hab29RETIRED Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Looking back at Pittsburgh, *** IF *** : HuGo want to make a serious playoff push; Dubas was willing to retain $2-3 million*; AND Eric was willing to waive his NMC** could/should the Habs consider making a deal for Karlsson? Again, likely would hav to include Anderson or Gallagher for cap purposes ... which obviously complicates matters EK is playing 22:48 per game, -15 (but on the worst defensive team in the NHL), and 0.64 PPG (albeit on a team scoring slightly more than the Habs on the season) ... it would free up Savard or to be traded at the deadline, provide depth or allow Matheson to move back to the left side and sit AX most nights ... looking at this summer, if HuGo feel Mailloux is ready for next season it frees up a LHD (Matheson/Xekaj) to be traded * - rumoured to be willing to do so ** - was rumoured to be willing to waive to go back to Ottawa; his wife is from there so Montreal gets her closer to her family and fiends. No, nos, just say no!!! Karlsson has too much term and I think Dubas would have to eat at least half of Karlsson’s contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I would be hesitant to add Karlsson cause i want Lane to keep developping and remain the number 1 PP QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 53 minutes ago, Commandant said: I would be hesitant to add Karlsson cause i want Lane to keep developing and remain the number 1 PP QB. Fair point ... *** IF *** HuGo prioritize a serious run at the playoffs they might want to improve the Habs PP, which has slipped to barely 20% (tied for 19th overall), and have Hutson learn from EK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: No, nos, just say no!!! Karlsson has too much term and I think Dubas would have to eat at least half of Karlsson’s contract. He has two years after this ... not excessive if everything else can be worked out ... could be a great mentor for Hutson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 26 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Fair point ... *** IF *** HuGo prioritize a serious run at the playoffs they might want to improve the Habs PP, which has slipped to barely 20% (tied for 19th overall), and have Hutson learn from EK. I don't think that's a Hutson problem, though. It's the same challenge as with Caufield last year (and with Weber before), basically they have one player taking all the shots. They have multiple players with good shots, they need to be more fluid and more unpredictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: I don't think that's a Hutson problem, though. It's the same challenge as with Caufield last year (and with Weber before), basically they have one player taking all the shots. They have multiple players with good shots, they need to be more fluid and more unpredictable. NEVER said it was a Hutson problem ... but EK has a depth of experience that Hutson does not yet, and might help diversity the PP rhythms/flow ... also Hutson, or EK, on the PP2 might increase its' threat level and further diversity the attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 BTW one and all ... not really advocating for acquiring Karlsson, but the thought occurred and I can see potential benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 So, Dach…. I’ve said we’re probably not winning a trade that sends Dach away, but he’s brutal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 15 minutes ago, Lanes World said: So, Dach…. I’ve said we’re probably not winning a trade that sends Dach away, but he’s brutal Dach is making me grit my teeth in frustration often. There was a 6-7 game stretch where Dach was excellent and that stretch gave me hope that Dach just needs more time to recover from his injury, surgery, and year off. If Dach looks terrible next season then I’ll be worried - Perhaps Hage is going to be our second centre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Dach is worst in the league in plus minus(-27). His face off percentage is that of a winger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, Lanes World said: Dach is worst in the league in plus minus(-27). His face off percentage is that of a winger. His advanced stats are among the worst in the league. He has mostly been brutal with some good games as well. I still think we need to see what he looks like next season before we give up on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 29 minutes ago, Lanes World said: Dach is worst in the league in plus minus(-27). His face off percentage is that of a winger. Why do we care about +/- when there are much better stats available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 He’s last in the league. If he was doing other stuff correctly… maybe it would be a little easier to look past the -27. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I still dont care about +/- cause its a flawed stat. Wouldnt matter if he's first, last or middle. Its using an abacus while you have a smart phone in your pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 13 minutes ago, Commandant said: I still dont care about +/- cause its a flawed stat. Wouldnt matter if he's first, last or middle. Its using an abacus while you have a smart phone in your pocket There may be better stats than +/- but I am guessing that if someone has the worst +/- in the league then their other stats are poor as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 10 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: There may be better stats than +/- but I am guessing that if someone has the worst +/- in the league then their other stats are poor as well. My only point is that we should look at those stats and not the flawed one. Id also look at what are the differences between Dach's first 20 and last 20 games as Tomh suggested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Dach may be the worst in the league (tied) but second worst is Roman Josi (tied), third worst is Mika Zibanejad (tied) and 4th worst is Connor Bedard (tied). Players like Malkin, Celebrini, etc. are up there as well. Regardless of age, not all terrible players on that list. The players who lead the league in +/- are generally having good seasons and I would take me some Kirill Marchenko right now but I don’t think Dach is terrible because he leads the league in the - category. In fact, I don’t think he’s terrible at all. At least his ceiling. He does need to put it all together but so do other players on our team like Slafkovský (yes he’s younger). The potential with Dach is there though. Just needs to play with confidence and use his offensive swagger more often than not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanes World Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 40 minutes ago, Commandant said: My only point is that we should look at those stats and not the flawed one. Id also look at what are the differences between Dach's first 20 and last 20 games as Tomh suggested Just adding fuel to the fire. Pretty nonsense stat but that stat does basically tell the story of Dach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Yes but i also think all of Dach's stats are influenced by the brutal start. Hes been better as hes played more games A slow start was always expected given his injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Since 2024-12-01, Dach's 5-on-5 xGF% is about 44. 47% Suzuki, Anderson 46% Caufield, Slafkovsky 45% Newhook 44% Dach, Armia 38% Laine Near the bottom but not far from Suzuki's line. (Admittedly he gets easier matchups than Suzuki--or Armia.) 26 xGF, 19 actual goals while he has been on the ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 36 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Since 2024-12-01, Dach's 5-on-5 xGF% is about 44. 47% Suzuki, Anderson 46% Caufield, Slafkovsky 45% Newhook 44% Dach, Armia 38% Laine Near the bottom but not far from Suzuki's line. (Admittedly he gets easier matchups than Suzuki--or Armia.) 26 xGF, 19 actual goals while he has been on the ice. Not amazing stats for Dach but it’s miles above what it was before this period. Dach was literally ranked #704 in the NHL for xGF in the beginning so he has come a long way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 How many times has Dach been benched; just twice or more? He & Struble are not the coach's favourites, safe to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Dach has also been paired with other struggling players. Newhook isn’t putting up points, Laine is useless 5 on 5, Slafkovsky was struggling very badly when he was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: There may be better stats than +/- but I am guessing that if someone has the worst +/- in the league then their other stats are poor as well. that is a smart assumption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: that is a smart assumption like all assumptions.... its not actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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