Guest Stogey24 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'd do Mike Green for Alexei Emelin. I know wrong thread, but I'd rather go hard after Myers. Emelin and a first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I know wrong thread, but I'd rather go hard after Myers. Emelin and a first For one, Emelin wouldn't waive to go to Buffalo. Also, the asking price is much, much, much higher, assuming it's still what it was earlier in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 For one, Emelin wouldn't waive to go to Buffalo. Also, the asking price is much, much, much higher, assuming it's still what it was earlier in the year. Oh ya, forgot about his clause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Hard to imagine the Caps trading Green while getting geared up for the playoffs but stranger things have happened I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Hard to imagine the Caps trading Green while getting geared up for the playoffs but stranger things have happened I guess. That's why I suggested Emelin. It'd hurt their offensive production but Trotz would probably enjoy a banger like Emelin in his defence. Probably enjoy him more than Orpik... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 He's a pending UFA and has fallen out of the top-4 in Washington. Given that and his cap hit (which is quite high, mid-6 I believe), they won't get the moon. The full Hab-related blurb from Garrioch for those wondering: http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/01/31/arizona-coyotes-are-open-for-business-but-opposing-gms-wont-find-many-bargains?token=f46bc3c9f11b1e1ad5f8815d4caabe1f For those wondering about Vermette/O'Reilly, take a look at the reported asking prices in there. Yikes. For O'Reilly-Tinordi, Beaulieu, Gallagher and a first. What a joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuternoga Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 For O'Reilly-Tinordi, Beaulieu, Gallagher and a first. What a joke! ROR - 27 pts Our Gally - 26 pts + 200% heart every game shift It's more than joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 That's why I suggested Emelin. It'd hurt their offensive production but Trotz would probably enjoy a banger like Emelin in his defence. Probably enjoy him more than Orpik... I get that Emelin is overpaid, but his value has to be measured as the intensity of games increases. He is the only defenceman we possess who can be a physical force - you only have to remember how much he aggravated the Boston Bruins last spring to understand what he can bring. His absence will leave a huge void in terms of D-zone toughness. I wouldn't be in a hurry to move him UNTIL Tinordi reaches the point that Beaulieu has reached, i.e., a roster regular who is taking substantial minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I get that Emelin is overpaid, but his value has to be measured as the intensity of games increases. He is the only defenceman we possess who can be a physical force - you only have to remember how much he aggravated the Boston Bruins last spring to understand what he can bring. His absence will leave a huge void in terms of D-zone toughness. I wouldn't be in a hurry to move him UNTIL Tinordi reaches the point that Beaulieu has reached, i.e., a roster regular who is taking substantial minutes. How much is he really overpaid? One million? That's not enough for a bad deal to try to get out of. He's a third pairing guy on a contender, number four on a playoff team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 How much is he really overpaid? One million? That's not enough for a bad deal to try to get out of. He's a third pairing guy on a contender, number four on a playoff team. He's also a guy that shown to be valuable in the playoffs. I wouldn't move him unless it is for a a significant upgrade that will be a long-term solution for the top 4D or top 6 forwards. Myers is really the only available Dman i'd consider moving him for and i know we disagree, but if Emelin didn't have a no-move clause, i'd try to use him in a deal for Yakapov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 We may need a #1RW, but should Sekac be given the opportunity in the next few weeks? It makes sense to do it..maybe we already have our guy, and then we can focus on other move(s)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 We may need a #1RW, but should Sekac be given the opportunity in the next few weeks? It makes sense to do it..maybe we already have our guy, and then we can focus on other move(s)? Sekac should not be our #1RW, nor should Gallagher or Weise be that player. My ideal RW line would be something like : 1. Vanek caliber player 2. Gallagher 3. Sekac 4. Weise Parenteau is the one we should try to move, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I agree with that, but until we pick up someone else we only one galleghar. If he isn't playing on the #1, you still need to have someone there. Weisse shoild not even be a consideration. Sekac should not be our #1RW, nor should Gallagher or Weise be that player. My ideal RW line would be something like : 1. Vanek caliber player 2. Gallagher 3. Sekac 4. Weise Parenteau is the one we should try to move, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It may be a bit of a stretch and especially because he isn't doing much this year. What about Ryder? he shoots a lot, decent size, on a 1 year deal and won't cost anything to get him. I just don't see MB letting any real good young talent go. Which he will need to do to get a legit top 6 player or top5 dman. Next year he only needs to sign Galchenyuk and should be pretty good against the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It may be a bit of a stretch and especially because he isn't doing much this year. What about Ryder? he shoots a lot, decent size, on a 1 year deal and won't cost anything to get him. I just don't see MB letting any real good young talent go. Which he will need to do to get a legit top 6 player or top5 dman. Next year he only needs to sign Galchenyuk and should be pretty good against the cap. I like the idea of getting Ryder as I think it will be difficult for Bergevin to swoop in under the radar to grab the player teams are looking for i.e., Vermette for a second year in a row--without surrendering a lot. I also hate the idea of us sacrificing a ton of young potential for a rental. Ryder should be cheap and generally does well in Montreal so he would be a safe option for veteran depth. It would be great is PAP could recover his health and his scoring touch and/or be moved for a more productive player, but I don't see that happening at this point unless he gets back on the ice soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Rumour I saw noted; was de la Rose & 2nd pick for Vermette, Bergevin turned it down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Rumour I saw noted; was de la Rose & 2nd pick for Vermette, Bergevin turned it down? If so I'm glad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Is Emelin the new whipping boy here? Hahahaha We finally have grit on the back end and people want to trade him for Mike Green? LOL And then after that would-be trade those same people would say we were too soft at the back. Emelin isn't overpaid. And he's required. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Grit is useless if it's doing nothing to keep the opposition from scoring on you. Emelin gives up far more scoring opportunities than he prevents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Maybe Emelin simply needs a good puck mover partnered with him and not a Weaver-Gilbert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Maybe Emelin simply needs a good puck mover partnered with him and not a Weaver-Gilbert? He started the year with Subban. We hated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 OK, don't remember that, so that theory is shot to hell. Well he still is best hitter on team and liked the Tootoo hit, just touch late (and most would say ill-advised at the time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 OK, don't remember that, so that theory is shot to hell. Well he still is best hitter on team and liked the Tootoo hit, just touch late (and most would say ill-advised at the time) I think the brain trust that is the coaching staff of Le Genius are trying to get Emelin to play a different style of play than what we recruited. That takes time and a lot of errors to happen. They want him to be a more stay at home defenceman, who does not get caught out of position on a hit. It is why we seldom see PK throw big hits anymore. I am not saying this is a bad thing, I am just saying it takes time to adapt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I really don't think Emelin has been that bad, I do believe he should be no higher than 5-6, or 3rd pairing, but I still like the fact he is back there when we play bigger teams. He is tough, and the best hitter we have, I'm in no hurry to move him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Dreger's latest on the Habs...he suggests they've considered a D for D trade with a few teams so far and that they're seeking a top-six forward. And naturally, a response to the question about Montreal on a Montreal radio station can't be complete without some sort of mention about the Leafs before really talking about the Canadiens. http://www.nicholsonhockey.com/worthreading/2015/2/9/dreger-a-lot-of-buzz-around-canadiens-trade-potential-lightning-could-deal-too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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