Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 3 hours ago, tomh009 said: I am super happy that Hughes did not resort to getting a 34yo Kreider type in order to get the Habs into the playoffs. Maybe we need someone like that when we are ready to fight for the Cup but this deal seems awfully early in the rebuild process. I agree, I think Hughes has shown the right amount of patience and is sticking to the plan. After having a good run of success during the Getzlaf/Perry years the Ducks haven't made the playoffs since 2018 so I think they are getting a little impatient. They have some really good young pieces and some good vets so I wouldn't be surprised to see some significant improvement this year from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 10 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: I agree, I think Hughes has shown the right amount of patience and is sticking to the plan. After having a good run of success during the Getzlaf/Perry years the Ducks haven't made the playoffs since 2018 so I think they are getting a little impatient. They have some really good young pieces and some good vets so I wouldn't be surprised to see some significant improvement this year from them. Yeah, if we hadn’t been in since 2018 we likely would be making moves like that as well. Anaheim has had it with waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6411170/2025/06/16/penguins-evgeni-malkin-retirement-nhl/?source=emp_shared_article Apparently the Penguins wont offer Malkin a new contract after this season. We should see if they want a trade for him. He'd be a great second line centre for a year and a good mentor for Demidov. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 18 minutes ago, Commandant said: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6411170/2025/06/16/penguins-evgeni-malkin-retirement-nhl/?source=emp_shared_article Apparently the Penguins wont offer Malkin a new contract after this season. We should see if they want a trade for him. He'd be a great second line centre for a year and a good mentor for Demidov. Good idea. He can still produce. And given the current seller's market for C, I can get behind a short-term answer for now, while we wait for a more permanent solution to materialize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 27 minutes ago, Commandant said: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6411170/2025/06/16/penguins-evgeni-malkin-retirement-nhl/?source=emp_shared_article Apparently the Penguins wont offer Malkin a new contract after this season. We should see if they want a trade for him. He'd be a great second line centre for a year and a good mentor for Demidov. Failing to get that long term 2C then this would be an excellent solution for now. What kind of cost are we looking at here? I expect more than the second rounder it cost to get Marchand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 10 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Failing to get that long term 2C then this would be an excellent solution for now. What kind of cost are we looking at here? I expect more than the second rounder it cost to get Marchand Penguins apparently want NHL ready players and prospects instead of picks. Maybe Mailloux Josh Roy 2nd. Hfboards style offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 26 minutes ago, Commandant said: Penguins apparently want NHL ready players and prospects instead of picks. Maybe Mailloux Josh Roy 2nd. Hfboards style offer. I would be willing to pay this. Malkin might be top of the plan B list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Definitely on board for a Malkin trade, but I wouldn't include Mailloux in that deal unless we were getting more back. We are already thin on RD, so I don't think it's in our best interest to send one away, especially one who could actually pop. I'd look at dealing Struble or even Arber instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 I too would like to make a trade where we give up nothing of value (a third pairing D, Josh roy and a 2nd) and get Evgeni Malkin in return. I included Mailloux not to throw him away but because i felt i needed an actual valuable piece to get a first ballot HOFer back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 4 minutes ago, Commandant said: I too would like to make a trade where we give up nothing of value (a third pairing D, Josh roy and a 2nd) and get Evgeni Malkin in return. I included Mailloux not to throw him away but because i felt i needed an actual valuable piece to get a first ballot HOFer back Yes, he is a 1st ballot HOFer but he also turns 39 in July and dropped to 50 points last year although he did miss 14 games. If Pittsburgh is not going to offer him a new contract (just speculation) then perhaps they have seen a decline in his play. He is likely available then, not sure what I would offer for a very short term solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 23 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: but he also turns 39 in July and dropped to 50 points last year although he did miss 14 games. He averaged 0.74 points per game, with pathetic wingers ... he would be a fine band-aid 2C ... I would even support exploring a one year extension if it helped get him to waive his NMC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 28 minutes ago, Commandant said: I too would like to make a trade where we give up nothing of value (a third pairing D, Josh roy and a 2nd) and get Evgeni Malkin in return. I included Mailloux not to throw him away but because i felt i needed an actual valuable piece to get a first ballot HOFer back The counterbalance is that Dubas may be happy to get rid of him and "bidding" would be limited by Malkin's NMC ... so, assuming EM would agree to come to Montreal, it might not be a normal "hockey trade". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 11 minutes ago, GHT120 said: The counterbalance is that Dubas may be happy to get rid of him and "bidding" would be limited by Malkin's NMC ... so, assuming EM would agree to come to Montreal, it might not be a normal "hockey trade". Sure, if in exploring this Malkin (for whatever reason) has limited himself to Montreal and no where else, you lower your offer. My offer was based on what i would pay in a scenario with two or more teams bidding on him. Hes still 0.74 PPG on a team that loaded up the Crosby line and had no depth. I think hes worth the bandaid and being a vet Russian would also have off-ice benefits for Demidov too. We have no other Russians on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 23 minutes ago, GHT120 said: He averaged 0.74 points per game, with pathetic wingers ... he would be a fine band-aid 2C ... I would even support exploring a one year extension if it helped get him to waive his NMC. Not saying I am against pursuing him, might be a good fit with Demidov. Just saying I am unsure how much you give up for a guy closing in on 40 as decline can happen quickly at that age. Maybe he has a couple good years left, don't know how well he looks after himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildTurkeyXX Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 30 minutes ago, WildTurkeyXX said: Interesting... Might be, if was an actual rumour linking him to Habs and that 38yr old even has any gas left in tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 5 hours ago, Commandant said: I too would like to make a trade where we give up nothing of value (a third pairing D, Josh roy and a 2nd) and get Evgeni Malkin in return. I included Mailloux not to throw him away but because i felt i needed an actual valuable piece to get a first ballot HOFer back Just leave our RDs alone and make a deal, does that compute with you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 25 minutes ago, illWill said: Just leave our RDs alone and make a deal, does that compute with you? EVERY player can be traded if it makes the team better ... does that compute with you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, illWill said: Just leave our RDs alone and make a deal, does that compute with you? Who are you giving? And no struble or xhekaj arent getting it done imo The snark is also not needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: EVERY player can be traded if it makes the team better ... does that compute with you? I think certainly any player can be traded to make the team better. The question for me is do you give up one of your better prospects for a guy that may or may not help you a lot for a year or two? Malkin will be 39 when the season starts. Not sure how much gas is left in the tank. If I am trading Mailloux and some sort of package I would prefer it to be for someone who is more than a stop gap. Good item for discussion though, I see both sides. Still thinking signing Granlund is the best way to go. Will have to overpay but that's the way it goes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 10 hours ago, GHT120 said: EVERY player can be traded if it makes the team better ... does that compute with you? Genius insight here, thanks for chiming in. 9 hours ago, Commandant said: Who are you giving? And no struble or xhekaj arent getting it done imo The snark is also not needed. Just trying to match your snark big fella. Surely as the Snark King around here, you should understand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 22 minutes ago, illWill said: Genius insight here, thanks for chiming in. Just trying to match your snark big fella. Surely as the Snark King around here, you should understand. Good answer. You still haven't said who you'd trade. You get asked a question, and instead of answering, just be a dick and attack others. Easy to criticize others, not as easy to provide original thoughts though. Guess you can't compute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildTurkeyXX Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 A week or so ago I proposed the idea of trading a single first round pick (17th overall) in exchange for a mid 30's center with two years left on a contract, with enough tread left on the tires to believe there would be a reasonable possibility of re-signing (if the performance warranted it). I was then thoroughly educated on the value of premium assets, and why we shouldn't consider trading them for aging, bandaid solutions. Considering Malkin has even less tread on the tires (at 39) and only one year remaining... As much as I do think he would be an interesting consideration, I don't think I could justify more than Mesar and a 2nd for him. Maybe that's an under bid, but that's as much as I'd be willing to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, illWill said: Genius insight here, thanks for chiming in. Thanks for acknowledging that my reply was genius ... always happy to elevate the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 22 hours ago, Commandant said: Penguins apparently want NHL ready players and prospects instead of picks. Maybe Mailloux Josh Roy 2nd. Hfboards style offer. It all depends on what we think of these prospects, doesn’t it? If we see Mailloux as very likely to top out at a #5-6 - or, as has been discussed on this board, Nate Beaulieu - then sure, make that trade. Given that we might be talking about one single year of Malkin (who knows, he might retire once his contract is up, or his play might go off a cliff due to age) I agree with those who feel this is too much for a stop-gap C. Again, it comes back to Mailloux. On the other hand, something on this scale might in fact be market value for Malkin. There are teams that are (a) more desperate than us and/or (b) looking to win a Cup and thinking Malkin might be that piece. It comes back to the insane seller’s market for C that we’re in. But based on my limited knowledge of prospects, I’d be reluctant to pay that much for a player who may not even help us for more than one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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