JoeLassister Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I was not saying the same thing about D'Agi. Glad to hear it. But for me, both situations are IDENTICALS ! Enough of rushing players in the NHL when they look good after 2 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I don't think they are the same at all, Subban has been an above average player everywhere he has been including the AHL. You can't teach his skating ability, agility on his skates and his ability to move the puck. I'm not saying rush him, but he will be on the team next year. D'Agi probably dominated in pee wee's or something, was a late pick, and other then a 5 game stretch is pretty much worthless. If he were waived i doubt any one even picks him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markierung Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Gill, perhaps. But who will pay $3.8M/yr for two more years (a contract that CANNOT come of the books) for a defender who is seriously struggling and may even retire (contract remains on the books as he was signed O-35)? If... IF he's tradeable, it's only if WE put in the added incentive. Otherwise, that contract will be on our books for the next two years. Put it this way - if you were GM of any other team in the league, would you want Spacek? Take your time, look at all the teams, and then answer that question. If he is about to retire, he's even easier to move. Team's that need to make the floor would love a retiring player. You don't have to pay them and they count against the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 If he is about to retire, he's even easier to move. Team's that need to make the floor would love a retiring player. You don't have to pay them and they count against the cap. Well, find that team and you've got one that Gauthier is speaking to. Getting a deal done is another thing. Montreal would have to send added value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKross Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Spacek> I seem to remember a guy who was brought into Toronto because of his credentials, late in his career; who struggled mightly. That same player went to Detroit and had pretty damn good success. I believe with all the injuries Spacek was put into a position which has not been in his comfort zone. I still believe he is a good player. HOLY MURPHY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Spacek> I seem to remember a guy who was brought into Toronto because of his credentials, late in his career; who struggled mightly. That same player went to Detroit and had pretty damn good success. I believe with all the injuries Spacek was put into a position which has not been in his comfort zone. I still believe he is a good player. HOLY MURPHY Well, there's also the whole Toronto vs Detroit quality difference too. I'm sure Spacek would look a lot better with a lot more support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I don't think they are the same at all, Subban has been an above average player everywhere he has been including the AHL. You can't teach his skating ability, agility on his skates and his ability to move the puck. I'm not saying rush him, but he will be on the team next year. D'Agi probably dominated in pee wee's or something, was a late pick, and other then a 5 game stretch is pretty much worthless. If he were waived i doubt any one even picks him up. Well, about their impression in the NHL, so far they are the same. The last thing I want for P.K. is to see him turn out being booed because he was rushed... If that mean to finish the season in the AHL, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I kind of want P.K. chomping at the bit, thinking he hasn't made the team at training camp. That's how I like guys making teams. Mid-season callups seem to get comfortable in year 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Habs fans boo everyone, he will be booed. I guess the only thing he has going for him is he isn't a goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 PK's style makes me a little nervous. He will get caught and he will get booed. There is no question. He is fun to watch though. I think we finally have a right handed stud defenseman in the making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 PK's style makes me a little nervous. He will get caught and he will get booed. There is no question. He is fun to watch though. I think we finally have a right handed stud defenseman in the making. I watched him in Hamilton a bit a month plus ago, and there's no question but that he has excellent skills. But there's got to be a reason why he's been kept to mature in the Dog house. I have to assume its the defensive side of his game, but that 's just a guess. I think they should bring him up when he's ready, today or next year; not my responsibility , or my call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 He is +29 or something, doesn't sound like much of a gambler to me, The habs regular D aren't a combined +29. There are way more problems then him on the blue line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 The habs D do not gamble and STILL give up plenty of breakaways, odd man rushes. Since they are going to give up those chances, should at least try to be offensive in doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Yea, i'm not sure how having a good skating dman who can carry the puck out of the zone is a bad thing, but that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Yea, i'm not sure how having a good skating dman who can carry the puck out of the zone is a bad thing, but that's just me. You want two of those? Well now you're just getting greedy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Who is the other one? Markov is an passing, offennsive machine in the offensive zone but i wouldn't say he is a puck moving Dman, he rarely skates the puck out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Hammer on the occassion will lead the puck out, although this is a fair and far between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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