hab29RETIRED Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, GHT120 said: My understanding, in bold:... the point is that Dobes has surpassed Primeau in the totem pole, but he (Primeau) still has some potential if he gets a chance to play regularly in another organization ... Nobody was suggesting moving Dobes I had edited my previous post, when I realized he may have meant Premieu. Still makes no sense. Premieu is unmovable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commandant Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 With Colorado adding Nelson and Coyle..... I'd see what they want for us to take Middlestadt off their hands. #2C possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Scratch that , its Coyle for Mittelstadt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I'm guessing with his low cap hit, RNH is a lock in Edmonton, right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 47 minutes ago, JoeLassister said: I'm guessing with his low cap hit, RNH is a lock in Edmonton, right ? Turning 32 in April, so not a long term fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 7 minutes ago, DON said: Turning 32 in April, so not a long term fit. But should we be absolutely looking for a long term fit at 2C ? For all we know, Hage could grab that spot in a few years if everything goes right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, JoeLassister said: I'm guessing with his low cap hit, RNH is a lock in Edmonton, right ? He left money on the table to re-sign with them and I think he has a full NMC so he's probably not an option. He's also not a full-time C anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 After all these years of gathering prospects and picks, wouldn't it be time to pay a high price for a C ? Do you see any team that have a great C but won't necessarily be using him to contend over the next few years ? Let's start with - Logan Mailloux - Anyone of our 2025 1st round pick (about same range as it stands) - Dach or Newhook Would that bring back a great C ? I don't mean Brock Nelson or Casey Mittlestadt. If not, then what ? - Adding another 1st pick, let's say in 2027, maybe ask for a 2027 2nd pick in return. Are we there yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 The big target that comes to mind, and he's turning 28 in May so not too old is Matt Barzal. Been close to a PPG player most of his career. A little off that this year and had some injury issues. So that's the concern, but he seems to be the best bet. I don't see that many high end C out there who would be tradeable off the top of my head, unless its someone who is damaged goods or terrible contract like an Elias Pettersson. Of course something else may shake out come summer time. The other option is to overpay in free agency for a Sam Bennett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Barzal is a great name yeah. To a lesser extent, with all the Cs the Kraken have, it would be funny to go for Shane Wright or Beniers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 4 hours ago, Commandant said: The big target that comes to mind, and he's turning 28 in May so not too old is Matt Barzal. Been close to a PPG player most of his career. A little off that this year and had some injury issues. So that's the concern, but he seems to be the best bet. He hasn't really been a centre since they went out and got Horvat though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 23 minutes ago, dlbalr said: He hasn't really been a centre since they went out and got Horvat though. Fair enough. Just off the top of my head, I'm not sure who is the guy available. That of course will likely change come someone's season ending in a disappointing way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterface Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Anybody want to put a price on this ? https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/chicago_blackhawks_connor_bedard_trade_talk_legitimized_amid_misconduct_issues/s1_17081_41923190 I mean… Beck or Kapanen and how many firsts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 hours ago, Butterface said: Anybody want to put a price on this ? https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/chicago_blackhawks_connor_bedard_trade_talk_legitimized_amid_misconduct_issues/s1_17081_41923190 I mean… Beck or Kapanen and how many firsts ? Some fans want to trade him. But does Davidson really want to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I dont see the Hawks moving him. That looks like a clickbait bullshit article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 8 hours ago, Butterface said: Anybody want to put a price on this ? https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/chicago_blackhawks_connor_bedard_trade_talk_legitimized_amid_misconduct_issues/s1_17081_41923190 I mean… Beck or Kapanen and how many firsts ? 3 hours ago, Commandant said: I dont see the Hawks moving him. That looks like a clickbait bullshit article I agree with Commandant ... but *** IF *** an offer were to be made it would likely START with Guhle, Slafkovsky, Hage and the 2026 firsts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterface Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 4 hours ago, GHT120 said: I agree with Commandant ... but *** IF *** an offer were to be made it would likely START with Guhle, Slafkovsky, Hage and the 2026 firsts Meh, I’m not paying that much… one player, despite his skill, isn’t worth poking holes in the whole line up. We could always take a shot with an offer sheet should he be slow to sign an extension. We’d be looking at 4 first rounders for an offer sheet over 10M. That is less than your package above. You’ve given 5 first rounders…. 2 of which have panned out… so worth way more imo. I’d offer one of Beck or Kapanen and both this years firsts and next years first (3 in all)… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 27 minutes ago, Butterface said: Meh, I’m not paying that much… one player, despite his skill, isn’t worth poking holes in the whole line up. We could always take a shot with an offer sheet should he be slow to sign an extension. We’d be looking at 4 first rounders for an offer sheet over 10M. That is less than your package above. You’ve given 5 first rounders…. 2 of which have panned out… so worth way more imo. I’d offer one of Beck or Kapanen and both this years firsts and next years first (3 in all)… They would match that offer sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Butterface said: Meh, I’m not paying that much… one player, despite his skill, isn’t worth poking holes in the whole line up. We could always take a shot with an offer sheet should he be slow to sign an extension. I wouldn't pay that much either. I think he is good but he has been overrated. The hype has been a little much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 17 hours ago, Butterface said: Anybody want to put a price on this ? https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/chicago_blackhawks_connor_bedard_trade_talk_legitimized_amid_misconduct_issues/s1_17081_41923190 I mean… Beck or Kapanen and how many firsts ? Reading through the article, the impetus for this seems to be that some fans emailed a beat writer venting some frustration, causing said beat writer to write an article about why moving Bedard would be a really bad idea. This comes on the heels of two 10-minute misconducts and now some are trying to correlate that with him allegedly being unhappy. Long story short, this ain't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterface Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 9 hours ago, Dalhabs said: They would match that offer sheet. I didn’t put a number on offer sheet yet… anything above 10M gets 4 first round picks as compensation if not matched. I’m sure there is a number that Chicago wouldn’t match... not that we’d want to pay it either…. But there is a number. 7x14 ? 7x15 ? 7x16 ? 7x17 ? Where would you bow out ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Butterface said: I didn’t put a number on offer sheet yet… anything above 10M gets 4 first round picks as compensation if not matched. I’m sure there is a number that Chicago wouldn’t match... not that we’d want to pay it either…. But there is a number. 7x14 ? 7x15 ? 7x16 ? 7x17 ? Where would you bow out ? So the trade off here is the extra in the trade package or the extra in the contract...... either way you are giving up something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 7 hours ago, Commandant said: So the trade off here is the extra in the trade package or the extra in the contract...... either way you are giving up something. Assets can be replaced, AAV is forever (7 years to be specific) ... too bad Chicago has so much cap space, otherwise they could "Kotkaniemi" him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 While HuGo have done a good job of locking up core pieces of the rebuild, I don't think a team with as many strong young pieces as the Habs wants to open itself up to a retaliatory war on offer sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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