about it in the media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkned Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Just posted on Radio-Canada : À Montréal, un seul journal russe, le Soviet Sport, suit sur une base quotidienne les activités du Tricolore. Affecté à la couverture du Canadien, Gennady Boguslavsky n'accorde aucune crédibilité à cette histoire. « C'est complètement faux, affirme Boguslavsky à Radio-Canada Sports. Le journal qui a traduit l'entrevue n'est pas sérieux, c'est un quotidien qui cherche la controverse. » It says that only one russian journal covers the Canadien's (Soviet Sport). A journalist form Sovet Sport told Radio-Canada that Football-Hockey (the russian journal that published Kovalev's interview) isn't a serious publication and seeks controversy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Le Journal the Montreal also believes it's false... What will we have? Sensationalism and Shocking "false" news coming from LAPRESSE!!! LOL never seen before... Big ######up by lapresse IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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