DON Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 11 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: You don’t hear that much about him except that he is supposed to be good. The article got me a bit pumped about Fowler and the fact that our team is amassing players that have top end potential. Again, he is a goalie, so maybe dont get too excited. Primeau still had better numbers and dont think had a stacked offensive team in front of him. NCAA Total: 70 138 4133:19 2032 44-18-6 2,00 0,932 NCAA Total: 39 83 2326:35 1121 32-6-1 2,14 0,926 Habs Prospects But he is doing very well for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 6 minutes ago, DON said: Again, he is a goalie, so maybe dont get too excited. Primeau still had better numbers and dont think had a stacked offensive team in front of him. NCAA Total: 70 138 4133:19 2032 44-18-6 2,00 0,932 NCAA Total: 39 83 2326:35 1121 32-6-1 2,14 0,926 Habs Prospects But he is doing very well for sure. As Commandant often says, goalies are voodoo so we can never be sure. I know people talked positively about Primeau but I don’t remember any scouts saying that he might be top end. I do like the fact that we have goalies like Primeau and Dobes in the system because Fowler will need to be better than those guys to get the playing time. It’s also great that Fowler isn’t being fast walked to the NHL. Time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 9 minutes ago, DON said: Again, he is a goalie, so maybe dont get too excited. Primeau still had better numbers and dont think had a stacked offensive team in front of him. NCAA Total: 70 138 4133:19 2032 44-18-6 2,00 0,932 NCAA Total: 39 83 2326:35 1121 32-6-1 2,14 0,926 Habs Prospects But he is doing very well for sure. Very true ... but a "stacked offensive team" can definitively contribute to the won/loss record, but doesn't always translate to "protecting" the goaltender stats-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 4 hours ago, GHT120 said: As noted in the post from @Habs Fan in Edmonton above, COULD the HuGo decide to pay a buyout/transfer-fee if they counted it against their 24/25 cap? The Habs have 2-2.5M in free cap space, even including 23/24 bonus overages and allowing for 24/25 potential bonuses; and, if absolutely necessary, could LTIR Price at some point in the season to increase that (at least avoiding the cap-shackles of Carey starting the season on LTIR). It also has to fit as part of an ELC, and with the limits on salary and bonuses, I don't see how you make this work. SKA isn't taking peanuts, and Demidov won't want to play for peanuts, so who is getting the limited money available? So theoretically is it possible? Sure, it is. You'd have to max the signing bonus available in an ELC to Demidov, he'd have to take less in salary in his first year, and SKA would have to take less than they want on a buyout. Its not an easy thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 11 minutes ago, Commandant said: It also has to fit as part of an ELC, and with the limits on salary and bonuses, I don't see how you make this work. SKA isn't taking peanuts, and Demidov won't want to play for peanuts, so who is getting the limited money available? So theoretically is it possible? Sure, it is. You'd have to max the signing bonus available in an ELC to Demidov, he'd have to take less in salary in his first year, and SKA would have to take less than they want on a buyout. It's not an easy thing. Do we know if Michkov had to pay to get out of his deal, and if he did, how much it cost? ordinarily, my preference is to have an 18 year old play another year overseas. But if Demidov is kept out of the KHL again, I'd rather bring him over to be with us, or even in the CHL (but that obviously won't be an option). Are we allowed to do a Laval only contract? If so, is that still capped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 17 minutes ago, Commandant said: It also has to fit as part of an ELC, and with the limits on salary and bonuses, I don't see how you make this work. SKA isn't taking peanuts, and Demidov won't want to play for peanuts, so who is getting the limited money available? So theoretically is it possible? Sure, it is. You'd have to max the signing bonus available in an ELC to Demidov, he'd have to take less in salary in his first year, and SKA would have to take less than they want on a buyout. Its not an easy thing. Thanks ... it needing to be part of the ELC was the "missing element" for me ... makes no sense I-M-O ... only made sense if it was just an additional salary cap expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 5 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: Do we know if Michkov had to pay to get out of his deal, and if he did, how much it cost? ordinarily, my preference is to have an 18 year old play another year overseas. But if Demidov is kept out of the KHL again, I'd rather bring him over to be with us, or even in the CHL (but that obviously won't be an option). Are we allowed to do a Laval only contract? If so, is that still capped? The report was that St. Petersburg SKA gave him a "compassionate release" related to his father's death last summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 6 hours ago, GHT120 said: The report was that St. Petersburg SKA gave him a "compassionate release" related to his father's death last summer. That release also gave SKA exclusive KHL rights to him for a couple more years as well, I believe. So it wasn't even a full release, just enough of one to get him to the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Most rank Habs group pretty high. 2024-25 NHL Prospect Pool Breakdown: Montreal Canadiens’ Top 10 - Daily Faceoff "I think Montreal is struggling on the left wing for all the depth they have. I can see Sean Farrell and Xhekaj carving out careers, but mostly in lesser roles." His top ten, seems OK. Beck/Mailloux maybe should be higher than Roy/Fowler? Demidov Hutson Reinbacher Hage Fowler Roy Mailloux Beck Farrell Kapanen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2024 Montreal Canadiens Top 25 Under 25: Departures, & Arrivals (habseyesontheprize.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Bottom of the pool; https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2024-montreal-canadiens-top-25-under-25-the-long-shots-54-43-prospect-scouting-reports-rankings/ Introduction #54 Alexander Gordin #53 Jack Smith #52 Emmett Croteau #51 Dmitri Kostenko #50 Ty Smilanic #49 Daniil Sobolev #48 Joe Vrbetic #47 Mikus Vecvanags #46 Blake Biondi #45 Rasmus Bergqvist #44 Ben Merrill #43 Makar Khanin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 What kind of freshman year can we expect? Inside Canadiens prospect Michael Hage’s silky smooth, cerebral offensive game - The Athletic (nytimes.com) “It’s just something I work on,” Hage said. “Me being a little taller, I still use a short stick, but I try to be rangy, find ways to turn guys’ feet. Just different things to be creative and open up space for myself. I don’t think it has anything to do with long arms or a long stick, it’s more just the way I try to attack guys, turn their feet, flip their sticks, just different things like that.” Logan Sawyer going to play NCAA this year. 2024 Montreal Canadiens Top 25 Under 25: The Projects (42-34) (habseyesontheprize.com) "He won’t be playing at the same level again this year as was the initial plan, but rather will begin his NCAA career, as Mark Divver reported yesterday. Whether that was his decision or a recommendation from the Canadiens, Sawyer will begin the process of removing aspects of his play that don’t work while adding things that will. He will be one of the most interesting prospects to watch this season to monitor how that progress goes." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 A deep pool. 2024 Montreal Canadiens Top 25 Under 25: The Near Misses (habseyesontheprize.com) #33 Yevgeni Volokhin #32 Xavier Simoneau #31 Luke Tuch #30 William Trudeau #29 Riley Kidney #28 Vinzenz Rohrer #27 Emil Heineman 26 Filip Eriksson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 2024 World Junior Summer Showcase: 3 things learned on Day 3 | NHL.com "The 18-year-old right-shot center (6-foot-1, 170 pounds), selected in the third round (No. 70) by the Montreal Canadiens at the 2024 NHL Draft, is in the initial phase of doing just that as an invite for his country at the World Junior Summer Showcase at USA Hockey Arena this week. "I know [Saku Koivu] enjoyed that time, and he told me how special the World Juniors happens to be," Aatos said of his father. "He reminded me to just go out there and have fun. These are super big tournaments and not everyone can be here even though they would want to be, for sure." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Hope he is right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 54 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Hope he is right I hope so too. "Skating has noticeably improved" is certainly a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 The Habs have lost the rights to Rhett Pitlick. He completed his course load over three seasons and has elected to exercise his right to free agency. I just checked in the media portal and he has been taken off Montreal's reserve list. https://www.habsworld.net/2024/08/habs-relinquish-rights-to-rhett-pitlick/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 But, no big loss is it? Now sure where on prospect depthchart he would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 30 minutes ago, DON said: But, no big loss is it? Now sure where on prospect depthchart he would be? Don't think HuGo et al are losing any sleep ... it will be interesting to see where (if?) he signs ... my GUESS is Europe somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 33 minutes ago, DON said: But, no big loss is it? Now sure where on prospect depthchart he would be? He was in the low 30s the last couple of years in the prospect rankings. I might have moved him up a bit since he was coming off a good season but he likely would have been close to that range again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Koivu is only Habs prospect projected for top WJC teams by The Athletic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 8 hours ago, DON said: Koivu is only Habs prospect projected for top WJC teams by The Athletic. It's going to be a light year for the Habs at the WJCs, a byproduct of drafting more Russians and re-entry players than a lot of teams. Austria didn't get promoted last year so Reinbacher won't be there either. (They're not letting him go from Laval to play D1A.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 What if Hage lights it up in Michigan? Is he a long shot even? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 28 minutes ago, DON said: What if Hage lights it up in Michigan? Is he a long shot even? He wasnt invited to summer camp. The 2023 draft group is deep and Hockey Canada typically takes CHL kids over NCAA kids unless the NCAA kid is undeniable like Macklin Celebrini. So its possible to get an invite in December to that camp if he really lights it up but hed need to be exceptional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 13 hours ago, Commandant said: He wasnt invited to summer camp. The 2023 draft group is deep and Hockey Canada typically takes CHL kids over NCAA kids unless the NCAA kid is undeniable like Macklin Celebrini. So its possible to get an invite in December to that camp if he really lights it up but hed need to be exceptional. OK thanks, didnt know how deep the team is, or how many dont get invited to summer thing and still make the team, likely few i suppose. Capt. Bogdan still a work in progress. 2024 Montreal Canadiens Top 25 Under 25: #21 Bogdan Konyushkov (habseyesontheprize.com) + "With hockey IQ in spades, Konyushkov is one of the smartest defencemen in the Canadiens’ system." - "It feels a bit wrong to say that skating is the problem for a player who comes from a country that is famous for its skating development. One has to wonder if his intelligence has kept him in the right spots so he never really had to skate hard to find success. He has been able to get into proper position in time at lower levels, but with the faster pace in the KHL he has been somewhat exposed at times." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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