The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Plekanec actually cost this team a couple goals though. One was a back breaker with 1 second left in the game. It wasn't a good post season for him I thought Pleks was very good on faceoffs and defensively EXCEPT for those two critical, series-defining blunders. Hard to overlook those, however, when he's supposed to be the shutdown C eating tough defensive minutes, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Plekanec is supposed, as an NHLer, to be able to perform what we call a one-timer. And he's not. ALWAYS stop the puck and then shoot it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Plekanec is supposed, as an NHLer, to be able to perform what we call a one-timer. And he's not. ALWAYS stop the puck and then shoot it. And.... more often than not, miss the net. Plek for #3 center locked in there... not traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I'd be surprised to see what the guy who -1 rep me on Plekanec's ability to shoot a one-timer has to say about it. Only during these playoffs, he missed, on top of my head, two GOLDEN opportunities on a one-timer because he took an extra second by stopping the puck instead of a clear one-timer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 I -1 you because is such a ticky-tac item and not true, you said he did it twice, whoopdee freakin dah! Did you count Pacioretty, Subban, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, DD opportunities for one timers in playoffs? How many did they bury? And as an NHLer #14 has nailed dozens of one-time goals, in particular on the PP from Markov cross-zone pass. But if you want to complain about something trivial like that, fly at er, I simply don't agree at all and seems just another negative observation from left field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I -1 you because is such a ticky-tac item and not true, you said he did it twice, whoopdee freakin dah! Did you count Pacioretty, Subban, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, DD opportunities for one timers in playoffs? How many did they bury? And as an NHLer #14 has nailed dozens of one-time goals, in particular on the PP from Markov cross-zone pass. But if you want to complain about something trivial like that, fly at er, I simply don't agree at all and seems just another negative observation from left field. Premium chances as Plekanec had on the 2 on 1 when Bishop glove saved him ? None. But seriously, am I the ONLY ONE who complains about Plekanec's lack of ability to shoot a one-timer ? He does that like once a week. Has a quality chance for a one-timer, stops the puck and finally takes a shot right at the goalie who had an extra second to move in position. This and how many freaking time he takes a wild slapshot during the PP, misses the net and get out of the attaking zone. That is really ALL the beef I have with Plekanec. Otherwise, I'm definitely pushing on moving DD and keeping him because of all the other things that he brings. But take a look back at this 2 on 1 (game 3 I believe). There is "not being clutch at all" and then, there is this sequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Who wants to bet Plekanec is moved before the start of next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCPetit Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Glad to see that Plekanec's contribution to the team has become a central topic. Listening to Mike Bossy, I was pleased to hear him say exactly what I have been telling all along. He has no business centering the first two lines according to him, because he doesn't have the abitility to feed his wingers. He also recalled that the no. 14 was not as good as expected defensively. According to him, he made too many mistakes resulting in important goals to the Bolts. Bossy likes him, but no higher than a 3rd line center. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 How many 3rd line centers do we have or need? Pleks 3rd line Eller 3rd line mitchell 3rd or 4th flynn 3rd or 4th . We need a #1 and a #2 , the guys we have are just not good enough. I really don't care who goes or who stays as long as we have a #1 and a #2 center. And no DD is not the answer to either of those positions. I love the guys heart and his work ethic, but he needs to grow 6 to 8 inches and gain 40 lbs of muscle. Galchenyuk could be if he can get his head out of his ass and play up to his talent. He is only 20 so he certainly has the time and the skill set to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 Glad to see that Plekanec's contribution to the team has become a central topic. Listening to Mike Bossy, I was pleased to hear him say exactly what I have been telling all along. He has no business centering the first two lines according to him, because he doesn't have the abitility to feed his wingers. He also recalled that the no. 14 was not as good as expected defensively. According to him, he made too many mistakes resulting in important goals to the Bolts. Bossy likes him, but no higher than a 3rd line center. That's it. Yup AK46 and AK27 really had poor production as his wingmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 OMG it is becoming a history lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 Glad to see that Plekanec's contribution to the team has become a central topic. Listening to Mike Bossy, I was pleased to hear him say exactly what I have been telling all along. He has no business centering the first two lines according to him, because he doesn't have the abitility to feed his wingers. He also recalled that the no. 14 was not as good as expected defensively. According to him, he made too many mistakes resulting in important goals to the Bolts. Bossy likes him, but no higher than a 3rd line center. That's it. Bossy is what exactly? Which NHL team does/has he coach or manage? Maybe Bergevin should simply poll all oldtimer NHLers to figure out what to do. OMG it is becoming a history lesson. Yes with a Bossy reference you mean, I found that funny also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Bravo DD!!! I didn't think he had it in him, but he pissed all over MT's system haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 You can't really overlook 60pts though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Yup AK46 and AK27 really had poor production as his wingmen. 7 years and over 600 games ago he dined out on Kovy for a season. since then? 3rd line center getting way too much prime ice time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 You can't really overlook 60pts though Center, first line minutes, powerplay, penalty kill, ot....60 pts would be the minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Premium chances as Plekanec had on the 2 on 1 when Bishop glove saved him ? None. But seriously, am I the ONLY ONE who complains about Plekanec's lack of ability to shoot a one-timer ? He does that like once a week. Has a quality chance for a one-timer, stops the puck and finally takes a shot right at the goalie who had an extra second to move in position. This and how many freaking time he takes a wild slapshot during the PP, misses the net and get out of the attaking zone. That is really ALL the beef I have with Plekanec. Otherwise, I'm definitely pushing on moving DD and keeping him because of all the other things that he brings. But take a look back at this 2 on 1 (game 3 I believe). There is "not being clutch at all" and then, there is this sequence. You are right. Pleks does not have a one timer. If it makes you feel better Kinuckles mentioned on his show too. I'd be surprised to see what the guy who -1 rep me on Plekanec's ability to shoot a one-timer has to say about it. Only during these playoffs, he missed, on top of my head, two GOLDEN opportunities on a one-timer because he took an extra second by stopping the puck instead of a clear one-timer. yep I thought Pleks was very good on faceoffs and defensively EXCEPT for those two critical, series-defining blunders. Hard to overlook those, however, when he's supposed to be the shutdown C eating tough defensive minutes, that's for sure. "pleks was good do face offs"....... great , pleks replaced Manny Yup. This is the perfect time to throw a 21 year old under the bus after a 46 point season because he underperformed in the playoffs. Nope, its time to ditch 5 million dollar 3rd line centerman playing first line powerplay..............and costing us play off games with horrible play including bone headed give aways. Not to mention cant score or set any one up to score to save his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 So when we replace him Eller and DLR is our third line center, you're ok with missing the playoffs? Plekanec laid an egg, but to pretend he isn't a good or useful player is ridiculous. His lack of point production has a lot to do with the lack of weapons the Habs had. he is the king of "Lack of weapons the habs have" NO 1 CENTERMAN ....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I have never seen Pleks even attempt a one-timer, let alone connect on one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 That's it...find a One-Timer specialist! Sweet jesus why didn't anyone think of that long ago? But, I highly doubt Tomas Plekanec will be traded, however bad he is at one-timers, for $5m/yr you cant beat his 2 way game. Eller has said he wants to be more involved in offensive situations, maybe he will be more of PP and Plekanec less, who knows may be better? (PP couldnt get any worse) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I'm the first one to defend Plekanec. I like him, I thought he had a good playoff performance, overall. He's reliable and a key part of this team, and he's not overpaid. So with all that said, my recommendation would be, TRADE HIM NOW. He's 32 years old, there's one year left on his contract. He's going to want at least a 3 year extension, at what he's making now or better. In three years he won't be worth what he's making now. I'd keep Desharnais. His playoff woes were obvious - he is a playmaker, not a goal scorer, and nobody on his lines could bury the puck. He made some brilliant setup moves that nobody capitalized on. Most seasons, he gets more points than Plekanec (this season was an exception), and he's 4 years younger and much cheaper. You won't get another perennial 50 point center for 3.5 million or less. What do you think Soderberg, who had far less production than DD, will make on the off-season? Keep DD. Trade Plek. This is not because I don't think Plekanec is worthwhile. It's because he IS worthwhile, and at this time next year, if he were still with us, and we were smart, we'd be letting him walk. Trade him now and you can get value for him. Any trade involving Plekanec is going to require another center coming this way, and to get better than Plek, we'll need to sweeten the deal. But I think he should be the primary value we give in any trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 Plekanec and Markov are gonna retire still a Hab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Saku Koivu should have retired a hab. We've abandoned sentiment. Now it's about making a better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I think it's fair to say that everyone would like an upgrade at center. Whether that is Chucky to become the player we all hope he will be, or to package together some lesser talent to acquire a star center. Is it likely that Chucky can do that next year? There is a chance but I'm not holding my breath on it just yet. Is there some centers across the league that could be had? The Sharks might want to shake things up with Thornton and Marleau, maybe an Eric Staal, O'Reilly, Malkin, or future star Bjugstad could be had. Time for me to find the trade proposal thread haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 That's it...find a One-Timer specialist! Sweet jesus why didn't anyone think of that long ago? That was a joke, but I think that's the real issue with the PP. A cross ice pass is the key to the power play. When the Habs PP was really killing it, we had Kovalev, Ryder or Cammalleri banging one timers off the half wall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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