tomh009 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: If the Habs cannot resign Evans, Dvorak at $2M to play in the 4th line would be really good. Then Newhook becomes an option to center the 3rd line until Beck is ready. It also gives Kapanen the time to develop into a solid 4C If you think his ceiling is 4C, I think you are underestimating Kapanen. He's scoring 0.87 points/game in the SHL after returning from the Habs, not far from the league leaders, who are in the point/game range. And that's in spite of missing about half the games so far. I personally think his ceiling is 2C, but of course getting there is a whole other matter. (Same goes for Hage and Beck, of course.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, GHT120 said: Disagree ... Dvorak at league minimum is a bad idea Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 hours ago, tomh009 said: If you think his ceiling is 4C, I think you are underestimating Kapanen. He's scoring 0.87 points/game in the SHL after returning from the Habs, not far from the league leaders, who are in the point/game range. And that's in spite of missing about half the games so far. I personally think his ceiling is 2C, but of course getting there is a whole other matter. (Same goes for Hage and Beck, of course.) Historically, many prospects that tore it up in junior or the AHL never made it par 4C. You are probably right about Kapanen, but IMHO Beck and Hage who have been playing in North-America J believe that gives them a leg up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 55 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: Historically, many prospects that tore it up in junior or the AHL never made it par 4C. You are probably right about Kapanen, but IMHO Beck and Hage who have been playing in North-America J believe that gives them a leg up. Its too bad that Demidov isn't playing in North America. Guess we have 2/3rds of that future 4th line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said: Historically, many prospects that tore it up in junior or the AHL never made it par 4C. You are probably right about Kapanen, but IMHO Beck and Hage who have been playing in North-America J believe that gives them a leg up. Didn't say he was better or worse than Hage or Beck, just that his ceiling--and also that for the other two--is certainly higher than 4C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: Didn't say he was better or worse than Hage or Beck, just that his ceiling--and also that for the other two--is certainly higher than 4C. Oh, sorry. Jus my brain racing ahead of the conversation I have been thinking quite a bit about roster composition next season. Just not posting much about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterface Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Q-up the ole Kucherov trick. Kane delays his return. https://www.nhl.com/news/evander-kane-injury-status-update-january-10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Butterface said: Q-up the ole Kucherov trick. Kane delays his return. https://www.nhl.com/news/evander-kane-injury-status-update-january-10 A new surgery is hardly the "Kucherov trick". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, GHT120 said: A new surgery is hardly the "Kucherov trick". Kane was also one of the worst players on the Oilers in last year's playoffs. The idea that he was playing at 100% and didn't need all these surgeries and is just doing it for cap reasons is kinda crazy when anyone who watched him play could clearly see he was struggling greatly out there. With a full year off, I'm not even sure he'd be an asset in this year's playoffs if he is dropped into the team with no regular season hockey and rehab. Think how long its taking Dach to get up to speed, or how Laine might be good on the PP, but he's not great 5v5 right now. I think we'd see the same with a rehabbing Kane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterface Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/star_forward_reportedly_wants_to_join_patrik_laine_and_the_montreal_canadiens/s1_17452_41610318 According to reputable insider Frank Seravalli, Nikolaj Ehlers will be a free agent at the end of this season and has shown interest in signing with the Habs. "The Jets forward, currently in the final year of his contract and set to become an unrestricted free agent, has his eyes on the city of Montreal as his next destination." Frank Seravalli Sure, will he take league minimum ? We’ll need to dust off the Price contract and see if anyone wants it… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 8 hours ago, Butterface said: https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/star_forward_reportedly_wants_to_join_patrik_laine_and_the_montreal_canadiens/s1_17452_41610318 According to reputable insider Frank Seravalli, Nikolaj Ehlers will be a free agent at the end of this season and has shown interest in signing with the Habs. "The Jets forward, currently in the final year of his contract and set to become an unrestricted free agent, has his eyes on the city of Montreal as his next destination." Frank Seravalli Sure, will he take league minimum ? We’ll need to dust off the Price contract and see if anyone wants it… May depend on whether we keep Evans and/or Armia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterface Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Interesting… we need to start counting Allen’s games: https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/a_completed_trade_between_canadiens_and_devils_just_took_an_unexpected_turn/s1_17452_41626036 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, Butterface said: Interesting… we need to start counting Allen’s games: https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/a_completed_trade_between_canadiens_and_devils_just_took_an_unexpected_turn/s1_17452_41626036 Even if Markstrom ends up being out for the rest of the season, don't know that I would expect Allen to play 25 of their final 32 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterface Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Even if Markstrom ends up being out for the rest of the season, don't know that I would expect Allen to play 25 of their final 32 games. $#!T …. That is what they’re down to … hmmm likely they’d put the equipment manager in for a couple of games to avoid giving us a lower pick too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Offer of a 2nd pick for Evans? Best likley will get? Snapshots: Evans, Ersson, Nichushkin, Utah, Chara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, DON said: Offer of a 2nd pick for Evans? Best likley will get? Snapshots: Evans, Ersson, Nichushkin, Utah, Chara If Montreal was offered a 2nd at the draft, before his great season so far, you'd have to believe his value would be higher now. He's a player that the team acquiring him should have a reasonable expectation of re-signing him, so he shouldn't be a pure rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 But he wouldnt of been a 'pure' rental back then. So was more value then, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 16 minutes ago, DON said: But he wouldnt of been a 'pure' rental back then. So was more value then, maybe? Typically it costs more at the deadline than before the season for a player with only 1 year remaining. Teams get more desperate at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, Commandant said: Typically it costs more at the deadline than before the season for a player with only 1 year remaining. Teams get more desperate at the deadline. Thanks, makes sense. But, what more than a 2nd rounder might be offered for him in 5 weeks or so? A good prospect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I think its more about how the next five weeks go. How many more second and third rounders do the Habs need. If they are in the mix, might as well keep him. If they fall out, then sure trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Sorry, not whether Habs wanna trade him; but what realistically might be offered by a desperate GM, or asked by Hughes if fall farther back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 8 minutes ago, DON said: Sorry, not whether Habs wanna trade him; but what realistically might be offered by a desperate GM, or asked by Hughes if fall farther back. The more big trades that have happened in the last week the more you can ask for. We've seen three already. Someone is gonna be left looking for an upgrade and not have one. Ask for a 1st or a good prospect you want, and hold out til the last day of the trade deadline. At that point if you have to settle for a second you do, but right now it looks like there are more buyers than sellers so you leverage that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted yesterday at 09:36 PM Share Posted yesterday at 09:36 PM Not surprisingly, the Habs and Evans don't appear to be close on an extension. I wonder if they take one more crack at it during the break and if that doesn't get it done, then they shift firmly into moving him. New Jersey's GM was among the scouts at the game today and they're a team known to have interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted yesterday at 09:42 PM Share Posted yesterday at 09:42 PM (edited) 19 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Not surprisingly, the Habs and Evans don't appear to be close on an extension. I wonder if they take one more crack at it during the break and if that doesn't get it done, then they shift firmly into moving him. New Jersey's GM was among the scouts at the game today and they're a team known to have interest. Evans and Armia for Nemic? EDIT: Wonder which side leaked it trying to put pressure on the other ... "sounds to me" like it might be the Habs but could be Evans' agent. Edited yesterday at 09:56 PM by GHT120 Show new thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted yesterday at 10:11 PM Share Posted yesterday at 10:11 PM Kind of sounds like Evans knows he won’t be back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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