DON Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 As bad as Bourque is, getting another soft perimeter player in return with a bad knee would be a really bad move. He was signed as a/let walk as a UFA twice in last few years, Aves now (may) want to ship him, knee injury, biggest year was 20 goals, $4m/yr, not real promising player I don't think? (but Bourque isn't a guy you want around for another 2 1/2 years neither) Habs 3 wins last 10 games Hawks 3 wins last 10 games Kings 3 wins in last 10 games and lost 4 straight. Maybe Kings or Hawks looking to upgrade or shake things up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 He was signed as a/let walk as a UFA twice in last few years, Aves now (may) want to ship him, knee injury, biggest year was 20 goals, $4m/yr, not real promising player I don't think? (but Bourque isn't a guy you want around for another 2 1/2 years neither) Habs 3 wins last 10 games Hawks 3 wins last 10 games Kings 3 wins in last 10 games and lost 4 straight. Maybe Kings or Hawks looking to upgrade or shake things up? seeing that the Hawks and Kings are struggling makes me a feel a little better, but not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I'd take the deal because it's SOMETHING NEW IN THE LOCKER ROOM and that has a better chance of inspiring the Habs than the same old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 He was signed as a/let walk as a UFA twice in last few years, Aves now (may) want to ship him, knee injury, biggest year was 20 goals, $4m/yr, not real promising player I don't think? (but Bourque isn't a guy you want around for another 2 1/2 years neither) Habs 3 wins last 10 games Hawks 3 wins last 10 games Kings 3 wins in last 10 games and lost 4 straight. Maybe Kings or Hawks looking to upgrade or shake things up? Coaches must have lost the room... Lol. I'd take the deal because it's SOMETHING NEW IN THE LOCKER ROOM and that has a better chance of inspiring the Habs than the same old. Why do we need anyone back? Just getting rid of Bourque would send a message and get a guy who is floating out of the room. I would take pucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 There are way more floaters then just Bourque. Bringing in overpriced soft players just to "send a message" isn't good asset management If you want to send a message, bench Markov and Gionta for a night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 There are way more floaters then just Bourque. Bringing in overpriced soft players just to "send a message" isn't good asset management If you want to send a message, bench Markov and Gionta for a night. I think in this case, it is getting rid of the over-priced soft player ie., Bouque that has everyone excited. After all, PAP is a one-time 20 goal scorer....wouldn'd it be nice to have a player come to Montreal and rediscover his game... its been a long time since that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Why do we need anyone back? Just getting rid of Bourque would send a message and get a guy who is floating out of the room. I would take pucks. If Lebrun is correct, Bourque was offered out to 29 teams and nobody bit. That tells me that teams won't take him to alleviate our cap. Taking him for even an eighth round pick is going to mean that team takes his cap hit. Parenteau has seven points in 10 games and people are talking about him like he's Bourque. Product of Tavares? He scored 43 points in 48 games last season on a horrible Avalanche team. Avalanche team. No Tavares. His cap hit is $4M? Yes please. I just don't see it costing Bourque at all. Whoever wrote that deserves a paddlin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 If Lebrun is correct, Bourque was offered out to 29 teams and nobody bit. That tells me that teams won't take him to alleviate our cap. Taking him for even an eighth round pick is going to mean that team takes his cap hit. Parenteau has seven points in 10 games and people are talking about him like he's Bourque. Product of Tavares? He scored 43 points in 48 games last season on a horrible Avalanche team. Avalanche team. No Tavares. His cap hit is $4M? Yes please. I just don't see it costing Bourque at all. Whoever wrote that deserves a paddlin'. Even without Tavares in Colorado, his numbers might be down because he's been dropped down a line and isn't getting minutes on the powerplay. Colorado still had great offensive players last year; if he got 43 points on a line centered by Matt Duchesne, Paul Stastny or Ryan O'Reilly, he's not going to be a point per game player, because we don't have any centers that can produce like them. When we got Bourque, he was coming off a few seasons of 25+ goals and he's sucked here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Bourque- 103gp 29pts Cammalleri- 109gp 72pt Since trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Bourque- 103gp 29pts Cammalleri- 109gp 72pt Since trade $3.33m/year vs $6.0/yr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Cammy's contract is expiring, we are stuck with 2 more years of Bourque. $3.33m/year vs $6.0/yr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 seeing that the Hawks and Kings are struggling makes me a feel a little better, but not much. Just trying to show Habs not only team with issues, even top ranked teams. And is a long season with ups and downs for all. So all the 'Chicken-Littles' ranting about what a disaster/how horrendous Bergevin/Therrien are just a bit over the top and must of had kooky expectations for this roster to begin with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Cammy's contract is expiring, we are stuck with 2 more years of Bourque. Touché Am simply trying to not go down rat hole with all the pessimism and buy into all the BS on the shitwinds these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Just trying to show Habs not only team with issues, even top ranked teams. And is a long season with ups and downs for all. So all the 'Chicken-Littles' ranting about what a disaster/how horrendous Bergevin/Therrien are just a bit over the top and must of had kooky expectations for this roster to begin with? In our last 6 games we've let in 27 goals. .... Horrendous is the right word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Cammy would not have put up that amount of points with the habs. It would be another midget in the lineup. Bourque simply has too many injuries including concussions and only plays hard sometimes. That's his problem. Remember before December when they were 3rd in goals against? I can't believe MT all of a sudden changed his coaching style. The players simply aren't good enough to play that way for 82 games. Eventually talent, size, character and work ethic win out over the long haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 In our last 6 games we've let in 27 goals. .... Horrendous is the right word Chicago/Los Angelos have also won a grand total of 3 games in last 10, so their Mgmt is horrendous as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Cammy is about 3X the player Bourque is, period. That was a terrible hockey trade at the time (as I and others declaimed) and remains a terrible hockey trade. The ONLY thing that made it better was Bourque's lower cap hit, but even there, Habs29 makes a sharp point about contract length. The trade didn't even make sense on grounds that Cammy had rebelled against Martin. They fired Martin. So what is the sense in then throwing away the guy who got him fired? Pick one or the other. Parenteau seems like a risk worth taking to me, but it won't happen because no other GM is sufficiently stupid. Maybe once the deadline approaches, he'll be more moveable. After all, GM IQ plummets about 30 points in the two weeks leading up to the deadline. EDIT: as for Chicago and LA's struggles...well. Two of these three teams are Cup champs. See if you can spot the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Surprisingly the Kings can't score goals with that lineup, crazy with all that talent. The entire Cammy thing was a train wreck from start to finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Chicago/Los Angelos have also won a grand total of 3 games in last 10, so their Mgmt is horrendous as well? Chicago lost all those games by one point. They're record is also. 23-10-12. We've been blown out and that's playing some mediocre teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Good point, Stogey. It's not just that we're losing - it's that we are not playing in a way that resembles an NHL team in our own zone. It is a horror show. Like I've been saying, that is not normal. We delude ourselves if we accept the analogy with LA and Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 If we had Cammy on the books we wouldn't have signed Briere... *sighs wistfully* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 More importantly, Cammalleri was our second PP strategy. Currently all we have is the Blueline. But no sense living in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 So Montreal has spent months of scouting on the Avs for....Parenteau? I hope there's something else there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Ha ha, yeah, we've come down a ways since the O'Reilly rumours, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Has to be ROR... And honestly, I'm hoping for some MEGA trades. This Habs lineup is the same old thing.. capable of making the playoffs and possibly stealing a round, but not really a contender. When are they going to realise they have a world class goalie and start building a team around him. Make the team tougher to play against, tougher to score against.. \ I don't care who they trade, as long as Price, Subban, and the Gallys aren't involved... Although, I'd really trade anybody if the right deal came along... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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