JoeLassister Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 What about Dustin Brown in LA... he might be available since LA wants to go after a big impact player like Brad Richards, Jason Spezza or Alexander Semin. Brown is a decent goal scorer having notched four 20-goal seasons in a row. Maybe a trade involving Kostitsyn, Weber and something else could be worked out. LA could then flip some of those pieces for a big name player they're coveting. Just a thought. Source ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have no source or information, but I do have a strong feeling that PG is done. I'm just thinking that the asking price is going to be too high for a top 6 forward. Hope I'm wrong, but just a feeling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Source ? I'm going off of what I've been hearing through TSN, CBC and various other hockey shows that LA always seem to be one of the teams in on the big players (like Gaborik and most recently Kovalchuk last year). With Richards presumably on the market and everyone outside of the Senators logo available, maybe Spezza is too. I'm not sure about Semin, maybe I'm getting him confused with Backstrom - I thought someone on Washington was in trade rumours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I think if there's another trade it'll be Kosty for a similar forward that better fits our team identity. Maybe Brad Boyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) I'm going off of what I've been hearing through TSN, CBC and various other hockey shows that LA always seem to be one of the teams in on the big players (like Gaborik and most recently Kovalchuk last year). With Richards presumably on the market and everyone outside of the Senators logo available, maybe Spezza is too. I'm not sure about Semin, maybe I'm getting him confused with Backstrom - I thought someone on Washington was in trade rumours. It's pretty well assumed out here in the west that LA is looking to make a significant move. They've had a disappointing season after being pegged as 'the new Chicago' - they want to win, to take that jump to heavy-duty contender; they also, I believe, have cap space to burn; and they are rolling in young assets and picks. The perfect, highly-motivated deadline-day partner. I for one will be surprised if Richards or some other big name isn't a King by Monday. I could see them kicking the tires on Kostitsyn. And yeah, the hard-hitting Brown would be an AWESOME acquisition. But really, it's a long shot that we have anything to offer them. Edited February 25, 2011 by The Chicoutimi Cucumber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 If Spacek goes on IR, how much cap money will we have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 If Spacek goes on IR, how much cap money will we have? It is official, he is out for the season. So add $3,833,333 to $1,844,267 and the Habs will have $5,677,600 in acquisition space...provided he is placed on LTIR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Let's add an impact player! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Let's add an impact player! What about this little guy? Seems pretty effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Habs out of Philips chase. = RDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Habs out of Philips chase. = RDS On that note, Renaud Lavoie is saying the Habs are going after a top-9 forward...and that it won't be Radek Dvorak (much to my delight...I like the player, but listening to his name get butchered is rough 4 times a year). I've added a few more people to the Twitter sources list so be sure to check the main page often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 On that note, Renaud Lavoie is saying the Habs are going after a top-9 forward...and that it won't be Radek Dvorak (much to my delight...I like the player, but listening to his name get butchered is rough 4 times a year). I've added a few more people to the Twitter sources list so be sure to check the main page often. I've got a bad feeling that PG is going to give away AK46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I've got a bad feeling that PG is going to give away AK46 C'mon, when has PG ever given away a Kostitsyn for a poor return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 More from Lavoie, saying J.P. Dumont will waive his NTC (it's actually a NMC) to be dealt to the Habs. You may recall reports last week saying he wasn't going to waive it period. However, the fact he's a healthy scratch catches my attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 More from Lavoie, saying J.P. Dumont will waive his NTC (it's actually a NMC) to be dealt to the Habs. You may recall reports last week saying he wasn't going to waive it period. However, the fact he's a healthy scratch catches my attention. http://twitter.com/r...956347872280576 Dumont has been a huge disappointment this year. Would we even want him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Dumont has been a huge disappointment this year. Would we even want him? 1 year at $4 mil left with a full NMC after this one. He has been a 40-point or better player in each of the last 5 years but has basically been dead offensively this year. It'd be a risk for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 1 year at $4 mil left with a full NMC after this one. He has been a 40-point or better player in each of the last 5 years but has basically been dead offensively this year. It'd be a risk for sure. Unless we've got equally cumbersome salary going back the other way, I'd pass for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Unless we've got equally cumbersome salary going back the other way, I'd pass for sure. unless its Gomez going the other way, i'd pass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 According to Incarcerated Bob on Twitter, the Habs have a deal in place for Dumont. I'd link to his Twitter page but it's restricted access anyways so there's really no point... Sometimes this guy is right, sometimes he isn't. No word on what the Habs would send back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Dumont is finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Dumont is finished. yep totally agree. Unless we can unload 3 1/2 years of Gomez for 1 year of Dumont this would be an incredibly stupid trade to make! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 yep totally agree. Unless we can unload 3 1/2 years of Gomez for 1 year of Dumont this would be an incredibly stupid trade to make! Hypothetically speaking, what about Spacek? Both have 1 year left, and the salaries are virtually a wash. Sportsnet musing about Dumont to Toronto with Ryan Ellis for MacArthur so by no means is the Dumont-to-Habs report guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) Hypothetically speaking, what about Spacek? Both have 1 year left, and the salaries are virtually a wash. Sportsnet musing about Dumont to Toronto with Ryan Ellis for MacArthur so by no means is the Dumont-to-Habs report guaranteed. Can Spacek even be traded if he is injured??? I still wouldn't do it - the habs need the money to replenish the D next year and it would be risky having $11.2M tied up on Dumont AND Gomez and another $16M in Cammy/Pleks/Gionta. Thats a lot of money for 5 forwards, out of which only 2 may crack 70 points (pleks and Cammy). I've been saying for the past 1 1/2 years the achilles heel for this team is the D. It's to slow and too old. Getting rid of Spacek would help, but does it leave enough money to sign 5 new Dman, with only Subban signed and Weber an RFA??? This is why anytime i talk about the go forward plan for the Habs it all comes back to Gomez. The habs have given given premiums to each and every member of their core - when other teams are getting guys to take home town discounts (i.e. Philly, Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Vancouver). This is partly because Gainey didn't lock up guys when he had the chance when they were RFA's, so he was left with no choice to pay market + the montreal tax premium. I firmly believe that showing confidence in a guy like Pleks could have got him locked up at $4M. He still scored 20+ goals in an awful year for the entire team and still worked his butt off every night and always has shown himself to be a very smart player with great hockey sense. I really hope the habs correct that practice and try to lock up Subban an MaxPac long-term. I also wouldn't be averse to locking up both Ak46 and Pouliot long-term, as both ahve shown capability to be a top 6 forwards. If nothing else they become tradeable assets - as long as they don't give players BOTH term AND dollars, like Gainey did in the great rebuild of 2009, we should be able to get these guys locked up at a reasonable cap hit. Edited February 27, 2011 by hab29RETIRED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Can Spacek even be traded if he is injured??? I still wouldn't do it - the habs need the money to replenish the D next year and it would be risky having $11.2M tied up on Dumont AND Gomez and another $16M in Cammy/Pleks/Gionta. Thats a lot of money for 5 forwards, out of which only 2 may crack 70 points (pleks and Cammy). Yep, anyone not on LTIR can be dealt...actually, I'm not sure someone on LTIR couldn't be but I could be wrong. Theodore was dealt while on IR years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Dumont does indeed show every sign of being done. He's pushing 33 after a long career and his numbers went into preciptious decline last season, a pattern which has intensified this year. Those aren't good signs. He is also on a team starved for offence; so without having claimed to observe Nashville closely, he probably was given every chance to find his game and played himself off the top lines. Unless, indeed, it's a mutual salary dump (as it would be with Spacek involved, say) - or else a rental acquired for minimal cost on our part - it's hard to see why the Habs would make this move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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