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I have a feeling the Habs will never trade Price. Not even in a paper transaction like that.

 

He is the only truly great Hab of the past 30 years. I suspect the marginal gains of moving his contract will not outweigh the sentimental desire to keep him in the fold, forever. 

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5 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

I have a feeling the Habs will never trade Price. Not even in a paper transaction like that.

 

He is the only truly great Hab of the past 30 years. I suspect the marginal gains of moving his contract will not outweigh the sentimental desire to keep him in the fold, forever. 

 

I dont think its a big deal.  Datsyuk is still seen as playing his entire career with the Red Wings despite his final year on contract being as an Arizona Coyote.

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44 minutes ago, Commandant said:

 

I dont think its a big deal.  Datsyuk is still seen as playing his entire career with the Red Wings despite his final year on contract being as an Arizona Coyote.

 

Agreed.  It's not like he would even step foot in the other team's facility...it's merely a few pieces of paper moving from one file to another at the league office at this point.

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36 minutes ago, sbhatt said:

 

Agreed.  It's not like he would even step foot in the other team's facility...it's merely a few pieces of paper moving from one file to another at the league office at this point.

 

I mean seeing Alfie and Modano in wings jersies was weird or Brodeur playing for the Blues.  But that wouldnt be the case.  Hed never even put on a jersey.

 

 

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Anyone else having trouble coming up with trade ideas?   Does it seem like there are very few teams in an obvious rebuild.  This summer could clear a few things up but prices might be very high for free agents and trades unless more teams become sellers. 

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2 hours ago, Habs said:

Anyone else having trouble coming up with trade ideas?   Does it seem like there are very few teams in an obvious rebuild.  This summer could clear a few things up but prices might be very high for free agents and trades unless more teams become sellers. 

 

It's possible we see a couple more teams move into seller mode given that Gavin McKenna is being hyped up as the next generational type of addition.  But you're right, there aren't a lot of obvious trade fits, especially at the positions that Montreal needs to add (C and RD) as those are the two most coveted spots league-wide.

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Ive kind of warmed up to signing Bennett.

Some dirty sandpaper playing 2nd line C sounds ok with me.

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1 hour ago, Dalhabs said:

Ive kind of warmed up to signing Bennett.

Some dirty sandpaper playing 2nd line C sounds ok with me.

I think the Panthers are pretty much guaranteed to extend him.

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AFP Analytics (how credible are they?) is apparently projecting a 2x $4.9M contract for Granlund--maybe from before the playoffs, though? Two or three years would be a good bridge to the arrival youth at 2C.

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1 hour ago, tomh009 said:

AFP Analytics (how credible are they?) is apparently projecting a 2x $4.9M contract for Granlund--maybe from before the playoffs, though? Two or three years would be a good bridge to the arrival youth at 2C.

 

I like their work but they've come in pretty low on a lot of the bigger names this offseason.  That contract ($4,975,550 is the exact projection) seems light on term and salary. 

 

That has to do with the group of comparables they've picked for him, including Mike Hoffman's deal with the Habs from a few years back.  (Also Jason Zucker and and Vladimir Tarasenko's most recent contracts and an old Antoine Vermette one with the Coyotes.)  Granlund seems a tier or two above most of those guys.

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3 years 6 million would be a bargain to me and have me dancing in the streets.

 

I think contract values will surprise people this summer.

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29 minutes ago, Commandant said:

3 years 6 million would be a bargain to me and have me dancing in the streets.

 

I think contract values will surprise people this summer.

I’d be less concerned about the AAV than the term.

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I see two destinations for Bennett and Montreal isn't one of those.

 

1. Florida

2. Toronto (with Marner's departure cap space). Let's be honest,  Bennett is exactly Doctor's order for this team.

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8 minutes ago, JoeLassister said:

I see two destinations for Bennett and Montreal isn't one of those.

 

1. Florida

2. Toronto (with Marner's departure cap space). Let's be honest,  Bennett is exactly Doctor's order for this team.


To be fair, Bennett is exactly what this team needs too

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Just now, Prime Minister Koivu said:


To be fair, Bennett is exactly what this team needs too

 

And we will have the cap space to compete with the Leafs. 

 

Until he signs with someone, we need to be ready to present our offer (while also having plan B, C, D, etc).

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3 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:


To be fair, Bennett is exactly what this team needs too

 

2 minutes ago, Commandant said:

 

And we will have the cap space to compete with the Leafs. 

 

Until he signs with someone, we need to be ready to present our offer (while also having plan B, C, D, etc).

You're right guys. 

 

However, as much as I wish we were talking about Samuel Benoit, who would have grown up 1 hour from Montreal, this is Sam Bennett, who grew up 1 hour away from Toronto. 

 

I'm not holding my breath, not even the slightliest.

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9 minutes ago, JoeLassister said:

 

You're right guys. 

 

However, as much as I wish we were talking about Samuel Benoit, who would have grown up 1 hour from Montreal, this is Sam Bennett, who grew up 1 hour away from Toronto. 

 

I'm not holding my breath, not even the slightliest.

 

Which is why you have plan B,C,D,E etc...

 

There are reasons why all plans whether they be a trade or a UFA may be unrealistic and why said player could be elsewhere.  You need to find a 2C though.  Thats the job of GM.

 

Try for Bennett, try for Nelson, try for Granlund, Horvat, etc...

 

And hope to land one.

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1 hour ago, Commandant said:

And we will have the cap space to compete with the Leafs.

Arguably the Leafs should be closer to contender status, if they only could change the character of the team (which Bennett or Marchand might be able to help with). So, Bennett (or especially Marchand) might find that find more attractive.

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Matthews and Nylander only have 3 years left on each of their deals.  The real question becomes does Bennett sign in Toronto for a window of about 3 years then they're probably looking at some form of rebuild.  Or sign with Montreal, where in about 3 years their window opens until the end of Bennett's career.  In a case where it's between Montreal and Toronto. 

 

I'm also not so sure Bennett wants the pressure cooker of either team.  Especially with even the Panthers noticing how bad it is for Leafs players in that city. 

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All of it is just educated guesses into why a player may or may not sign.  Fun to think about but its hard for any of us to know what motivates these guys when it comes to UFA decisions.

 

Thats why i say keep any and all options open and rank them.

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3 hours ago, TurdBurglar said:

 In a case where it's between Montreal and Toronto.

Sadly, I'd be surprised that it came down to that choice ... outside the box prediction ... Colorado lets Nelson go and signs Bennet, if Sam gets to July 1st.

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It does suck that Montreal and Toronto have the same needs and both have cap space too. 
 

Habs have the trade route advantage though. Montreal has lots of picks and Toronto has very, very little. 
 

I could see both teams competing for Granlund (Bennnett signs in Florida)

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9 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

It does suck that Montreal and Toronto have the same needs and both have cap space too. 
 

Habs have the trade route advantage though. Montreal has lots of picks and Toronto has very, very little. 
 

I could see both teams competing for Granlund (Bennnett signs in Florida)

 

It sounds like Tavares is going to re-sign in Toronto, which means their needs may be more on the wing than at C.

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