TurdBurglar Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I know a few teams have inquired about Lehkonen, hoping he's the next Goodrow or Coleman. The assumption is his next contract will be $3.5m-$4m per year. The price is high on him because Hughes has serious interest in resigning him, so if he's being traded the offer need to knock your socks off. He is a RFA after this season as well, so there's no chance of trade and resigning him in the offseason, which also increases his value. Bottom line is Hughes will get his asking price or Lehkonen will stay put. I quoted Commandant's post about the Lebrun tweet and it quoted completely different post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Yeah. But just “feels like” and “my sense” so no actual insider info. We’ll know in three days, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Given the Habs cap situation next year, can they afford the luxury of another 3.5-4.5M middle 6 winger? Seems a tricky proposition if there's significant interesting in Lehkonen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Yeah. But just “feels like” and “my sense” so no actual insider info. We’ll know in three days, though. Or, more likely IMO, he has insider information but not from a "strong" source ... OR ... maybe he only reports without qualification what he has confirmed from two or more sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 19 minutes ago, huzer said: Given the Habs cap situation next year, can they afford the luxury of another 3.5-4.5M middle 6 winger? Seems a tricky proposition if there's significant interesting in Lehkonen. Suzuki's $7.875M contract kicks in next season ... CapFriendly projects the Habs as having $1.7M in cap space and 16 NHL players (you have to add the IR players to the "12" they show in their team summary) ... I am excluding Weber as he will either be moved or just sit on LTIR ... Romanov is an RFA, and IMO more important to re-sign than Lehkonen ... HuGo will have to get creative in the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 https://montrealhockeynow.com/2022/03/18/nhl-trade-talk-montreal-canadiens-artturi-lehkonen-reportedly-in-play/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, GHT120 said: HuGo will have to get creative in the offseason. Whether or not Lehkonen is traded, I am absolutely certain that more players will be moved, either now or in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 hours ago, GHT120 said: Or, more likely IMO, he has insider information but not from a "strong" source ... OR ... maybe he only reports without qualification what he has confirmed from two or more sources. There's a handful of insiders that are more reliable than others. LeBrun is one of those. His "feeling" is based on more than a feeling, it's just being presented that way. Let's be honest, if Bob McKenzie said he had a feeling Lehkonen will be traded, we would all take it as a when, not if. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Today’s article on the Athletic had relevant comments from Hughes. It’s about Kulak but as relevant to the Lehkonen discussion as well. “We love Brett Kulak as a player. We’re not interested in trading him,” the GM said. “I can never say that we will not trade a player. If there’s an offer we can’t refuse, we’ll definitely consider it. But I can tell you that we don’t make calls asking people if they are interested in Brett Kulak.” It’s all about getting more value in a trade. Which is how it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: Today’s article on the Athletic had relevant comments from Hughes. It’s about Kulak but as relevant to the Lehkonen discussion as well. “We love Brett Kulak as a player. We’re not interested in trading him,” the GM said. “I can never say that we will not trade a player. If there’s an offer we can’t refuse, we’ll definitely consider it. But I can tell you that we don’t make calls asking people if they are interested in Brett Kulak.” It’s all about getting more value in a trade. Which is how it should be. Interesting. We don’t yet know Hughes’s style. Is he pumping Kulak’s tires strategically (to inflate the player’s value, or maybe his self-confidence as a way of ultimately inflating his value)? Or is he sincere - as in, the new management group actually does love Kulak? If the latter, then one inference is that they are obviously big on advanced stats, since Kulak seems to be an advanced-stats darling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Interesting. We don’t yet know Hughes’s style. Is he pumping Kulak’s tires strategically (to inflate the player’s value, or maybe his self-confidence as a way of ultimately inflating his value)? Or is he sincere - as in, the new management group actually does love Kulak? If the latter, then one inference is that they are obviously big on advanced stats, since Kulak seems to be an advanced-stats darling. Maybe Richardson also needs to go? I assume they will quickly mostly clean house behind the bench at season end, with St Louis seemingly looking good to be named coach full time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Interesting. We don’t yet know Hughes’s style. Is he pumping Kulak’s tires strategically (to inflate the player’s value, or maybe his self-confidence as a way of ultimately inflating his value)? Or is he sincere - as in, the new management group actually does love Kulak? If the latter, then one inference is that they are obviously big on advanced stats, since Kulak seems to be an advanced-stats darling. At least we know his style isn’t to make comments like “if you want want loyalty by a dog” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 8 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: At least we know his style isn’t to make comments like “if you want want loyalty by a dog” I liked that comment, I love dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 from 32 thoughts: 6. Something to keep an eye on: Colin White and Montreal. Canadiens GM Kent Hughes represented White, negotiating his current contract with the Senators. There were conversations, and, for a time, a few sources expected it to happen. We will see if it gets revisited 13. Edmonton liked Arturri Lehkonen, but couldn’t pay the same price as Colorado. 14. Montreal’s return for Ben Chiarot drove up the cost for Jakob Chychrun. 17. Think there were a few teams who saw Brett Kulak and Jeremy Lauzon go for second-round picks, and regretted not getting on Robert Hagg. He went to Florida for a sixth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I had seen some speculation that White was seriously in play but dismissed it as wishful thinking from Ottawa. I'm surprised it was Montreal that was the interested team. That's a bad contract; I think there's a good chance he's bought out this summer (the cost would only be one-third instead of the usual two-thirds). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, dlbalr said: I had seen some speculation that White was seriously in play but dismissed it as wishful thinking from Ottawa. I'm surprised it was Montreal that was the interested team. That's a bad contract; I think there's a good chance he's bought out this summer (the cost would only be one-third instead of the usual two-thirds). It is a bad contract. You would think that Dorion is one GM who will be on the hot seat next year as this is their 4th bad season in a row. How long do you give a guy to rebuild? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, dlbalr said: I had seen some speculation that White was seriously in play but dismissed it as wishful thinking from Ottawa. I'm surprised it was Montreal that was the interested team. That's a bad contract; I think there's a good chance he's bought out this summer (the cost would only be one-third instead of the usual two-thirds). What do you to you think the market will be for White once he is an UFA if bought out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 10 hours ago, GHT120 said: What do you to you think the market will be for White once he is an UFA if bought out? Not great in terms of his leverage but there should be a lot of interest in a short-term deal around half of what he's getting now. Maybe a one-year, $2.5M deal that gives White another RFA-eligible season if the Sens were to buy him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun is saying he believes Montreal with take a run at Giroux in free agency. With the rumours of Hughes making a play for Collin White and saying they will be aggressive during free agency, is anyone else concerned with this retool now? I was all in on a full rebuild, like most fans, and now it’s back to another retool by the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun is saying he believes Montreal with take a run at Giroux in free agency. With the rumours of Hughes making a play for Collin White and saying they will be aggressive during free agency, is anyone else concerned with this retool now? I was all in on a full rebuild, like most fans, and now it’s back to another retool by the looks of it. Garioch tries to guess on Habs stuff, and it never pans out. Nothing to see here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun is saying he believes Montreal with take a run at Giroux in free agency. With the rumours of Hughes making a play for Collin White and saying they will be aggressive during free agency, is anyone else concerned with this retool now? I was all in on a full rebuild, like most fans, and now it’s back to another retool by the looks of it. Unlike the Bob Mckenzie's of the world Boo-Boo has always struck me as a click-bait "woman-of-ill-repute" ... I think HoGo may look at some short-term veterans to mentor youngsters but nothing significant ... unless they manage to move several of Price, Gallagher, Petry, Drouin and Weber before free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: Garioch tries to guess on Habs stuff, and it never pans out. Nothing to see here I agree, I will judge Hughes by what he does not what the rumour mill says. I like everything he has done so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Garrioch is a mouth piece for the Sens organization. Seemingly everything transaction wise that is broken about that team comes from him. I dont doubt his ottawa sources. Elsewhere he kinda sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Vignault our next headcoach? Read something on habseyeontheprice... Read now that its an april fools joke. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Dalhabs said: Vignault our next headcoach? Read something on habseyeontheprice... Read now that its an april fools joke. 😁 Him as assistant coach would be fine, seems a smart witty fella and experience might help St Louis, but obviously he is likely looking another head coaching gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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