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Interesting map taken from electoral-vote.com

Blue states : Both democrats would win by 5%+

Red states : Both democrats would loose by 5%+

Pink states : Clinton have a better shot than Obama

Brown : Obama have a better shot than Clinton

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Their current predictions :

Obama 269 McCain 254 Tie 15 ( North Carolina)

Clinton 289 McCain 239 Tie 10 (Wisconsin)

Their Obama prediction brings the question : What happens if the EC is tied? I think the Senate vote then.. or is it Congres.. I dont really remenber :?-

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Interesting map taken from electoral-vote.com

Blue states : Both democrats would win by 5%+

Red states : Both democrats would loose by 5%+

Pink states : Clinton have a better shot than Obama

Brown : Obama have a better shot than Clinton

20042008uslf1.jpg

Their current predictions :

Obama 269 McCain 254 Tie 15 ( North Carolina)

Clinton 289 McCain 239 Tie 10 (Wisconsin)

Their Obama prediction brings the question : What happens if the EC is tied? I think the Senate vote then.. or is it Congres.. I dont really remenber :?-

If its a tie it goes to Congress, Democrats would win because they control Congress. What a system eh?

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Now go outside and walk around wearing a dunce cap. :clap:

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People are nuts. This isn't a communist poster from the Soviet Union:

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Hey look ~ he's every color but black!

A bit neo-Socialist Realism, a bit Orwellian. Is this a real poster?

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I'm believe it or not mixed.

Obama yeah great for the country, but honestly he doesn't do it for me anymore since I've lost complete lack of faith in this country and its failed ideals. Frankly nobody in politics these days excites me and gets me excited about the world and my future. Maybe it has something to do with me finishing Orwell's Homage to Catalonia yesterday, but I'm more gloomier then ever. Obama isn't going to fix anything and I'm sick and tired of goofballs airheads on the radio just mocking him as being a left winger when he's not. I'm tired of polarization which won't ever go away in my lifetime. I'm tired and worn out from everything. My life is a waste in terms of political views. I don't mesh with anyone. Life is a lost cause, time to give up because nothing will change. The more things 'change' the more they stay the same. I'm tired of America, I'm tired of american news, american political thought, third way, neo-liberalism, conservatism, ultra conservatism, religion in politics, organized religion in its current form. I quit.

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I'm believe it or not mixed.

Obama yeah great for the country, but honestly he doesn't do it for me anymore since I've lost complete lack of faith in this country and its failed ideals. Frankly nobody in politics these days excites me and gets me excited about the world and my future. Maybe it has something to do with me finishing Orwell's Homage to Catalonia yesterday, but I'm more gloomier then ever. Obama isn't going to fix anything and I'm sick and tired of goofballs airheads on the radio just mocking him as being a left winger when he's not. I'm tired of polarization which won't ever go away in my lifetime. I'm tired and worn out from everything. My life is a waste in terms of political views. I don't mesh with anyone. Life is a lost cause, time to give up because nothing will change. The more things 'change' the more they stay the same. I'm tired of America, I'm tired of american news, american political thought, third way, neo-liberalism, conservatism, ultra conservatism, religion in politics, organized religion in its current form. I quit.

You're quitting posting social, philosophical and political posts? Well then, I'm afraid I'll have to hold you to it. :lol: Edited by Athlétique.Canadien
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lol!

no. I've just lost all passion for anything America. Something happened, don't know yet, but everything now feels pointless. No matter what party at the moment Dems, NDP, Libs etc. Yeah I can always talk about Harper et al but meh, I've lost the passion, for now.

I dunno. I'm estatic to see Neo Labour fall apart. If you want to have conversations about so called left parties falling on their swords, then I get excited. lol

New Labour

SPD in Germany

Both parties are finished, poof, done, in their current form.

If you want to talk about how more liberal David Cameron is compared to Gordon Brown. I'm up for it.

How stupid the whole Third Way is, I'm game.

How idiotic the Liberal party is on the federal level, or this so called carbon tax that doesn't do anything productive. Hit me.

But for supporting someone, I can't. As I look at my wall, god damn I live in a time period, everyone is dead. Where's that time machine.

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....I'm tired of....
You're tired eh? Maybe tired of stuff like this?

Grumbling Clinton supporters make Democrats nervous - 20% of Democrat vote may go to McCain

CNN - A newly released CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll found that if Obama does not select Clinton as his running mate, 22 percent of her supporters would stay home this fall -- and another 17 percent would vote for McCain.

It translates to 40% of the Clinton vote might be defecting to McCain either directly, or staying home in November. If we are to assume that the Dem's popular vote is 50% Obama and 50% Clinton in these primary's (crude calcuation) then Clinton's 40% leads to a 20% Democratic party vote erosion to McCain.

So, let me get this straight. Here you have Blue minded voters who want to go red becasue they don't like the nominee. So much for the good of the party. :blink:

What is wrong with people? :angry:

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Whiney 50-60 year old feminist women who will just hold up their nose and vote Obama is the 20

The 17 percent is the folks who always go republican and they live in states like kentucky.

I don't trust any polls from the cable networks.

During the primaries

Fox - lunatic fringe as usual

msnbc- obama

cnn- clinton

If its NBC/CBS/ABC done poll, those are the good ones.

Anything that is done in house by the cable news networks is more or less partisan.

Americans are mostly full of shit anyway when it comes to politics. Most of the English world is for that matter. Brainwashed by backwardness conservatism whilst they sing "Obama the Magic Negro" on the radio.

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Phrases that need to be banned from politics

"white working class voters"

"white women"

for the love of god, what the ###### is wrong in this country. Is this how the media is going to shape this century in this ultra-conservative country? White people are now a racist voting bloc apparently afraid of the non whites. You know forget the minorities persuade those anti-immigrant white folks. Be white as possible.

seriously. I can't take this crap anymore.

I could care less about white people, white people suck. "white working class" what the hell is this racist undertone crap.

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wow your elections are like 100 times better than Canada. It's a real soap opera full of trashtalk, lies, defamation, etc. The best if FoxNews guys. They called Michelle Obama "baby mama", said she used the word "whittey", associated this act (see picture) with terrorism, joked about killing Obama, etc.

Seriously this is pathetic, all these "journalists" should be fired right away. How a tv channel can have some prejudice like that and SHOWS IT THAT HARD ?

bildece6.jpg - a terrorist-jab ???

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wow your elections are like 100 times better than Canada. It's a real soap opera full of trashtalk, lies, defamation, etc. The best if FoxNews guys. They called Michelle Obama "baby mama", said she used the word "whittey", associated this act (see picture) with terrorism, joked about killing Obama, etc.

Seriously this is pathetic, all these "journalists" should be fired right away. How a tv channel can have some prejudice like that and SHOWS IT THAT HARD ?

bildece6.jpg - a terrorist-jab ???

Fox News represents about 30 million people or so who listen to right wing racist radio. Like Limbaugh's Obama the Magic Negro song.

Fox News isn't news.

Fox News is why I can't live in America and the overall scene in this country is of toxic hate and screaming idiots.

Sadly though, the Conservative Party seems to take up these tactics of polarization with their constant attack of the opposition like they're in the opposition. This is classic Republican Party post '94. Hate, Hate, Hate, scream, scream, scream, scream, attack, attack, attack, demoralization to polarization.

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