IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Commandant said: Gallagher has the hand issues, but thats pretty much about it. The idea that he is gonna get more injuries because his style of play and size hasn't been born out in other similar size/style guys like Brad Marchand, Theo Fleury, Pat Verbeek, etc.... etc... over the years. In fact, its been the bigger, physical players who have seen more injuries than smaller ones. They just put more stress on ligaments, tendons, joints etc... The concern for him has always been overblown IMO. I couldn't agree more... the guy has been hurt by snapshots the fingers only LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: He’s had the hand issues almost every year for the past 3 or 4 years, and during the last two playoffs he’s been ineffective offensively. Marchand may be the same size, but the refs don’t let him take even close to the amount of abuse Gallagher has to take. Marchand is extremely talented more so then a pest... not sure Gallagher is that level offensively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said: Marchand is extremely talented more so then a pest... not sure Gallagher is that level offensively Oh, I agree. Just saying that one reason that Marchand also has more to give in the playoffs is that he doesn’t take nearly as much abuse as Gallagher. The refs actually call infractions against Marchand and never call as many dives against him as they should. On the other hand, i think there is a special unwritten rule that allows Gallagher to mugged at least 10 times, before a penalty is actually called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Rumour of Ristolianan in for Weber??? In a trade. I BELIEVE this is NOT the answer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said: Rumour of Ristolianan in for Weber??? In a trade. I BELIEVE this is NOT the answer... He would be relatively cheap. Our 30th overall pick this year? $5.4M but only for one year, so if Weber is back for 2022-23, we would avoid a cap crunch. He's no Weber, for sure. And not a Hamilton, either. But playing tough minutes on a crappy team doesn't help his stats, either. He's not at the top of my list, but if the Habs' pro scouts think he still has some capability, I'm willing to suspend disbelief and wait to see the actual results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I know the analytics aren't pretty for Ristolainen but I think a change of scenery to something resembling a winning environment would help the cause plus it's a contract year. I'm not as down on the idea of him as some are as a result. It doesn't sound like he's at the top of their wish list though; he'd be more of an option if other things don't materialize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Yeah it’s tough to value a player that plays on a loser team with zero hope for the future. The whole team plays like they have no hope at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Gambadoro isn't well-known in terms of rumours but he was the first with the full details of the Hill to San Jose trade last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Dvorak would be an excellent trade option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Commandant said: Dvorak would be an excellent trade option. Agreed ... four more seasons @ $4.45M ... 8 team no-trade only kicks in after 2022-23 season ... upped his goal scoring this season (25g/82gm) ... wonder what they would want ... expect they might ask for KK ... not certain I would consider that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Dreger reporting Habs are in on Eichel. Edit: TSN is reporting this, not Dreger directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alfredoh2009 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Booooo, booooo I hope he is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Need another D... savard is not enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Commandant said: Need another D... savard is not enough Savard is likely third-pairing material, right? What are our youth options for next season? Is Brook the only (young) D in Laval that might see some NHL action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, tomh009 said: Savard is likely third-pairing material, right? What are our youth options for next season? Is Brook the only (young) D in Laval that might see some NHL action? Brook probably needs another season in Laval, but yes he is the top Habs AHL d-man prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Trizzak said: Brook probably needs another season in Laval, but yes he is the top Habs AHL d-man prospect. Right. With Mete and Fleury gone (and Leskinen gone to the KHL), all of a sudden we have a bit of a development gap on D. Unless Norlinder really wows us at training camp. But, even though I hold out hope for his future, I'm not expecting him to break into the Habs lineup this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Savard is likely third-pairing material, right? What are our youth options for next season? Is Brook the only (young) D in Laval that might see some NHL action? What scares me is paying Savard 1st or 2nd pairing money (like Alzner), when he should only be considered a bottom bottom pairing option (given our current D). if we can get him cheap, as a bottom pairing guy, who can step up into 2nd pairing sure. But we still need a Hamilton type addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 10 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: What scares me is paying Savard 1st or 2nd pairing money (like Alzner), when he should only be considered a bottom bottom pairing option (given our current D). if we can get him cheap, as a bottom pairing guy, who can step up into 2nd pairing sure. But we still need a Hamilton type addition. The insane 9.5 given Jones is a bit of a dash of cold water regarding Hamilton, though. I am amazed Jones got that in a flat cap world. Do we want Hamilton on a long term deal at that price point? I would say *probably* yes…I mean, we were carrying around a vastly worse contract in Weber’s 7.5 for the next five years. At least Hamilton would still likely be an effective player by the end of the contract. But between 9+ for him and Price’s 10.5 I’m not sure it’s realistic. I wouldn’t be surprised if we go with a “platoon” on D…add two mid-range puck-moving D and then keep rotating the pairings, instead of having a true #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 10 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: What scares me is paying Savard 1st or 2nd pairing money (like Alzner), when he should only be considered a bottom bottom pairing option (given our current D). if we can get him cheap, as a bottom pairing guy, who can step up into 2nd pairing sure. But we still need a Hamilton type addition. 10 hours ago, tomh009 said: Savard is likely third-pairing material, right? What are our youth options for next season? Is Brook the only (young) D in Laval that might see some NHL action? Nobody is giving Savard 1st pairing money. He's not that kind of player. But he will get 2nd pairing money. I expect him to get a similar contract to Larsson. Ideally you bring him in along with a more offensively talented defender like Barrie and have a 2nd pairing calibre player on the 3rd pairing. But they can do worse than having Savard on the second pairing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 If the market is deflated for Eichel, maybe the Habs have a shot with the four quarters for a dollar approach. It would lock us in to a Leafs-like salary cap situation, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Im of the thinking we NEED to get Hamilton.... especially if we want to build off of our playoff success this past season and help the young kids grow... Edmundson Petry Chiarot Hamilton Romanov Kulak *Insert UFA here Norlinder Brook *Likely need to sign 2 defenders to make noise in the playoffs Will Norlinder be given a chance to crack the line up??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said: Will Norlinder be given a chance to crack the line up??? Sure, but same as Romanov, shouldnt expect him to be impact guy as a rookie, even if manages to grab a spot in October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Rumours have New Jersey as a serious suitor for Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 We'd all love Hamilton, but where do we put our chances on actually getting him, 10%? Who do we think is most likely? I'd say DeAngelo and Savard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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