Lovett's Magnatones Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think there are projects, then there's Zack Kassian. If he projected to be a puck moving defensemen, solid third line center or defensive defensemen instead of a "power forward" he might be in the minors right now. His play is really uneven, and if he likes the bar/party scene Montreal isn't the place for him. Maybe Winnipeg or Deadmonton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Don't know why you named the Jets. Guess you haven't looked at the standings recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Don't know why you named the Jets. Guess you haven't looked at the standings recently? Well they just lost Evander Kane...but the point I was trying to make was about partying, he could use a quieter city if that's the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think there are projects, then there's Zack Kassian. If he projected to be a puck moving defensemen, solid third line center or defensive defensemen instead of a "power forward" he might be in the minors right now. His play is really uneven, and if he likes the bar/party scene Montreal isn't the place for him. Maybe Winnipeg or Deadmonton. They have lots of bars in Winterpeg and dEadmonton. It is only their hockey team that is dead not the city. If he wants to find trouble he will. I don't know maybe if Utah had a hockey team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 I don't know maybe if Utah had a hockey team? Random note - The Habs were briefly affiliated with the ECHL's Utah Grizzlies in 2002-03. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 They have lots of bars in Winterpeg and dEadmonton. It is only their hockey team that is dead not the city. If he wants to find trouble he will. I don't know maybe if Utah had a hockey team? Exactly. Also players party on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Random note - The Habs were briefly affiliated with the ECHL's Utah Grizzlies in 2002-03. only you would know that Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 only you would know that Brian. When these forums first launched, Utah was the current ECHL affiliate so it was easy for me to remember (since I have to pay attention to these things). Onto more 'entertaining' matters, Bryan Allen... It's likely he'll clear waivers tomorrow as any smart team would wait for the Habs to retain salary and get Allen at a cheaper price, even if it means parting with a late round pick. There are a few teams that could use defencemen: Winnipeg (5 of their top-7 out) New Jersey Minnesota (apparently they're looking for a third pairing guy) Colorado (I really don't like their bottom pairing, anything would be an upgrade) Edmonton For those who might want to add Anaheim to that list, the Habs can't trade Allen back to them as not enough time has elapsed. All of these teams have the cap space to take Allen on at 50% retention without sending a player back. However, as we've seen a couple of times already this year, the Habs have taken a player back in lieu of retaining salary. So, make your proposals, you could do Allen for a late pick if you want to make the easy guess. Or, try to find a player to take back that would reduce or eliminate the need to retain salary. Here's mine: To MTL: Kyle Brodziak ($2.833 M cap hit, $3 M salary) To MIN: Bryan Allen Why for MTL: They save on the cap and get a serviceable 4th line forward with an expiring contract. Why for MIN: Brodziak has dropped on the depth chart and see his ice time drop by nearly 4 minutes a game this year. Younger players have passed him in the lineup making him expendable while they pick up the veteran blueliner they're seeking for their 3rd pairing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Just throw Allen in on one of the deals proposed here for Yakupov or Kane, that should get it done 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 So, make your proposals, you could do Allen for a late pick if you want to make the easy guess. Or, try to find a player to take back that would reduce or eliminate the need to retain salary. Ooooo just the kind of thing I like to sink my teeth into. Let me just pull up the Armchair GM page on Capgeek.com and see what I ca-oh... Oh... I'm a little lost here, um... Allen for Ryder, Halak and a 2nd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Ooooo just the kind of thing I like to sink my teeth into. Let me just pull up the Armchair GM page on Capgeek.com and see what I ca-oh... Oh... I'm a little lost here, um... Allen for Ryder, Halak and a 2nd? You've got a couple of options to find contract info for players moving forward - Hockeybuzz's Cap Central (doesn't show bonuses) or NHL Numbers. Neither are as good as CapGeek (especially NHL Numbers' end-of-season projections which always seem off) but both will give you decent salary numbers for players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Allen For Stephen Gionta Smurfz Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Allen for Ryan White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Allen for Ryan White That is not a bad idea. Did I read somewhere that White was put on waivers. Montreal would def be retaining salary in that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 That is not a bad idea. Did I read somewhere that White was put on waivers. Montreal would def be retaining salary in that deal. I'm pretty sure White will clear. He's coming off of major surgery and just finished a 3-game rehab assignment in the minors. I suspect he's getting waived to extend that assignment. Also, even with the Habs retaining the max, Philly couldn't take on Allen for White, they're way too tight to the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I'm pretty sure White will clear. He's coming off of major surgery and just finished a 3-game rehab assignment in the minors. I suspect he's getting waived to extend that assignment. Also, even with the Habs retaining the max, Philly couldn't take on Allen for White, they're way too tight to the cap. Sorry Don it was a lousy idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Sorry Don it was a lousy idea. Not a serious proposal anyways, weak joke on my part! I wouldnt have a clue which team can afford/needs or what player would fit or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Not a serious proposal anyways, weak joke on my part! I wouldnt have a clue which team can afford/needs or what player would fit or not apparently we are in the same boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 shove over and make room for me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Fucale Tangradi Allen, 3rd 2015 & 3rd 2016 Yakupov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Fucale Tangradi Allen, 3rd 2015 & 3rd 2016 Yakupov A goalie that may or may not be ready in 2+ years, two mid round picks and two AHLers for a #1 overall?Edmonton traded for Derek Roy instead of getting him on waivers because of the 50 contracts rule, so that alone would make this trade a no-go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Fucale Tangradi Allen, 3rd 2015 & 3rd 2016 Yakupov I love that deal, but could even MacTavish be so stupid....I doubt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Nail Yakupov has fifteen goals and thirty-three points in his last 100 games. When does the "b-word" start being used? Remember when Pierre McGuire wanted MB to trade Subban for the 1st pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Remember when Pierre McGuire wanted MB to trade Subban for the 1st pick? Wasn't it that Subban needed to be added to the #3 pick to move up to get #1? How bad does that sound now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Wasn't it that Subban needed to be added to the #3 pick to move up to get #1? How bad does that sound now... Hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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