Lovett's Magnatones Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I've been following along today on my breaks, when this team falls apart, it's must see TV. I have to agree with Brian Wilde said on Marinaro's show. How ridiculous was it for MB to have a press conference where he all but said "welp! See you guys in the fall." Nilan seems to be suggesting some sort of complicity between the players backing the coach in the press conferences after the games, and them not getting their "balls busted" and easy practices. I'm not ready to say that, but something like this shows how things are starting to take on a live of their own. I don't think it's an antidote, but firing MT is the right decision to make. Because he deserves it, and because there are two and a half months left, and we're a small step away from seeing Habs jerseys fly on the ice. Things are going to get ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Let's hope Molson stays out of it. I accept that owners have a voice, but when they start 'forcing the GM's hand' is when an organization really gets into longer-term trouble. The only thing is right now this team seems to have no one able to make a decision. MB can't, Le Genius is out of ideas. Somebody gotta do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 The only thing is right now this team seems to have no one able to make a decision. MB can't, Le Genius is out of ideas. Somebody gotta do something. Only if we are determined to try to scrape into the playoffs and lose in the first round. If we're thinking in terms of the big picture, it's not clear that 'somebody gotta do something' until the trade deadline and off-season. This is kinda what I mean. Leave the professionals alone to exercise their best judgement. Panicked ownership making hockey moves? No thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Only if we are determined to try to scrape into the playoffs and lose in the first round. If we're thinking in terms of the big picture, it's not clear that 'somebody gotta do something' until the trade deadline and off-season. This is kinda what I mean. Leave the professionals alone to exercise their best judgement. Panicked ownership making hockey moves? No thanks Which professionals would you be speaking of? Right now I can't see any. The team is is in complete disarray. I like MB (mark down Marc) but as Chris Nilan said "he has painted himself into a corner by saying he will not fire the coach" He should have given the standard, he is our coach and no changes are planned at this time. GM's give coaches a vote of confidence all the time, it is known as the kiss of death. Mark Down put the kiss of death on this season. And I guess that goes right into what you are saying, the season is over no point to firing him now, do it in the off season. He has probably already discussed that with Molson. This team needs a new "process" next year. They also need a goal scorer and a healthy Carey Price. There are people saying we should trade Price, how crazy is that? Last time we traded a franchise goalie, it did not work so good. To me Price, PK, Patches, and the 2 gally's are untouchable, other than that who cares. Mind you that don't leave too much to trade cause the rest of them are either bums or over the hill and on the downslide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 In the Montreal Gazette, Wednesday January 27, on the Hockey Inside Out site there is a video of Chris Nilan, Stu Cowan, Jack Todd and a lady I didn't know, they were discussing Michel Therrien and it wasn't pretty. It's a video and for the first 7 or 8 minutes the discussion is all centered on MT. Nilan says there is no teaching, he watched a practice and said the players seemed to be just going through the motions and together they were all unanimous that a coaching change has to be made. They said they had defended MT in the past but they feel he's lost control, is doing nothing to correct what happening and that there is no way they can turn things around the way things are going right now. It kind of surprised me a bit as to how strong they felt. I have always been a MT supporter but I'm beginning to lean towards maybe a coaching change is now the answer. Has MB painted himself into a corner by saying he will not fire MT?? Doubt it. That's usually the kiss of death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Yes Cowen-Nilan-Todd and X do a short Habs talkshow every Wed. and is posted on hockey insideout (or Montreal Gazette?) website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I have no idea how to right the ship, but I like Therrien and I like the reputation the room has had. MT had us firing pretty darned well for a while, and I don't think his efforts are too likely to be the problem. But.. as my brother used to say. What the hell do I know? Weird year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickass528 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Enough is enough with hiring the best French coach lets hire the best coach out there I don't care if he is Chines, Greek, I want to see the cup come back home Therrien could not do it the first time around and can't do it now he was and is a s@#t coach the players know that and so do the fans any monkey can coach the Habs when you have the world best goalie. Lets get a head start for next year fire Therrien now the players are not playing for him anyway. NHL please give Quebec back a hockey team so the hard core Frenchman's can have there French coach, players, ect and leave the Habs alone so they can hire any one they see fit and not be pressured into hiring the best French coach and yes I do live in Montreal Quebec witch is in Canada. I have been and will be a big Habs fan GO HABS GO 2017 bring home the CUP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 You did notice that zero hab forwards attended the All-Star game again this year. Is that due to coaching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Enough is enough with hiring the best French coach lets hire the best coach out there I don't care if he is Chines, Greek, I want to see the cup come back home Therrien could not do it the first time around and can't do it now he was and is a s@#t coach the players know that and so do the fans any monkey can coach the Habs when you have the world best goalie. Lets get a head start for next year fire Therrien now the players are not playing for him anyway. NHL please give Quebec back a hockey team so the hard core Frenchman's can have there French coach, players, ect and leave the Habs alone so they can hire any one they see fit and not be pressured into hiring the best French coach and yes I do live in Montreal Quebec witch is in Canada. I have been and will be a big Habs fan GO HABS GO 2017 bring home the CUP Montreal had its highest percentage of french players when Quebec City had a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Montreal had its highest percentage of french players when Quebec City had a team. Different league these days. Having the Nordiques back would do WONDERS for the media circus. There might even be a chance we could hire the actual best coach available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I doubt it. Both teams would be competing for the hard-core francophone fans, and the Habs know that no matter what they do, they would lose very few Anglophone fans. This would create an even bigger competition to prove that they are full of pure-laine Quebecois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I doubt it. Both teams would be competing for the hard-core francophone fans, and the Habs know that no matter what they do, they would lose very few Anglophone fans. This would create an even bigger competition to prove that they are full of pure-laine Quebecois. We'd lose that competition, and be set free because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Didn't lose that competition last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Didn't lose that competition last time. Different league now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 It would be less realistic for two teams stockpiling and overpaying for francophones. Not that the Habs have been doing that lately, however, and I doubt we'd change course that much. The Nordiques' mission statement would be to have at least 7 or 8 French guys on the squad, and our policy probably wouldn't just flip. It would hurt our overall revenue, but we'd still be #2 in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 The Nordiques thing will NOT set the Habs free of the burden of being an affirmative-action program for francophone managers and coaches. Quite the reverse. Anyone who thinks the Nordiques will help us win in any way, shape, or form is out of their minds IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I hope Quebec gets a team ASAP. Cant wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 Different league these days. Having the Nordiques back would do WONDERS for the media circus. There might even be a chance we could hire the actual best coach available. You mean we don't have the best coach available? How can that be? He has a magical blender and a big bottle of Scotch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I hope Quebec never gets a team. I'd rather the city of Montreal get a second team. Screw the Nordiques fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I hope Quebec never gets a team. I'd rather the city of Montreal get a second team. Screw the Nordiques fans. I love the hatred, and fully endorse it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l<OV4L3V Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Canada's currency is borderline 3rd world now. Putting a team in Quebec is less likely to happen than Donald Trump shaving his head bald for charity. The only expansion team that makes sense right now is Las Vegas; mainly because the casinos can eat up a lot of seats and give tickets away as comps. Bettman would be stupid not to place a team there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I love the hatred, and fully endorse it The only thing I ever liked about Eric Lindros was that he scorned the Quebec Nordiques, forced them to trade him and then after he retired and got married to a French Canadian woman, wore a Montreal Canadiens sweater with his last name on it at the post-wedding ceremony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 The only thing I ever liked about Eric Lindros was that he scorned the Quebec Nordiques, forced them to trade him and then after he retired and got married to a French Canadian woman, wore a Montreal Canadiens sweater with his last name on it at the post-wedding ceremony. Really? I never heard that one. Maybe he wasn't such an asshat after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The only thing I ever liked about Eric Lindros was that he scorned the Quebec Nordiques, forced them to trade him and then after he retired and got married to a French Canadian woman, wore a Montreal Canadiens sweater with his last name on it at the post-wedding ceremony.He was a fackin man amongst boys. I have some buddies who know him, apparently a pretty good guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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