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10 hours ago, dlbalr said:

If the Habs want to do something to try to stay competitive-ish while not giving up anything in terms of future assets, here is the framework of two trade ideas that might do that.

 

1) To NYI: C Jake Evans ($1.7M in 2024-25, UFA)

To MTL: C Jean-Gabriel Pageau ($5M through 2025-26, UFA) plus an incentivizer for taking on the extra year.

 

The Islanders are a team that needs to clear out money but their cap dump candidate is Pageau, not anyone on an expiring deal (I assume Palmieri is off the table).  He's overpaid, but still serviceable in the bottom six and can kill penalties.  He'd fill a useful role while allowing the Habs to move Dvorak, leading to #2.

 

2) To WPG: C Christian Dvorak ($4.45M in 2024-25, UFA)

To MTL: LW Alex Iafallo ($4M in 2024-25, UFA)

 

Iafallo effectively fills Laine's spot.  Winnipeg never replaced Monahan in free agency so they're thin down the middle, making Dvorak a useful piece for them.  With Montreal getting Pageau (who can still play 3C), it makes it easier to move out Dvorak with Kapanen back-filling into Evans' vacated roster spot.  The Jets have enough cap space to take on the extra $450K without an issue.

 

The end result is a little more than $3M in added cap space which means they'd be locking themselves into LTIR but with the injuries they have, it's probably going that way anyway.  Iafallo could be a trade chip at the deadline if things went well while presumably, the incentive they get for taking on Pageau's deal gives them another future asset.  Yes, it means taking on the extra year but for 2025-26, they'll have all three retention slots and might find a taker for him at $2.5M.  (Or they can keep him, buy him out, etc.)

 

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On 9/29/2024 at 3:37 PM, Dalhabs said:

Pageau is a potential 20-30 goals worth.

10-20 that he scores and 5-10 that he DOESNT score against us. 😁

hahaha

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2 hours ago, GNick said:

Would Jets do a Monahan type trade for Dvorak?

Jets are 7-0-0 ... normally, the only reason for them to consider a Dvorak trade would be if they were having faceoff issues ... but their four regular centers are 51.9% or better ... and ... Dvorak is having the worst season of his career, limited sample size that it is, in the faceoff circle (41.5%).

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1 hour ago, Commandant said:

No but Calgary wants a centre.

 

I dont think we are getting more than a 4th or 5th at best.

 

Nashville's looking as well while Winnipeg probably will need to address it at some point.  But yes, the return isn't going to be great given Dvorak's cap hit and the likely unwillingness of Montreal to pay it down (to save their last retention slot for Savard).

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I don’t have a trade proposal but maybe a trade target. It’s heavily reported that the Habs are looking for a forward with edge. 
 

What about Mason McTavish out of Anaheim? Big, edgy forward and a centre to boot. 
 

Is there a package of picks that could get this done or are we giving up a good player like Reinbacher?
 

 

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14 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

I don’t have a trade proposal but maybe a trade target. It’s heavily reported that the Habs are looking for a forward with edge. 
 

What about Mason McTavish out of Anaheim? Big, edgy forward and a centre to boot. 
 

Is there a package of picks that could get this done or are we giving up a good player like Reinbacher?
 

 


I don’t know if Hughes will embarrass himself by trading Reinbacher when Michkov is having a Calder season so far…. 

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23 minutes ago, Butterface said:


I don’t know if Hughes will embarrass himself by trading Reinbacher when Michkov is having a Calder season so far…. 


Yeah I don’t want to trade Reinbacker I’m trying to establish value. 
 

Can just picks get this trade done?

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27 minutes ago, Butterface said:

I don’t know if Hughes will embarrass himself by trading Reinbacher when Michkov is having a Calder season so far…. 

You are pretty fixated on Michkov but he really didn’t impress me against the Habs. Or was it the high-quality Habs defence that stymied him?

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56 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

Is there a package of picks that could get this done or are we giving up a good player like Reinbacher?

Given Reinbacher's injury and only having 11 AHL games experience, I suspect teams may be asking for Mailloux before DR.

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2 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

 

What about Mason McTavish out of Anaheim? Big, edgy forward and a centre to boot. 
 

Is there a package of picks that could get this done or are we giving up a good player like Reinbacher?


You are looking at a lot to get him out of Anaheim… too much for us to think about.

But at a minimum we would need to replace their 3rd overall pick and add sweetener(s). They’d ask for too much and talks would crumble. The only way they’d consider it is if they wanted to reset their rebuild clock and even then they’d ask for a top 5 pick and a young prospect probably. I just don’t see it happening. 


When we turn the corner and start showing signs of winning we will get UFAs considering our proposals on July 1st and we can fill bottom six roles like that. For now we are stuck hoping Dach will become solid behind Suzuki. Also Hage shows some signs that he will be solid 2C. Kapanen and Beck will be 3C and 4C.

 

Continue the build even though everyone says win now with Suzuki or we will be building forever and yells at me on here… there is still a couple more years of pain coming in this rebuild. 2026 is a much deeper draft than 2025. Then we are good to go for a long window… just maybe not with Suzuki in later years.

 

Penguins should have sold everything before they traded for Swedish Jesus. I thought they brought Dubas in to start over.  But nope. I wanted to trade Price before we signed him to 10.5 or maybe I said it after I found out we gave him 10.5…. Everyone said I was crazy. Moving on from Stamkos was the right thing for TB. I hope Habs management will be just as brutal in the future. 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Butterface said:


I don’t know if Hughes will embarrass himself by trading Reinbacher when Michkov is having a Calder season so far…. 

 

What Michov is doing doesnt ####ing matter.

 

Reinbacher's knee injury is why he wont be traded.

 

Not some narrative about Michov.  

 

I thought turn anderson into a fighter was the dumbest comment ive read.  This is somehow dumber.

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On 10/29/2024 at 6:54 PM, Prime Minister Koivu said:

I don’t have a trade proposal but maybe a trade target. It’s heavily reported that the Habs are looking for a forward with edge. 
 

What about Mason McTavish out of Anaheim? Big, edgy forward and a centre to boot. 
 

Is there a package of picks that could get this done or are we giving up a good player like Reinbacher?

 

McTavish is three and a bit years removed from being the third-overall pick and already well-established in the NHL.  It'd take Reinbacher and a whole lot more for Anaheim to consider it.  He's probably about as close to untouchable as there is on that team, to be honest. 

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1 minute ago, dlbalr said:

 

McTavish is three and a bit years removed from being the third-overall pick and already well-established in the NHL.  It'd take Reinbacher and a whole lot more for Anaheim to consider it.  He's probably about as close to untouchable as there is on that team, to be honest. 


I thought that because they are in an early rebuild they would consider moving him for picks because he slightly older than other young players. 
 

Sort of like Dach situation (sort of). 
 

They seemed light on defensive prospects but I’m certainly no expert on Anaheim. 
 

Oh well, I don’t think Hughes is doing anything anytime soon anyway. 

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2 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:


I thought that because they are in an early rebuild they would consider moving him for picks because he slightly older than other young players. 
 

Sort of like Dach situation (sort of). 
 

They seemed light on defensive prospects but I’m certainly no expert on Anaheim. 
 

Oh well, I don’t think Hughes is doing anything anytime soon anyway. 

 

McTavish is 21, he is not going anywhere. 

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1 hour ago, dlbalr said:

 

McTavish is three and a bit years removed from being the third-overall pick and already well-established in the NHL.  It'd take Reinbacher and a whole lot more for Anaheim to consider it.  He's probably about as close to untouchable as there is on that team, to be honest. 

No way they move McTavish. I think they will probably move Zegras by the draft. 

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Maybe we should trade Reinbacher and Anderson for Michkov.

 

Oh wait, Reinbacher is hurt and we would need to give a big sweetener to get rid of Anderson.

 

The people on these chat boards are so friendly.

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I was lucky I pulled up this page in private browsing otherwise I would have never seen this since I have blocked Commandant …. Please don’t comment on my posts because I don’t comment on yours. This will be my last rebuttal to your direct abuse.

 

It’s a pretty simple concept. I did not ask Anderson to be a “fighter”

 

I simply said he should play harder. Check more. Protect team mates so people stop giving Dach chin music or hit Barron - god forbid Hutson - out of their skates. It’s obvious that Xhekaj can’t or shouldn’t be in the line up every night for now. Struble is playing alright. Xhekaj will get his chances. (if he doesn’t get traded according to the rumours.)

 

We are a soft team without Xhekaj. We saw what our four big Dmen did vs Leafs, Winnipeg, Vegas. Why do you think the Leafs keep Reaves around ? Philly has Deslauriers ? 

 

Next year with Demidov in the line up we will want someone watching over him too.

 

Oh look at that. Anderson has a few more years on his contract. Is not a stranger to fighting. Is on a fourth line. Big body. Skates. But I have yet to see him come to defend a teammate (lately) … We don’t  need Matheson fighting Trouba. We are better losing a forward for 5 and a misconduct than a dman for sticking up for a team mate. And the beautiful thing is Anderson can also play (debatable but analytics says so).

 

We have rookies that need a big brother now. Anderson doesn’t have to fight unless teams take liberties… just needs to be a deterrent. 

 

Anderson could at least be a Deputy to the Sheriff … he makes a crap ton of dough… and we need more grit from him. The team is looking for grit. No reason he can’t provide grit. Or do you consider that beyond his skill set ?

 

He needs to play a meaner, harder game. Armia certainly can’t do it and he’s gone soon (I hope). We are stuck with Anderson because no one will take him off our hands for now without a huge sweetener. You want Evans to be the guy who prevents teams from taking runs at our players ? Dach to defend himself ?

 

Do you think Hughes should waste assets finding a player who likely won’t give us top third defence and a solid PK for the team like Anderson ? The new gritty guy will take up a position at the expense of a player already in our line up. Who do you want to remove ? Anderson is already in the line up and could serve as Deputy. More grit, more intimidation and certainly he can be the guy in the back of the oppositions head should they think to run one our guys.

 

Also I’m not the guy who brought up Reinbacher …. I’m only the guy who in tongue in cheek manner said Hughes wouldn’t  trade Reinbacher because Michkov is having a pretty good season so far… tied for rookie lead. 

If Hughes traded Reinbacher it would be admitting a mistake for picking him over the player every Hab fan wanted. Embarrassing for Hughes and the organization. Are you so thick as to not even understand satire ?

 

You think Philly would trade Michkov for a healthy Reinbacher now ? F-no.

 

If saying the name Michkov makes you go nuts, buckle up. You’re going to have 10 years of comparisons. We need to draft a Sergachev into the organization… or a  Brady Tkachuk…. those past decisions hurt too. Hopefully Reinbacher pans out like we hope. Develop thicker skin dude.

 

I don’t need to be writing here… this has been what ? 13 years of your life ? Only one month of mine.. I don’t need to have some dude chase everything I say because he thinks he’s the Enron of the chat group. I was 6 years away from Canada .. I get back and I’m excited about my childhood team. I post and immediately you come after me. I block you then accidentally pull up the site in private search and see you are still criticizing everything I say a month later. WTF dude. Get a life. 
 

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5 minutes ago, Butterface said:

 

We are a soft team without Xhekaj. We saw what our four big Dmen did vs Leafs, Winnipeg, Vegas. Why do you think the Leafs keep Reaves around ? Philly has Deslauriers ? 

 

 

I certainly agree with this comment. I am one of the biggest boosters of Arber on this board. He does need to play better but the skill and the heart is there. I know his teammates appreciate what he does for them. I read a comment from Suzuki recently in that regard. 

 

As far as your other comments go I will say this. I have been around a few years, managed people for a lot of years and certainly have had differences of opinion. There is a way to disagree with people without making them feel devalued. Not everyone has learned this and that's the way it is. I can get a little sarcastic sometimes but hopefully have not annoyed too many people. LOL

 

Go Habs tonight!

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2 hours ago, Butterface said:

 

I was lucky I pulled up this page in private browsing otherwise I would have never seen this since I have blocked Commandant …. Please don’t comment on my posts because I don’t comment on yours. This will be my last rebuttal to your direct abuse.

 

It’s a pretty simple concept. I did not ask Anderson to be a “fighter”

 

I simply said he should play harder. Check more. Protect team mates so people stop giving Dach chin music or hit Barron - god forbid Hutson - out of their skates. It’s obvious that Xhekaj can’t or shouldn’t be in the line up every night for now. Struble is playing alright. Xhekaj will get his chances. (if he doesn’t get traded according to the rumours.)

 

We are a soft team without Xhekaj. We saw what our four big Dmen did vs Leafs, Winnipeg, Vegas. Why do you think the Leafs keep Reaves around ? Philly has Deslauriers ? 

 

Next year with Demidov in the line up we will want someone watching over him too.

 

Oh look at that. Anderson has a few more years on his contract. Is not a stranger to fighting. Is on a fourth line. Big body. Skates. But I have yet to see him come to defend a teammate (lately) … We don’t  need Matheson fighting Trouba. We are better losing a forward for 5 and a misconduct than a dman for sticking up for a team mate. And the beautiful thing is Anderson can also play (debatable but analytics says so).

 

We have rookies that need a big brother now. Anderson doesn’t have to fight unless teams take liberties… just needs to be a deterrent. 

 

Anderson could at least be a Deputy to the Sheriff … he makes a crap ton of dough… and we need more grit from him. The team is looking for grit. No reason he can’t provide grit. Or do you consider that beyond his skill set ?

 

He needs to play a meaner, harder game. Armia certainly can’t do it and he’s gone soon (I hope). We are stuck with Anderson because no one will take him off our hands for now without a huge sweetener. You want Evans to be the guy who prevents teams from taking runs at our players ? Dach to defend himself ?

 

Do you think Hughes should waste assets finding a player who likely won’t give us top third defence and a solid PK for the team like Anderson ? The new gritty guy will take up a position at the expense of a player already in our line up. Who do you want to remove ? Anderson is already in the line up and could serve as Deputy. More grit, more intimidation and certainly he can be the guy in the back of the oppositions head should they think to run one our guys.

 

Also I’m not the guy who brought up Reinbacher …. I’m only the guy who in tongue in cheek manner said Hughes wouldn’t  trade Reinbacher because Michkov is having a pretty good season so far… tied for rookie lead. 

If Hughes traded Reinbacher it would be admitting a mistake for picking him over the player every Hab fan wanted. Embarrassing for Hughes and the organization. Are you so thick as to not even understand satire ?

 

You think Philly would trade Michkov for a healthy Reinbacher now ? F-no.

 

If saying the name Michkov makes you go nuts, buckle up. You’re going to have 10 years of comparisons. We need to draft a Sergachev into the organization… or a  Brady Tkachuk…. those past decisions hurt too. Hopefully Reinbacher pans out like we hope. Develop thicker skin dude.

 

I don’t need to be writing here… this has been what ? 13 years of your life ? Only one month of mine.. I don’t need to have some dude chase everything I say because he thinks he’s the Enron of the chat group. I was 6 years away from Canada .. I get back and I’m excited about my childhood team. I post and immediately you come after me. I block you then accidentally pull up the site in private search and see you are still criticizing everything I say a month later. WTF dude. Get a life. 
 

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so much energy wasted in answering to that bully… :unsure:


I do not think MSL knows how to use robustness as a tactic. He has neutered Xhekaj and Anderson. I think that we will see that type of play from Anderson after he is with another team.

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if you say stuff like Suzuki (who signed an 8 year contract) is not part of the core cause he's going to leave for somewhere else cause he'll want more money.... or that trading Reinbacher has anything to do with Michkov..... or that Anderson should fight and play like an enforcer at forward..... you should expect to be called out on it. 

 

Its a message board, meaning if you say dumb shit... I am going to point out why i disagree and why its dumb. 

 

If you don't like it, maybe the internet isn't for you. 

 

And I don't need to write this in 72 point font either. 

 

And if you want to ignore me, fine.... but don't make screenshots and write essays about it and expect I won't respond either. 

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