Time for Price

[KoZed]

Roy did have (still does) a monster ego; he did have some inexcusable reactions (like going to the coach`s office and throwing everything in sight)

But that ego got him 1, 2, 3 Conn-Smythe Trophies. Winning excuses many behaviors.

Reminds of when I was in High School. I gave all my teachers headaches and got thrown out of so many classes. But I was getting straight A's (or an average grade of 90+%, we didnt have letter grades) so I was somewhat justified for being a disturbance. If you're successful, your bad attitude is seen as a symptom. If you're not successful, your bad attitude is seen as a cause.

[rafikz]

But that ego got him 1, 2, 3 Conn-Smythe Trophies. Winning excuses many behaviors.

Reminds of when I was in High School. I gave all my teachers headaches and got thrown out of so many classes. But I was getting straight A's (or an average grade of 90+%, we didnt have letter grades) so I was somewhat justified for being a disturbance. If you're successful, your bad attitude is seen as a symptom. If you're not successful, your bad attitude is seen as a cause.

The thing with Roy is that his worst moments occured during the regular season, but he was careful during the playoffs (and his fights with Vernon and Osgood don`t count, that was just good ol`rivalry)

And nothing has beaten the wink yet !

[Chris]

Ahhh, i missed all the insanity everytime Price plays.

Halak gives up 6 goals, several softies, probably cost them game 2, nothing said.

Price gives up 4, played allright, then Price Armegeddon.

So to keep up, I also blame Price for the Strep throat i currently have, global warming, the weak US dollar, terrorism, Obama trying to turn America into socialists.

[Fanpuck33]

Ahhh, i missed all the insanity everytime Price plays.

Halak gives up 6 goals, several softies, probably cost them game 2, nothing said.

Price gives up 4, played allright, then Price Armegeddon.

I wouldn't have said anything about Price had he not taken the unsportsmanlike penalties. I even would have let the second one go, but not that first one.

[Chris]

I wasn't referring to anyone specifically.

Just the nonsense that Price gets when he plays.

[rafikz]

Ahhh, i missed all the insanity everytime Price plays.

Halak gives up 6 goals, several softies, probably cost them game 2, nothing said.

Price gives up 4, played allright, then Price Armegeddon.

So to keep up, I also blame Price for the Strep throat i currently have, global warming, the weak US dollar, terrorism, Obama trying to turn America into socialists.

Nothing against Price's performance. No

But Halak, even if he was average in the series, doesn't have a douchey attitude

[brobin]

If Price slashed a guy in front of him to send a message and took a penalty, I would have been fine. What he did accomplished nothing in the way of intimidation and make him look stupid.

It is part of the maturing process he has to go through, much like a lot of young players who are pronounced superstars early. Cammy basically called that out as immature after the game and if Price has any brains, he will listen to Cammy and learn from it...

Cammy should be the captain.

[MK1]

Nothing against Price's performance. No

But Halak, even if he was average in the series, doesn't have a douchey attitude

+1000

[Colin]

I don't get it. We want players with fire in their belly, guys who hate losing, who are uber-competitive, then when we get one, under the bus he goes. There's talk about what he's won and how he can justify his ego - well, he's still a KID. Anyone remember when he was having that super hot streak early in the season and during a penalty shootout he was taunting the opposition? How come no one was bitching then? I'm GLAD he got pissed. Glad he did something about it. I'm glad Gomez has taken exception and has done something about it. Bitch bitch bitch about how soft and uncompetitive the team is, then when they get competitive and display emotion, it's not good enough.

Worst fan-base ever.

[rafikz]

I don't get it. We want players with fire in their belly, guys who hate losing, who are uber-competitive, then when we get one, under the bus he goes. There's talk about what he's won and how he can justify his ego - well, he's still a KID. Anyone remember when he was having that super hot streak early in the season and during a penalty shootout he was taunting the opposition? How come no one was bitching then? I'm GLAD he got pissed. Glad he did something about it. I'm glad Gomez has taken exception and has done something about it. Bitch bitch bitch about how soft and uncompetitive the team is, then when they get competitive and display emotion, it's not good enough.

Worst fan-base ever.

There is a difference between playing with fire and acting stupid

Sakic, Yzerman, Lemieux had that fire but they didn't go Carey Price on their opponents..........

[Fanpuck33]

I don't get it. We want players with fire in their belly, guys who hate losing, who are uber-competitive, then when we get one, under the bus he goes. There's talk about what he's won and how he can justify his ego - well, he's still a KID. Anyone remember when he was having that super hot streak early in the season and during a penalty shootout he was taunting the opposition? How come no one was bitching then? I'm GLAD he got pissed. Glad he did something about it. I'm glad Gomez has taken exception and has done something about it. Bitch bitch bitch about how soft and uncompetitive the team is, then when they get competitive and display emotion, it's not good enough.

Worst fan-base ever.

If something had been accomplished, then I wouldn't be saying too much about it. But what did we gain? Did either of his penalties make it less likely that the Caps will crash the net?

As for the shootout you mentioned, everyone knows that when you're backing it up its confidence and when you're sucking its arrogance, haha.

[Colin]

There is a difference between playing with fire and acting stupid

Sakic, Yzerman, Lemieux had that fire but they didn't go Carey Price on their opponents..........

Billy Smith, Ron Hextall, Patty Rooah.

[rafikz]

Billy Smith, Ron Hextall, Patty Rooah.

Those 3 guys sucked

[KoZed]

I don't get it. We want players with fire in their belly, guys who hate losing, who are uber-competitive, then when we get one, under the bus he goes. There's talk about what he's won and how he can justify his ego - well, he's still a KID. Anyone remember when he was having that super hot streak early in the season and during a penalty shootout he was taunting the opposition? How come no one was bitching then? I'm GLAD he got pissed. Glad he did something about it. I'm glad Gomez has taken exception and has done something about it. Bitch bitch bitch about how soft and uncompetitive the team is, then when they get competitive and display emotion, it's not good enough.

Worst fan-base ever.

You, sir, can't tell the difference between a player that's über-competitive and a player that's just acting out of frustration. If, say, Knuble goes into Price's crease and Price breaks his stick on Knuble's leg: that's übercompetitive. Nobody will want to go anywhere near the net later. Throwing a puck at the guys after a goal that was fair and square? What does it achieves? Players will stop celebrating?! Then trip another guy later again after a goal? That's not being competitive.

This is the annoying thing with Price. To some, he can do no wrong. To others, he can do no right. Anyone in the middle is caught having to argue endlessly and make nuances lost on some and the others.

[Fanpuck33]

This is the annoying thing with Price. To some, he can do no wrong. To others, he can do no right. Anyone in the middle is caught having to argue endlessly and make nuances lost on some and the others.

Don't forget the part where if you say anything good or bad about either one, you're labeled as a lover or a hater.

[KoZed]

Don't forget the part where if you say anything good or bad about either one, you're labeled as a lover or a hater.

Yeah.

Team Price and Team Halak. You'd swear the Habs share a fanbase with Twilight...

[Colin]

You, sir, can't tell the difference between a player that's über-competitive and a player that's just acting out.

To quote Jon Stewart: guilty as charged.

Seriously, though, there are ways of being competitive and ways of being competitive. Did he do the right thing? Perhaps not, but did he react with fire and do SOMETHING? Absolutely. If this season his reaction is still somewhat juvenile, I don't mind. I don't understand why no one thinks it serves a purpose. You don't think that shot is going to go through the player's mind in the future? Even subconsciously? Damn, scored and the prick tried to nail me with the puck? In terms of gamesmanship, there's little difference between that and intimidating a child. And if we were Caps fans, there'd be a LOT of people saying what Ovie did was just fine. As for tripping a guy at the bench, I see little difference between that and the other nonsense that goes on at benches constantly. If he's trying to get in their heads a little, or even if he's acting on impulse, that's fine by me. It'll stick with the opposition.

[bar]

Someone mentioned that the habs have been sinking for 15 years, different players, different coaches...you know whats stayed the same? Fans

Just saying..maybe WE are the reason for the teams struggles? Oh snap! Haha what have I done.

[Colin]

This is the annoying thing with Price. To some, he can do no wrong. To others, he can do no right. Anyone in the middle is caught having to argue endlessly and make nuances lost on some and the others.

Once again: guilty as charged. LOL

~~

I don't care one way or the other. This season they've BOTH been unreliable at times and great at other times. However, if it fulfills some need, some deep-seated desire, that you put that blanket on me, I'll keep my toes warm with it.

Someone mentioned that the habs have been sinking for 15 years, different players, different coaches...you know whats stayed the same? Fans

Just saying..maybe WE are the reason for the teams struggles? Oh snap! Haha what have I done.

You say that tongue-in-cheek.

I think there's more than a grain of truth to that comment.

[MK1]

To quote Jon Stewart: guilty as charged.

Seriously, though, there are ways of being competitive and ways of being competitive. Did he do the right thing? Perhaps not, but did he react with fire and do SOMETHING? Absolutely. If this season his reaction is still somewhat juvenile, I don't mind. I don't understand why no one thinks it serves a purpose. You don't think that shot is going to go through the player's mind in the future? Even subconsciously? Damn, scored and the prick tried to nail me with the puck? In terms of gamesmanship, there's little difference between that and intimidating a child. And if we were Caps fans, there'd be a LOT of people saying what Ovie did was just fine. As for tripping a guy at the bench, I see little difference between that and the other nonsense that goes on at benches constantly. If he's trying to get in their heads a little, or even if he's acting on impulse, that's fine by me. It'll stick with the opposition.

Considering the player he hit didnt even turn around to acknowledge it, I'd say it was pretty pointless and definitely a stupid play with 8min left only down 2 goals in the PLAYOFFS!

And even if they did notice it, it equates to a pitcher getting pulled from a game and the entire other team's dugout watches him throw his glove and storm into the dressing room. Sure you can point out the obvious that he's showing emotion, but in a totally negative way (same as Price) because now that whole team knows they are completely inside your head.

To think otherwise is naive.

[Colin]

Considering the player he hit didnt even turn around to acknowledge it, I'd say it was pretty pointless and definitely a stupid play with 8min left only down 2 goals in the PLAYOFFS!

And even if they did notice it, it equates to a pitcher getting pulled from a game and the entire other team's dugout watches him throw his glove and storm into the dressing room. Sure you can point out the obvious that he's showing emotion, but in a totally negative way (same as Price) because now that whole team knows they are completely inside your head.

To think otherwise is naive.

Man. Showing my true colours today. I know nothing, I'm naive. What's next? I'm a parapalegic transvestite?

Well. Guilty as charged.

of course....

I'm not sure I'd equate throwing a glove in the dugout with launching a puck at someone. Perhaps I'd equate tossing a fastball at someone when the game is already done. But that's just me. And I'm naive.

[BTH]

Yeah.

Team Price and Team Halak. You'd swear the Habs share a fanbase with Twilight...

I used this joke ages ago. You need to start coming up with your own material.

[MK1]

Man. Showing my true colours today. I know nothing, I'm naive. What's next? I'm a parapalegic transvestite?

Well. Guilty as charged.

of course....

I'm not sure I'd equate throwing a glove in the dugout with launching a puck at someone. Perhaps I'd equate tossing a fastball at someone when the game is already done. But that's just me. And I'm naive.

I didn't mean for it to come across as a flame to you specifically Colin. But a pro athlete, especially a goaltender in the NHL, needs to learn how to control his emotions and use them to his/his team's advantage, not the other way around. I just cannot see, after being lit up for 2g in under 1min, thus producing that reaction, how it can be interpretting as anything OTHER than a frustrated goalie letting his emotions get the best of him.

The 2min unnecessary penalty that resulted with 8min left in a 2-goal game is the real problem, and it stemmed from his inability to control himself. That is what I have an issue with.

[bar]

Haha maybe Price was letting his team know he can take dumb penalties too! He does afterall want to be one of the guys!

Edited April 22, 2010 by bar

[Colin]

I didn't mean for it to come across as a flame to you specifically Colin. But a pro athlete, especially a goaltender in the NHL, needs to learn how to control his emotions and use them to his/his team's advantage, not the other way around. I just cannot see, after being lit up for 2g in under 1min, thus producing that reaction, how it can be interpretting as anything OTHER than a frustrated goalie letting his emotions get the best of him.

The 2min unnecessary penalty that resulted with 8min left in a 2-goal game is the real problem, and it stemmed from his inability to control himself. That is what I have an issue with.

Fair enough.

However, how about someone on the Habs showing any emotion at all. I think if the bulk of the team showed the emotion that Price put on display, we'd be a better team overall. Despite the fact that I like Gomez, Gio, Cammy, Plex, and a few others, there have been way too few displays of emotion - whether it be childish or not. At this point, I'd like to see some passion from SOMEONE.

If we can't win games through pure talent, which is inevitably the case, then why can't we play with emotion and leave it all on the ice for each shift? Why can't we at least demonstrate to the fanbase and the league at large that we're a tough team to play against even if we don't stack up skills-wise? While many here will ridicule Burke and the Leafs, the fact is he puts players on the ice who care. And while the Leafs sucked this year, they played way over their heads, particularly in the last months. Why? Truculence. We have none. Ever.

I miss Koivu because he gave it all AND he was never pushed around. Yes, he took bad penalties at times, but at least they were as a result of passion and not laziness. When he took those hooking calls, generally it was because he lost the puck or was nailed off the puck and he retaliated by trying to get the player responsible. I'll take his lesser skills over the passion-less Kosty Sr any day.

If we aren't going to win games, I want to see the players make the opposition EARN a win. Not roll over. Price may have let in goals, but at least he was passionate about it. Frustrated, great. About time. I'm sick of hearing the party line - we tried, we didn't do well enough. I'm going to guess there was a reason he fired the puck - probably he was trash talked when it happened. Well good on him for reacting. Was it the best reaction? No. Was it better than the rest of the team? Hell yes.

EDIT: And no, Koz, I'm not sitting in the "Price Camp." If Halak showed a whit of emotion, I'd be behind him as well.

Edited April 22, 2010 by Colin