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Yes, was at 1/4 speed and effort and not much too be gleaned from that exhibition.

 

Where might Kapanen play if stands out, 4th line?

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1 hour ago, DON said:

Yes, was at 1/4 speed and effort and not much too be gleaned from that exhibition.

 

Where might Kapanen play if stands out, 4th line?

Depends exactly how much he stands out ... personally, I doubt they keep him as a 4th liner unless he will get lots of PP and/or PK time as well ... and even then likely not.

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This year Hutson will have the home crowd pumped and late spring or next fall will be Demidov's turn.

Cant be many HabFans at the moment, who arnt optimistic about the rebuild. 

 

All games are at Eastern time

September 5 games

SKA Saint-Petersburg at Metallurg Magnitogorsk 10:00 am

Ivan Demidov -

Habs Prospects

 

I doubt the Habs tried to trade up for Demidov, but so many rankings had Demidov at 2 can see why other teams tried?

 

2024 Montreal Canadiens Top 25 Under 25: #2 Ivan Demidov (habseyesontheprize.com)

 

"Other teams were also aware of the ideal plan for Montreal, because after three selections had been made, several clubs tried to make a trade with the Columbus Blue Jackets to move up to fourth overall and poach Demidov away. .."

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6 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Seriously though, from the game clips that I’ve watched, Demidov is skilled and creative at a high level. 

AND ... KHL teams/coaches have a history of sometimes doing strange things with players expected to leave the following season.

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Not a great day in Russia

Habs Prospects

September 11 games

Dynamo Saint-Petersburg 3 Molot Perm 1 (Final)

Makar Khanin - wasn't in the lineup

Ugra Khanty-Mansiysk 2 Khimik Voskresensk 5 (Final) - Watch online

Yevgeni Volokhin - 4 goals on 17 shots (replaced by Maxim Kloberdanets at 10:58 of the 2nd period) - First career VHL loss
Dmitri Kostenko - wasn't in the lineup
Daniil Sobolev - wasn't in the lineup

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1 hour ago, dlbalr said:

An interview with Koivu in Finnish - the takeaway is that he feels he's a better player now than Saku was at this point in time. https://www.is.fi/sm-liiga/art-2000010689038.html


😮

 

I didn’t translate the article but it’s pretty bold to say that you as a third rounder are better than your first rounder father - whom was an excellent player. 

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31 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

I didn’t translate the article but it’s pretty bold to say that you as a third rounder are better than your first rounder father - whom was an excellent player. 

 

I should have phrased that a little better.  Aatos says he feels that he's better now compared to Saku at 18.  (His shot was a big reason for that statement.)

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Its still a heck of a statement since Saku was a first rounder at 18, in the NHL two years later, and looking like a superstar shortly after that (before the knee injury). 

 

I get that players need self-confidence but shot or not, this is a delusional claim. 

 

Consider also that Saku was shooting with either a wooden or one of the very early aluminum sticks at that age, I'd hope your shot with a one-piece composite is better. 

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1 hour ago, dlbalr said:

 

I should have phrased that a little better.  Aatos says he feels that he's better now compared to Saku at 18.  (His shot was a big reason for that statement.)


I hope the kid puts it all together. Imagine Saku with a better shot 🎉

 

Long, long way to go Aatos

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1 minute ago, Peter Puck said:

Many people considered Saku the best player in the world, not in the NHL during his final year before joining the habs.  Safe to say no one feels that way about Aatos.

 

Yeah, the Aatos considers himself better than Saku has the same vibes as 

 

Pavel Bure saying, my younger brother Valeri is better than me; or the Staal brothers saying Jarrett is the best of us; or a number of other such crazy claims. 

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So, reading it in Finnish, there may be a bit more nuance to the quote. Allow me to try translating ...

 

"It's too early to say (whether he could turn out to be better than Saku), but, for sure, I'm a better player than my father was at my age. It's still a long way to his career achievements, but at least my shot is already better than what he had at his best."

 

Now, Saku was a first-rounder, but his selection was based on his potential more than his capabilities in his draft year. Aatos was selected much later, so it's safe to say that (most?) teams did not see the same kind of potential in him as they saw in Saku. I really have no memory of Saku in his draft+1 year in order to compare to Aatos, though. I don't know how Aatos himself is making the comparison, whether it's from Saku, coaches or someone else, as he hadn't been born yet by that time!

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30 minutes ago, tomh009 said:

So, reading it in Finnish, there may be a bit more nuance to the quote. Allow me to try translating ...

 

"It's too early to say (whether he could turn out to be better than Saku), but, for sure, I'm a better player than my father was at my age. It's still a long way to his career achievements, but at least my shot is already better than what he had at his best."

 

Now, Saku was a first-rounder, but his selection was based on his potential more than his capabilities in his draft year. Aatos was selected much later, so it's safe to say that (most?) teams did not see the same kind of potential in him as they saw in Saku. I really have no memory of Saku in his draft+1 year in order to compare to Aatos, though. I don't know how Aatos himself is making the comparison, whether it's from Saku, coaches or someone else, as he hadn't been born yet by that time!

 

Saku's Draft plus 1 year

 

Regular season TPS (Finland Top League).... 47 GP, 23 G, 30 A, 53 PTS

Playoffs.... 11 games, 4 goals 8 assists 12 points. 

 

World Juniors 9 points in 7 games

Men's World Championships 11 Points in 8 games

Olympics.... 7 points in 8 games

 

 

 

 

The claim that Aatos is better at the same age, the exact quote... "for sure, I'm a better player than my father was at my age."   Its batshit nuts.

 

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Saku's draft year.... the previous season to that above. 

 

9 points in 7 games as a 17 year old, at the Under 20 World Juniors. 

 

Aatos at the same age didn't make the World Junior team, and had just one assist in 5 games at the Under 18.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Commandant said:

 

Saku's Draft plus 1 year

 

Regular season TPS (Finland Top League).... 47 GP, 23 G, 30 A, 53 PTS

Playoffs.... 11 games, 4 goals 8 assists 12 points. 

 

World Juniors 9 points in 7 games

Men's World Championships 11 Points in 8 games

Olympics.... 7 points in 8 games

 

 

 

 

The claim that Aatos is better at the same age, the exact quote... "for sure, I'm a better player than my father was at my age."   Its batshit nuts.

 


I'm all nostalgic for my favourite player now. 
 

Koivu was a very talented player 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Commandant said:

The claim that Aatos is better at the same age, the exact quote... "for sure, I'm a better player than my father was at my age."   Its batshit nuts.

 

 

It might be nuts but he doesn't seem to lack confidence. 

 

Anyway, for a 3rd round pick you might as well swing for the fences and maybe just maybe he will turn out really good.  

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