dlbalr Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Today, Bergevin will meet the media (about 15 minutes from now actually) for the 'State of the Union' address. RDS will carry it live online, here's the link for that: http://www.rds.ca/en-direct Also, congrats to Bergevin for being a GM of the Year finalist which was announced earlier today by the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Some quotes from the Marc Bergevin press conference I gleaned off others:"Team slowed down near the end of the season, especially after clinching with the game against the Toronto. Carey had difficulty against them. All teams have difficult times though and we had a little bit of success near the end. Hard to pinpoint why the team slowed down.""I believe in balance. Team is small, but fast. You do not change the make up of a team over night. Balance is important. You cannot win with only big guys and you cannot with only small guys. You need balance and character players like Gallagher."(On why he signed DD early) "Easy to ask in hindsight. He had a good year last year and a good start this year. He has arbitration, the way it works with the points he puts up, arbitration would have given him more or less that money. He did not play well but he will bounce back. I do not have a crystal ball.""I don't care how big you are, if you have no character you aren't going to succeed.""29 teams want to get bigger. Everyone is looking for the same type of players. They don't grow on trees. We will look at trades, but I won't trade a young player to fill one specific hole. You build through the draft.""There is more than one need. Depth is the most important, especially in the playoffs. It doesn't occur at the deadline, you get depth at the draft. I am staying pat on this issue. Depth, character and speed are the most important factor to reach your goal and to win."The goal is to eventually to bring Galchenyuk to centre, but his performance will determine when that occurs.""Carey is still in the process of maturing as a goaltender who are the last players to develop. It's normal in a market like Montreal, Toronto and Philly...it is a hard position to play and really demanding and normal that they feel the pressure. Carey Price is 25, it's important to remember. It's hard to deal with pressure at that age. He showed character when he said he wasn't good enough. If a blueliner has a bad game it's a scoring chance, when a goaltender has a bad stretch it's a goal. I am 150% behind Carey Price.""Tomas Kaberle is a true professional. We will look to trade him before buying him out. We are not there yet.""You don't build a championship team through free agency.""It's a working progress with PK Subban.""(Louis Leblanc) took a step back.""The player who made the biggest progress in Hamilton was Nathan Beaulieu." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 One other thing worth noting from his presser is that Emelin hasn't had his ACL surgery yet, the swelling hasn't come down enough for them to do it yet. At this point expecting him to be ready day 1 next season is looking more and more unrealistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 If Emilen's injury is real bad I'll be really bummed about that.. He was a huge part of the team this year. We missed his physicality on the back end a lot. I'm wondering too, did Gionta's injure the same bicep as last season? If so I'm worried about the strength he has left in that arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 If Emilen's injury is real bad I'll be really bummed about that.. He was a huge part of the team this year. We missed his physicality on the back end a lot. I'm wondering too, did Gionta's injure the same bicep as last season? If so I'm worried about the strength he has left in that arm. It's an ACL tear for Emelin, that qualifies as significant. As for Gionta, it's not the same bicep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 This has probably been discussed before, but - is Emelin's injury likely to compromise him, or is recovery pretty much 100% these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Some quotes from the Marc Bergevin press conference I gleaned off others: "29 teams want to get bigger. Everyone is looking for the same type of players. They don't grow on trees. We will look at trades, but I won't trade a young player to fill one specific hole. You build through the draft." The question preceding this response was embarrassing. Whoever asked the question seems to think the answer to the team woes is "just replace the small players with big players with the same talent!" Damn, why didn't Bergevin think of that!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I'm a little surprised he admitted to being a "small team." I don't think that's a true as people think it is...maybe I'm wrong. It's slightly disconcerting that Montreal seems to be getting to Price. Complaining that he can't buy groceries, that he lives like "a hobbit"...a bit worrisome. Still, he signed a 6-year deal, so he can't be TOO dismayed by it all. In terms of the bigger picture, I love what MB said, constantly emphasizing character over size, stressing the draft, rejecting quick fixes, prioritizing building from within and constructing a long-term contender, not just a one-year lunge for the prize. This guy clearly has a vision and the discipline to stand by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 While I agree that character players are important, having a team full of Gallagher's won't win you the Cup. Eventually you need big guys, especially on defense, to shut other teams down. Tinordi stays up next year, Diaz gets traded to make room for another hulking defenseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I read that as him being realistic that getting big, fast, and talented is very difficult and everyone wants those players. Doesn't mean he doesn't want a few like that in the lineup. I also think big but slow doesn't help either. It is definitely about balance, but I am sure in private he would admit he would like to get bigger if he could. Remember that if you are doing it through the draft there is little short term help in the system, which comes from the drafting long before he showed up. It will take time to add some grit and size. He did well with Prust, so so with Armstrong. I look forward to,his moves this summer. He certainly cleared the cap space to make a move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsWEST Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 This has probably been discussed before, but - is Emelin's injury likely to compromise him, or is recovery pretty much 100% these days? ACL surgery has advanced to such a point that doesn't impact performance. The key is the athletes strength before and after surgery and how he works to get back at it. Quite often its all mental and that first impact and being prepared. I would look at a January return time frame, if he is ahead of the game maybe December. From MB's press conference, if there is still swelling a month after the injury is little concerning ( meniscus-cartilage damage?? ) A month without any strengthening or using is muscle groups in area will prolong recovery ( why I am saying January ). I suffered my ACL injury during soccer. I had the same surgeon as Pavel Bure's ortho. Surgeon, it took me about 10 months, but without the benefit of all the facilities Emelin's will have access to. I had a cadaver ligament done-allograft ACL surgery-. Which gets you to recovery that much quicker,without cutting into your hamstring or patella ( the other 2 common self donor sights ). Allograft seems to be the prefer method these days given length of recovery and why I chose it as well. GALCHENYUK was back in 6 months which is really amazing and a credit to his mental strength and work ethic, and working out. This must be seen as the exception. ( plus he did have his surgery soon after). Been involved with and around ACL injuries for last 15 years, and the recent dramatic improvements in surgery. There isn't reason why an athlete shouldn't go back to past performance, BUT ITS UP TO THE ATHLETE TO PUT IN THE WORK TO RECOVER MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY. Plan on January return anything earlier is a bonus. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 ACL surgery has advanced to such a point that doesn't impact performance. The key is the athletes strength before and after surgery and how he works to get back at it. Quite often its all mental and that first impact and being prepared. I would look at a January return time frame, if he is ahead of the game maybe December. From MB's press conference, if there is still swelling a month after the injury is little concerning ( meniscus-cartilage damage?? ) A month without any strengthening or using is muscle groups in area will prolong recovery ( why I am saying January ). I suffered my ACL injury during soccer. I had the same surgeon as Pavel Bure's ortho. Surgeon, it took me about 10 months, but without the benefit of all the facilities Emelin's will have access to. I had a cadaver ligament done-allograft ACL surgery-. Which gets you to recovery that much quicker,without cutting into your hamstring or patella ( the other 2 common self donor sights ). Allograft seems to be the prefer method these days given length of recovery and why I chose it as well. GALCHENYUK was back in 6 months which is really amazing and a credit to his mental strength and work ethic, and working out. This must be seen as the exception. ( plus he did have his surgery soon after). Been involved with and around ACL injuries for last 15 years, and the recent dramatic improvements in surgery. There isn't reason why an athlete shouldn't go back to past performance, BUT ITS UP TO THE ATHLETE TO PUT IN THE WORK TO RECOVER MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY. Plan on January return anything earlier is a bonus. Amazing post. Thanks. Hopefully Emelin has the right character makeup to both do the necessary work and not let it gnaw at his psyche. As the playoffs revealed, he is a MUCH more important player than we realized. (Say, what is it with us losing key defencemen to catastrophic injury anyway? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Thanks for the quotes MoLG, and good post HabsWEST Congrats to Bergevin for being nominate for GM of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I'm a little surprised he admitted to being a "small team." I don't think that's a true as people think it is...maybe I'm wrong. It's slightly disconcerting that Montreal seems to be getting to Price. Complaining that he can't buy groceries, that he lives like "a hobbit"...a bit worrisome. Still, he signed a 6-year deal, so he can't be TOO dismayed by it all. In terms of the bigger picture, I love what MB said, constantly emphasizing character over size, stressing the draft, rejecting quick fixes, prioritizing building from within and constructing a long-term contender, not just a one-year lunge for the prize. This guy clearly has a vision and the discipline to stand by it. Where did you hear that about price? That scares me a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I wouldn't worry about anything Price said. He's a country boy adjusting still to living in Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Yeah, that's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Here's Price. http://www.faceoff.com/sports/hockey/montreal-canadiens/Montreal+Canadiens+goalie+Carey+Price+faces/8374106/story.html Draw your own conclusions, but I wouldn't be panicking about it. He definitely comes off as someone who sees himself as still learning, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 While I agree that character players are important, having a team full of Gallagher's won't win you the Cup. Eventually you need big guys, especially on defense, to shut other teams down. Tinordi stays up next year, Diaz gets traded to make room for another hulking defenseman. And I think his point was a team full of hal gills won't either or chara for that matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 And I think his point was a team full of hal gills won't either or chara for that matter I'll tell you what though i'd take 5 Milan Lucics on my team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I'll tell you what though i'd take 5 Milan Lucics on my team Did I miss something? when did Lucic become such a star? Too much of anything is a bad thing and that is what MB is trying to say. A well balanced team can do it all. Having 5 guys like Lucic who can take stupid penalties at any time or place may not be the answer. I mean there has been talk of the Bruins getting rid of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Did I miss something? when did Lucic become such a star? Too much of anything is a bad thing and that is what MB is trying to say. A well balanced team can do it all. Having 5 guys like Lucic who can take stupid penalties at any time or place may not be the answer. I mean there has been talk of the Bruins getting rid of him. If the Habs could have 3 lines with 1 Lucic and 1 line with 2 the Habs would be unstoppable. Sure they would take some penalty's but in the playoffs for the most part they would get away with murder. Opposing teams defencemen would be hobbled after 2 or 3 games. Milan is the best power forward in the NHL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Five Lucic's = 35 goals Desharnais + Gionta + Ryder = 40 goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 "Milan is the best power forward in the NHL!" Really? I wonder if we could take a pole on that? I think he was one of the best last year and the year before but he did not have a good year, 27 points? 7 goals? Thanks molg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwihab Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 While I agree that character players are important, having a team full of Gallagher's won't win you the Cup. Eventually you need big guys, especially on defense, to shut other teams down. Tinordi stays up next year, Diaz gets traded to make room for another hulking defenseman. MB only said hes looking for guys with character, like Gallagher, you have extrapolated that to mean that only small guys have character. He has stated he wants a balanced team of size and speed, but with a common denominator of character. That's my interpretation at least. In summary, you don't have to be small to have character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebo64 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Agree, Prust has character! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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