KoZed Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 I'm bored, just felt like starting a thread about what lines we could have once Lats comes back. But make it serious. Dont put guys out of place just for the heck of it, know what I mean? I'd go with: Tanguay - Plekanec - Kovalev Higgins - Koivu - Kostitsyn Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos Pacioretty - Metropolit - Dagostini Or to have some toughness on each line... Pacioretty - Plekanec - Kovalev Latendresse - Koivu - Tanguay Higgins - Lapierre - Kostopoulos Stewart - Metropolit - Kostitsyn Of the "all your eggs in the same basket" stuff... Tanguay - Koivu - Kovalev Higgins - Plekanec - Kostitsyn Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos Pacioretty - Metropolit - Dagostini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Pacioretty - Plekanec - Kovalev Tanguay - Koivu - Kostitsyn Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos Higgins - Metropolit - Dandenault PPK was proven to work, TKK has never been tried from what I remember, LLK was proven to work, and HMD is a dark horse line of "constant effort, no finish" that may or may not put up points. Getting Kostitsyn on the freaking RW is the main point. Separating our two best puckhandlers in Kovalev and Kostsitsyn gives you better line options, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 I'm bored, just felt like starting a thread about what lines we could have once Lats comes back. But make it serious. Dont put guys out of place just for the heck of it, know what I mean? I'd go with: Tanguay - Plekanec - Kovalev Higgins - Koivu - Kostitsyn Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos Pacioretty - Metropolit - Dagostini I'd vote for this one but would put whoever can hold a stick instead of d'Agostini-14 Pacioretty - Plekanec - Kovalev Tanguay - Koivu - Kostitsyn Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos Higgins - Metropolit - Dandenault PPK was proven to work, TKK has never been tried from what I remember, LLK was proven to work, and HMD is a dark horse line of "constant effort, no finish" that may or may not put up points. Getting Kostitsyn on the freaking RW is the main point. Separating our two best puckhandlers in Kovalev and Kostsitsyn gives you better line options, in my opinion. oh, oh that's good, that's good. I cancel my vote to Kozed. Demote frikkin Higgins to the 4th until he learns to shoot (7.55% success :puke: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Pacioretty - Plekanec - Kovalev Tanguay - Koivu - Kostitsyn Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos Higgins - Metropolit - Dandenault PPK was proven to work, TKK has never been tried from what I remember, LLK was proven to work, and HMD is a dark horse line of "constant effort, no finish" that may or may not put up points. Getting Kostitsyn on the freaking RW is the main point. Separating our two best puckhandlers in Kovalev and Kostsitsyn gives you better line options, in my opinion. I 100% endorse this lineup, and I've always thought that Kosty plays better sans-Kovy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 You know what's really sad? You look at pretty much any lineup created here with the potential skill-set available, and you just have to say that this should be a very complete group of forwards. If everyone played anywhere close to potential, we should be competitive every night, and downright scary on a great many nights. Incidentally, I think Trizzard's lines are nicely balanced. Having said that, Koz's first combo is also a strong one. What I'd personally like to see is a coach who can choose lines AND STICK WITH THEM FOR MORE THAN ONE SHIFT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycing Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Pacioretty - Plekanec - Kovalev Tanguay - Koivu - Kostitsyn Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos Higgins - Metropolit - Dandenault This is very close to what I want to see. It allows Carbo to roll 4 lines and *theoretically* not have to worry about defenisve zone coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 What I'd personally like to see is a coach who can choose lines AND STICK WITH THEM FOR MORE THAN ONE SHIFT. I dont really get that. Kosty-Plex-Kovy have been together most of the season. Higgins-Koivu are always together. Laps & Kosto have been together since December. Can't fault the coach if injuries screw things up or players take the season off (Sergei Kostitsyn). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Pacioretty - Plekanec - Kovalev Tanguay - Koivu - Kostitsyn Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos Higgins - Metropolit - Dandenault PPK was proven to work, TKK has never been tried from what I remember, LLK was proven to work, and HMD is a dark horse line of "constant effort, no finish" that may or may not put up points. Getting Kostitsyn on the freaking RW is the main point. Separating our two best puckhandlers in Kovalev and Kostsitsyn gives you better line options, in my opinion. and the winner is : TRIZZAK http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/270690.html Since lats is not here yet, Higgins replaces him on the 3rd and since O'Byrne sucks, Dandy plays D so the 4th is made up of Stewart - Metro - D'Ago http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/270690.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 (edited) I can't think of a better line that what Carbo had on that two man advantage yesterday.... I mean Metropolit-Koivu-Kovolev.... can any line possibly have more promise then that line?? Edited March 7, 2009 by hab29RETIRED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 and the winner is : TRIZZAK http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/270690.html Since lats is not here yet, Higgins replaces him on the 3rd and since O'Byrne sucks, Dandy plays D so the 4th is made up of Stewart - Metro - D'Ago http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/270690.html Seriously, was talking to my bro yesterday and I was bitching at Carbo for 1. not giving a bigger role to Pax (check!) and not splitting Kost from Kov (check!) so, kuddos to Carbo for listening to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABBER-oooooKNOWS Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Pacioretty - Plekanec - Kovalev Tanguay - Koivu - Kostitsyn Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos Higgins - Metropolit - Dandenault PPK was proven to work, TKK has never been tried from what I remember, LLK was proven to work, and HMD is a dark horse line of "constant effort, no finish" that may or may not put up points. Getting Kostitsyn on the freaking RW is the main point. Separating our two best puckhandlers in Kovalev and Kostsitsyn gives you better line options, in my opinion. Are you Carbo? According to RDS this is what Carbo has going on today and I must say I like it. Tanguay-Koivu-A.Kostitsyn Pacioretty-Plekanec-Kovalev Higgins-Lapierre-Kostopoulos Stewart-Metro-D'Agostini PER RDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABBER-oooooKNOWS Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 and the winner is : TRIZZAK http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/270690.html Since lats is not here yet, Higgins replaces him on the 3rd and since O'Byrne sucks, Dandy plays D so the 4th is made up of Stewart - Metro - D'Ago http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/270690.html Wow, posted an hour before me. Maybe I refresh the thread next time before making my post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 Are you Carbo? According to RDS this is what Carbo has going on today and I must say I like it. Tanguay-Koivu-A.Kostitsyn Pacioretty-Plekanec-Kovalev Higgins-Lapierre-Kostopoulos Stewart-Metro-D'Agostini PER RDS Carbo must be reading our board. I've been clamoring that Kosty always looks better on the RW and away from Kovy. Hopefully it'll work out with Saku. It should because Kosty loves to carry the puck and Saku can't do it anymore, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Carbo must be reading our board. I've been clamoring that Kosty always looks better on the RW and away from Kovy. Hopefully it'll work out with Saku. It should because Kosty loves to carry the puck and Saku can't do it anymore, Same here, and Hinsideout has quoted a Hfboards poster who has been "clamoring" that for a while over there too. He was quoted because he came out with actual stats... the stats are approx as follows : Kost without kovalev : 20 pts in 19 games Kost with Kovalev : 13 pts in 30 games. (it's really approximate... but just to tell you, the ratio is 1ppg away from Kov. and 0.3 ppg when lined with Kov.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 Same here, and Hinsideout has quoted a Hfboards poster who has been "clamoring" that for a while over there too. He was quoted because he came out with actual stats... the stats are approx as follows : Kost without kovalev : 20 pts in 19 games Kost with Kovalev : 13 pts in 30 games. (it's really approximate... but just to tell you, the ratio is 1ppg away from Kov. and 0.3 ppg when lined with Kov.) Those stats dont really surprises me. Kosty is like Kovy and a whole bunch of other protoypical Russian wingers: (Kovalchuk, Semin, Ovie, ec.) as in they are brought up to play on their off-wing (ie. right shot on the LW, left shot on the RW) because they'll use their speed to cut in front of the net and have a better shot. N-American style is the opposite. Because in the defensive/neutral zone your stick side has to board-side so you dont have to turn around to clear the puck. That's one of the reasons why Latendresse, who came in the NHL as a RW, was moved to the LW. And Kosty too. But both are way more comfortable offensively on the RW because its more natural for them, they can give themselves way more options to shoot or pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFT77 Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Here is what i would do: Pacioretty/Plekanec/Kovalev Tanguay/Koivu/A.Kostitsyn Latendresse/Lapierre/Kostopolous Higgins/Chipchura/S.Kostitsyn Dandy, Stewart and Metro spares, with Diago sent down to Hamilton I realize Chips and SK are in Hamilton right now, but SK brings much more to the table than any of the above. Could try Higgins at centre with Stewart on the wing for more grit. With all the criticism about SK, i would have to say that he's produced as much as Higgins and he's just in his 2nd full year. Also SK brings the Habs some much needed grit and is usually pretty reliable on the backcheck. Liked the way Pax played with Pleks and Kovy earlier. Another thought is this: Pax/Pleks/Kovy Tangs/Koivu/Lats AKosty/Laps/S.Kosty Higgins/Chips/Kostopolo Lats seemed to play good with them when Higgins was out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABBER-oooooKNOWS Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 (edited) Carbo must be reading our board. I've been clamoring that Kosty always looks better on the RW and away from Kovy. Hopefully it'll work out with Saku. It should because Kosty loves to carry the puck and Saku can't do it anymore, You know what's funny, I've heard Carbo using words in interviews that I've read throughout the day on boards. Can't remember any off the top of my head but it happens often, stuff he doesn't usually say too. I saw the Atlanta game a row back from the home team corner. I have to say Saku looked good in real life. He is a little bull. Compared to even Komi and O.B, Saku's legs and calves are huge!!!!! I couldn't believe it. Amazing in the face off circle, my eyes couldn't even see what he was doing to win all the time. So much finesse once the puck bounces up. Anyways, I hear you Kozed on how you think he looks worn, but the whole team is dry and lifeless. I think he's got juice left in the tank and he'll come out of it once we get rolling. If we get rolling. He doesn't have a very heavy shot that's for sure, but he looked really good up close. Kovalchuk? Wow.......if we could get him somehow? He dances when he skates with the puck at top speed. It's actually kind of freaky. Kovalev has giant leaps on everyone too. But even in warm-ups all he did was hit posts. I like these new lines. I just wish we had that bonafide C that everyone could follow production wise. Our boys just aren't naturals at putting the puck in the net. Edited March 7, 2009 by HABBER-oooooKNOWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Are you Carbo? According to RDS this is what Carbo has going on today and I must say I like it. Tanguay-Koivu-A.Kostitsyn Pacioretty-Plekanec-Kovalev Higgins-Lapierre-Kostopoulos Stewart-Metro-D'Agostini PER RDS Those lines look better, but I'd flip kosto and dago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy Ryder Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Are you Carbo? According to RDS this is what Carbo has going on today and I must say I like it. Tanguay-Koivu-A.Kostitsyn Pacioretty-Plekanec-Kovalev Higgins-Lapierre-Kostopoulos Stewart-Metro-D'Agostini PER RDS Ouch i would not like to be called names like that in Montreal. Hey Carbo ! just juggle the lines again, that will save the year. The solution will come in the last stretch, you had 63 games to figure lines. It's just getting funnier everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 I saw the Atlanta game a row back from the home team corner. I have to say Saku looked good in real life. He is a little bull. Compared to even Komi and O.B, Saku's legs and calves are huge!!!!! I couldn't believe it. The guys under 6-0 have no choice. To stay on their skates when they've got a 6-4, 220 pound lean on them they need to have tree trunks for legs. Ever seen Bouillon's legs? The guy isnt called Cube for nothing. Anyway, my point wasnt that Koivu looks worn, just that he doesnt carry the puck anymore. Injuries chipped away at his speed but most of all at his agility. He cant spin on a dime like he used to and that was what his game was about. I believe that's the main reason why now he's less effective when pressured and more prone to caught up the puck. He needs space and time he can't create for himself. Having a guy like Kosty who can draw 1, 2 defenders on his with his speed should help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 The guys under 6-0 have no choice. To stay on their skates when they've got a 6-4, 220 pound lean on them they need to have tree trunks for legs. Ever seen Bouillon's legs? The guy isnt called Cube for nothing. Anyway, my point wasnt that Koivu looks worn, just that he doesnt carry the puck anymore. Injuries chipped away at his speed but most of all at his agility. He cant spin on a dime like he used to and that was what his game was about. I believe that's the main reason why now he's less effective when pressured and more prone to caught up the puck. He needs space and time he can't create for himself. Having a guy like Kosty who can draw 1, 2 defenders on his with his speed should help. Petrov's abs were impressive... almost body-builder quality... that sounds gay, but I mean, I couldn't help but notice it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 Petrov's abs were impressive... almost body-builder quality... that sounds gay, but I mean, I couldn't help but notice it... Theoren Fleury's legs were just inhuman. Each of his tighs was almost as big as his torso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Theoren Fleury's legs were just inhuman. Each of his tighs was almost as big as his torso. that's because he had the torso of a 5'6" guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABBER-oooooKNOWS Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 The guys under 6-0 have no choice. To stay on their skates when they've got a 6-4, 220 pound lean on them they need to have tree trunks for legs. Ever seen Bouillon's legs? The guy isnt called Cube for nothing. Anyway, my point wasnt that Koivu looks worn, just that he doesnt carry the puck anymore. Injuries chipped away at his speed but most of all at his agility. He cant spin on a dime like he used to and that was what his game was about. I believe that's the main reason why now he's less effective when pressured and more prone to caught up the puck. He needs space and time he can't create for himself. Having a guy like Kosty who can draw 1, 2 defenders on his with his speed should help. I hope that line works sooooooooo bad. Kosto and Tangs should rejuvenate our worn out little Captain. Since we are talking about body mass, Andrei is pretty friggin big too. He looks a lot bigger then Komi when they stand next to each other even though Komi has 4 inches and 40 pounds on him. I bet Boullion is thick, but I always thought they called him the Cube because of the Knorr Beef Boullion Cubes. Well I'm sure it's a bit of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 that's because he had the torso of a 5'6" guy 5'5" torso is still wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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