BTH Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I would keep him around unless a decent trade possibility arises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvvrob Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 there were stretches when i thought he looked real good vs. Atlanta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 there were stretches when i thought he looked real good vs. Atlanta Me too: when he was on the bench. Joking aside, the 4th line got much less ice-time vs ATL, which might have helped Chips not look bad as much. I dont really know what to think of him. I'm scared of losing him and see him become another Craig Conroy; but I also dont want to keep watching him turn Jason Ward on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iron Lung Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Let the guy play for few months. Let the guy get comfortable. Everything is now, now, now these days... patience pays off. Look at the Leafs... they never wait for potential and look where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Chips has been making me look bad for my previously contemptuous dismissal of him. I still think the whole fourth line is benefiting from the last change at home ice (the real test will come on the road), but credit where due - he's looked legit the last couple of games. Here's hoping he can keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Chips has been making me look bad for my previously contemptuous dismissal of him. I still think the whole fourth line is benefiting from the last change at home ice (the real test will come on the road), but credit where due - he's looked legit the last couple of games. Here's hoping he can keep it up. his face off stats are sad, lets bring carbo back to teach him how to win a face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Chips has been making me look bad for my previously contemptuous dismissal of him. I still think the whole fourth line is benefiting from the last change at home ice (the real test will come on the road), but credit where due - he's looked legit the last couple of games. Here's hoping he can keep it up. See: Coaching and Developing Skills; Martin, Jacques. Also: Failed Development: If Only They'd Had a Real Coach; Higgins, Christopher, Komisarek, Michael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) See: Coaching and Developing Skills; Martin, Jacques. Also: Failed Development: If Only They'd Had a Real Coach; Higgins, Christopher, Komisarek, Michael. he is gone guys why do you have to keep kicking Guy he is a good guy. the team has been changed and not by jm but by BBG and ya know I would not be surprised if Guy Carboneau doesn't come back and bite us in the ass like a lot of former coaches have. ok and some players too BUT not chris higgins komi or koivu 2 assists? Edited October 25, 2009 by habs rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 See: Coaching and Developing Skills; Martin, Jacques. Also: Failed Development: If Only They'd Had a Real Coach; Higgins, Christopher, Komisarek, Michael. So that season when Komisarek was leading the league in hits and blocked shots wasnt Carbo's fault; but last season's scary cat Komisarek after Lucic hurt him was Carbo's fault. Got it. Nice try Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 So that season when Komisarek was leading the league in hits and blocked shots wasnt Carbo's fault; but last season's scary cat Komisarek after Lucic hurt him was Carbo's fault. Got it. Nice try Colin. point KOZED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 point KOZED This is a competition? *smirk* I wasn't thinking about *any* particular coach when I was saying they didn't have a coach. Didn't they go through a few? Including Gainey? My point is that the Habs now have a REAL coach. And that's not a slag at Carbo either. I said from the beginning of his tenure that he looks like he's going to be a great coach. He has the skills. He just needs EXPERIENCE. He was a rookie coach in Montreal and therefore had a lot to learn. I mean, where was his head coaching experience at ANY level? ...and as for blocked shots and hits? That's all Komi knows how to do at this point! Get in the shooting lane, and head hunt looking for the game changer. He did those things exceedingly well. Someone needed to teach him how to pass and how to play within a system, though. Carbo failed in that respect. But so did all his coaches before that. In fact, I'd say that was LESS on Carbo than on the NO EXPERIENCE guys who preceeded them. Er.... enjoy the competition, but I'm withdrawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycing Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 No points can be awarded to a participant if the point made is not on topic with the thread's theme (i.e. Chipchura). Chips had a solid game last night - he just needs adequate wingers and the opportunity to play a few games consecutively to get in a groove. Latendresse and D'Agostini are upgrades on Laraque, for sure. Our third line (Metro & Moen) was invisible last night, and our "4th" benefited, getting significant icetime late in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 No points can be awarded to a participant if the point made is not on topic with the thread's theme (i.e. Chipchura). Chips had a solid game last night - he just needs adequate wingers and the opportunity to play a few games consecutively to get in a groove. Latendresse and D'Agostini are upgrades on Laraque, for sure. Our third line (Metro & Moen) was invisible last night, and our "4th" benefited, getting significant icetime late in the game. But... but... I want my points!!!! They told me when I had 10,000 of them I could exchange them for a Colin doll. When you pull on the string it says things like "When I grow up I will marry Saku Koivu" or "Oooooooh Carbooooo is mean ugly coooach"! Kidding aside, Chips' game last night was his best in the NHL in over 2 years, so I'll wait a bit to see if he is indeed getting into a groove and finally hitting his stride or not. You dont make up for everything with 1 game. Brunet called the Metro and Chips lines 3a and 3b, which is probably true now that the Kid Line played better than the M&M line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'll reiterate what I said in the game thread. Kyle played 5:11 in a game where we had half the Bulldog squad on the ice. I think his days are numbered, and I don't think he plays the style of game Martin wants. It seems blatantly obvious to me that, at this point in time, he's already been passed by White and Pyatt, and even Wyman and Desharnais had more ice time last night. I think it's unfortunate, but his injuries and his (lack of) growth in the previous developmental system have seriously stunted his potential NHL career. I suspect strongly that Bob is trying to find a trade and when the Habs get healthy, my guess is that something will happen in this regard. Unless he's dealing with an undisclosed injury, we're talking about a "defensive forward" who's played 17 games, is a -8, doesn't have a point to his name, and is either benched or barely played. 6'2, 204: good size for the game, but he just doesn't have it - and his skating has even improved from previous years. Shame, but I think it's just about time to categorize him as "bust" at least within the Montreal organization. Change of scenery - at least - required, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Yeah, he's done with the Habs. He had a very strong season last year in the AHL, but his game doesn't translate to the NHL it seems. If some value can be fetched, it should be done when enough bodies are healthy that he isn't needed anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'll reiterate what I said in the game thread. Kyle played 5:11 in a game where we had half the Bulldog squad on the ice. I think his days are numbered, and I don't think he plays the style of game Martin wants. It seems blatantly obvious to me that, at this point in time, he's already been passed by White and Pyatt, and even Wyman and Desharnais had more ice time last night. I think it's unfortunate, but his injuries and his (lack of) growth in the previous developmental system have seriously stunted his potential NHL career. I suspect strongly that Bob is trying to find a trade and when the Habs get healthy, my guess is that something will happen in this regard. Unless he's dealing with an undisclosed injury, we're talking about a "defensive forward" who's played 17 games, is a -8, doesn't have a point to his name, and is either benched or barely played. 6'2, 204: good size for the game, but he just doesn't have it - and his skating has even improved from previous years. Shame, but I think it's just about time to categorize him as "bust" at least within the Montreal organization. Change of scenery - at least - required, IMO. Good description of Chipchura. It's unfortunate, cause that's another young guy that we've drafted, and we haven't been able to groom him for the NHL! 3-4 years ago, everyone agreed that the Habs had the 2nd best crop of youngsters in its farmsystem. Today that is no longer the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KoZed Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 So. How many more chances are we giving this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 So. How many more chances are we giving this guy? We? None. Martin? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Well, I think we can successfully close this thread. Well done, boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 Farewell Kyle Thread closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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