Guest Stogey24 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Joey is worth his weight in gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Clowe had 3 goals in 41 games after he was taken off Thornton's line. Some question has to be asked, were his goal scoring numbers the product of Joe Thornton... much like Cheechoo, and Glen Murray before him (who each got boosts of 20+ goals a year with Joe over what they did without him). I'd say yes. Any NHLer could score 20+ on a line with Joe Thornton. Even Asham or Colton Orr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Clowe had 3 goals in 41 games after he was taken off Thornton's line. Some question has to be asked, were his goal scoring numbers the product of Joe Thornton... much like Cheechoo, and Glen Murray before him (who each got boosts of 20+ goals a year with Joe over what they did without him). Don't forget Setoguchi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsTrick450 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Without Ryder, my lineup would be: Patches - Plek - Gio Galchenyuk - Eller - Gallagher Prust - DD - Bork Moen - White - SPOT I don't see a serious need. Gallagher has stepped up into a top six role, same to Eller and Galchenyuk. Let them play their sophomore year together with bigger minutes. Push DD down to easier assignments with Prust and Bork on the wings. Force him to get better defensively. Once the season is over, Gionta will probably go back to Jersey and we can look into filling his role. If we do add someone it will be all about moving Prust to a fourth line role with White and Moen. Or we could fill my fourth line right wing spot with Matt Cooke and become the most hated team in the league by far Would put Bourque on the 1st line with Pacioretty and Plek, see where that does. As for Gionta, I would try and trade him, he's got 1 year left with 5 mil. Sure, that's expensive but i'm sure you can find a taker. Probably a team with a lot of cap room could take a chance with him. To fill the empty spot on the 3rd line by Gionta, I would look at Raffi Torres: good point production and defensive play. And I agree, signing Cooke for the 4th line would make us a tough team to play against and it seems like he's learned to control his dirty play and just start to play a physical game, which is what he is needed for. As for the D, until Emelin comes back, I would have Tinordi start with the team and Bouillon as 6th. Once Emelin is back, I would have Bouillon as 7th and we're set. Eventually, Beaulieu could join the team if he's ready. Then we'd have to trade whoever isn't living up to expectations. And of course in nets, Carey comes back is the #1 with Budaj backing him up. I really believe it's do or die for Carey this year, he needs to be top notch...at 26 he's supposed to be getting into his prime and needs to be consistent all year long and steal games once in a while. Budaj will be a fine backup. Pacioretty-Plekanec-Bourque Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher Prust-Desharnais-Torres Moen-White-Cooke Subban-Gorges Markov-Tinordi (Emelin when he's back) Diaz-Bouillon (Tinordi once Emelin is back) Bouillon (when Emelin is back) Price Budaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=17016 Is this guy's rights owned by any other team? If not he seems to be the next top goalie out of Finland and i'd love for us to sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=17016 Is this guy's rights owned by any other team? If not he seems to be the next top goalie out of Finland and i'd love for us to sign him. Nope, he's a free agent. His play this year turned some heads. He's still subject to the entry-level system though so short-term, the money's probably better in Finland for Raanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Scenerio.. Crawford is from Montreal.. and older than Price. If this was the basis of a trade.. who would Chicago have to throw in to match value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Scenerio.. Crawford is from Montreal.. and older than Price. If this was the basis of a trade.. who would Chicago have to throw in to match value? Teuvo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Scenerio.. Crawford is from Montreal.. and older than Price. If this was the basis of a trade.. who would Chicago have to throw in to match value? Duncan Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I know we're just throwing ideas around. But trading Price now, when his value is artificially deflated by a terrible month, seems the very essence of poor management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 I know we're just throwing ideas around. But trading Price now, when his value is artificially deflated by a terrible month, seems the very essence of poor management. Plus it looks like there will be a surprisingly high number of starting goalies available for trade this offseason - Luongo, Miller, and Halak spring to mind while Niklas Backstrom from Minny and Mike Smith from Phoenix highlight the free agents. It's a deep market which means the return would be reduced as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Realistically, if Price were to go to Chicago, the return would have to be Toews or Kane. While the goalie market is deep this offseason none are good goalies approaching the prime of their career. All are in the prime or past their prime. Price isn't in his prime yet. That being said there's no way we're trading Price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Plus it looks like there will be a surprisingly high number of starting goalies available for trade this offseason - Luongo, Miller, and Halak spring to mind while Niklas Backstrom from Minny and Mike Smith from Phoenix highlight the free agents. It's a deep market which means the return would be reduced as a result. Bernier is available for the right price as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKross Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Realistically, if Price were to go to Chicago, the return would have to be Toews or Kane. While the goalie market is deep this offseason none are good goalies approaching the prime of their career. All are in the prime or past their prime. Price isn't in his prime yet. That being said there's no way we're trading Price. OnceThe Great One moved it became obvious that everyone is marketable. However Price is our goalie and unless you open the conversation with prime rib he is not going anywhere. The only thing that would change that is if he asked for a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 OnceThe Great One moved it became obvious that everyone is marketable. However Price is our goalie and unless you open the conversation with prime rib he is not going anywhere. The only thing that would change that is if he asked for a trade. Gretzky was traded to put money in Pocklington's pocket directly. He basically sold Gretzky for person gain, so really you can't say because of the Gretzky trade. Everyone is for trade for the right price. Price's price tag from Chicago would be a Toews or Kane + more. We don't have a replacement for him, so the assets we get in return would reflect that as well. We would probably have to get a goalie coming back the other way as well. Either way, not gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebo64 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 What makes Bernier better then Price? He has not proven himself other then to have "potential" after his name. People are fickle and I understand that but I believe Price will stay in Montreal but MB may play a Sam Pollock here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebo64 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Anyone think a trade to include Markov would interest another team out there? Just asking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 What makes Bernier better then Price? He has not proven himself other then to have "potential" after his name. People are fickle and I understand that but I believe Price will stay in Montreal but MB may play a Sam Pollock here. Bernier isn't better than Price. Bernier is a great backup that could potentially be a good starter. Price is a good starter with potential to be an elite starter. Anyone think a trade to include Markov would interest another team out there? Just asking! I think if Montreal would would be willing to trade Markov there would be quite a few teams out there that would be interested. He's proven he is still one of.the best PP specialists in the NHL. If his spot were to get filled there are plenty of teams that would take him off our hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 If Toews was available for Price I'd make that deal before Bowman sobered up. No way Chicago would ever consider moving Toews for Price. I can't even seeing them doing Price, maxpac and Subban for Toews and Crawford. Gretzky was traded to put money in Pocklington's pocket directly. He basically sold Gretzky for person gain, so really you can't say because of the Gretzky trade. Everyone is for trade for the right price. Price's price tag from Chicago would be a Toews or Kane + more. We don't have a replacement for him, so the assets we get in return would reflect that as well. We would probably have to get a goalie coming back the other way as well. Either way, not gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 If Toews was available for Price I'd make that deal before Bowman sobered up. No way Chicago would ever consider moving Toews for Price. I can't even seeing them doing Price, maxpac and Subban for Toews and Crawford. you have a very high opinion of mr toews I take it. Because if MB offered chicago that he wouldn't get out of the building alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I'd never trade that much for Toews either, but that is what Chicago would be looking for. However, as I've said if Toews was offered straight up for Price, I'd make the trade without any hesitation. you have a very high opinion of mr toews I take it. Because if MB offered chicago that he wouldn't get out of the building alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I'd never trade that much for Toews either, but that is what Chicago would be looking for. However, as I've said if Toews was offered straight up for Price, I'd make the trade without any hesitation. At the same time we would be looking for Toews + Crawford for Price + DD or something to that effect. Chicago has their price of Toews inflated and we have our price of Price inflated. It happens with players you want to keep. If you are going to trade them, the deal coming back would have to knock your socks off. Anyway, enough about this hypothetical trade sending Price to Chicago, it's not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Burmistrov is apparently avail in wpg. Speedy very skilled, 6 ft 180, should we be looking? maybe they take desharnais? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Burmistrov is apparently avail in wpg. Speedy very skilled, 6 ft 180, should we be looking? maybe they take desharnais? Bergevin said something in his presser along the lines of 'anyone with their own agenda won't be on this team.' Burmistrov in his young history has reportedly threatened to go back to the KHL (while under contract) and is now demanding a trade because he feels he isn't being played enough...and did so at the trade deadline as well. This after not even 200 career NHL games. Don't get me wrong, I like Burmistrov (a former Barrie Colt no less) and he'd be a useful player but those elements don't exactly suggest he's a high character player, which Bergevin made a point of mentioning about every third sentence in his press conference. As a result, I can't see the Habs pursuing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Bergevin said something in his presser along the lines of 'anyone with their own agenda won't be on this team.' Burmistrov in his young history has reportedly threatened to go back to the KHL (while under contract) and is now demanding a trade because he feels he isn't being played enough...and did so at the trade deadline as well. This after not even 200 career NHL games. Don't get me wrong, I like Burmistrov (a former Barrie Colt no less) and he'd be a useful player but those elements don't exactly suggest he's a high character player, which Bergevin made a point of mentioning about every third sentence in his press conference. As a result, I can't see the Habs pursuing him. Yeah good points. He doesn't get along with Noel, apparently, so maybe a little MT magic might help, his agent sez he is not going back to the KHL. If we don't give up much we could maybe take a flyer on him, his game seem to fit what we doing in Montreal. He was 1st rounder #8 overall so the skill level is there, but his head may not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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