DON Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 You wanted to dump subban, but want to keep DD. Gotcha. No other explanation necessary. Never said I wanted to dump Subban...in fact in the trade thread I said I cant even see any player who I would trade him for, other than maybe a Tavares. I never even considered they would trade him for a d-man. Like it or not, Desharnais is on the team and Commandant/dlbalr think highly unlikely to be able to deal him this summer/fall. And he has played 400games in the NHL and has been basically a 50pt/yr player, so he also is much more proven player than kids like Danault, Hudon, Lehkonen or Rose for now at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Rule #1 of habs29world.net: you don't talk about habs29world.net Rule #2 of habs29world.net: you don't talk about habs29world.net Rule #3 of habs29world.net: whatever spews out of the great leader's mouth shall be taken as fact, and any logical statements directed back to the great leader shall not be addressed in a rational manner, if at all. Rule #4 of habs29world.net: only two guys to a debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Rule #1 of illWill: follow management like a blind and dumb sheep - No matter how obviously stupid their moves are. Rule#2 of illWill: drink managements koolaid until they are proven wrong again and again and again... Rule#3 of illWill: complain about managements mistake and than drink more of their koolaid like a dumb sheep. Rule#4 if illWill: take lessons to on how to be even a dumber and blinder sheep from your koolaid loving leaf buddies and get geared up for the parade that is sure to come next year. Really - just you wait and see. Rule #1 of habs29world.net: you don't talk about habs29world.net Rule #2 of habs29world.net: you don't talk about habs29world.net Rule #3 of habs29world.net: whatever spews out of the great leader's mouth shall be taken as fact, and any logical statements directed back to the great leader shall not be addressed in a rational manner, if at all. Rule #4 of habs29world.net: only two guys to a debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Rule #1 of illWill: follow management like a blind and dumb sheep - No matter how obviously stupid their moves are. Rule#2 of illWill: drink managements koolaid until they are proven wrong again and again and again... Rule#3 of illWill: complain about managements mistake and than drink more of their koolaid like a dumb sheep. Rule#4 if illWill: take lessons to on how to be even a dumber and blinder sheep from your koolaid loving leaf buddies and get geared up for the parade that is sure to come next year. Really - just you wait and see. Sort of the response I anticipated but executed a bit better, not that I expected much of a rational debate between two sensible Habs fans with differing opinions on the current topics. Regardless, well done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 If Desharnais got a $2.5m extension, would that be acceptable to him and fans for a 3rd line centre? Average NHL centre they say makes $3.7m. Or should likely just plan on cutting ties at end of year and hope a youngster can fill his role next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 If Desharnais got a $2.5m extension, would that be acceptable to him and fans for a 3rd line centre? Average NHL centre they say makes $3.7m. Or should likely just plan on cutting ties at end of year and hope a youngster can fill his role next year? I would say that for Desharnais, that would be more than acceptable. I think most of the fan base would be quite upset with that number though. We've seen in the last couple of free agency periods that the undersized 2nd/3rd line guys seem to be having a lot of difficulty getting a contract. Why lock him up now for that; unless he has a major season, the Habs could probably get him under that next July. Of course, that roster spot could be earmarked for a youngster like McCarron in 2017-18 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 If Desharnais got a $2.5m extension, would that be acceptable to him and fans for a 3rd line centre? Average NHL centre they say makes $3.7m. Or should likely just plan on cutting ties at end of year and hope a youngster can fill his role next year? highly unlikely the guy Bergevin was trying the hardest to move at the draft gets resigned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 DD had a disastrous season last year. He desperately needs to revert to career norms. If he doesn't, 2.5 is a gross overpay IMHO. If he does, then it's more than fair, although I tend to think Bergevin won't resign him either, although Therrien would no doubt open the vault for DD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 They're gonna need that money and the weber savings to sign radulov after he has a 75 point season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 highly unlikely the guy Bergevin was trying the hardest to move at the draft gets resigned (I think he did move "that guy" and it wasn't Desharnais. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (I think he did move "that guy" and it wasn't Desharnais. ) Thats just mean to Lars Eller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Poor Larry, pretty much already forgotten. I wonder how he will do in Washington? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Poor Larry, pretty much already forgotten. I wonder how he will do in Washington? He'll be good for them and I think out of any team in the league, it's really one of the best situations for him. He's been on teams that I've always kind of liked for one reason or another throughout his career. St. Louis, Montreal and Washington. Those are all teams I enjoy watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Poor Larry, pretty much already forgotten. I wonder how he will do in Washington? My guess is that he won't be saddled with rotating AHLers and will breakout offensively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 My guess is that he won't be saddled with rotating AHLers and will breakout offensively Eller will be in the bottom six for the Caps (he's not playing ahead of Kuznetsov or Backstrom at centre while Ovechkin/Johansson are ahead on the LW). That will have him with the likes of Jay Beagle, Daniel Winnik, Andre Burakowsky, and Tom Wilson. Those aren't the types of players that should help him break out offensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Eller will be in the bottom six for the Caps (he's not playing ahead of Kuznetsov or Backstrom at centre while Ovechkin/Johansson are ahead on the LW). That will have him with the likes of Jay Beagle, Daniel Winnik, Andre Burakowsky, and Tom Wilson. Those aren't the types of players that should help him break out offensively. Yeah, I guess Eller had some quotes that had him basically saying, "I'm going to be the third line centre and nothing else and I'm happy with that" I guess he'd rather have the consistency of being a centre behind their top six with potential injury fill-ins than be put on the wing and attempted in the top six. I guess Trotz made it clear he's a centre and that's it. He might get PP2 time but they are more likely to go with Winnik, Wilson, or Connolly for that wing spot. I didn't know Washington got Connolly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I wish Tom Wilson was a hab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 He might get PP2 time but they are more likely to go with Winnik, Wilson, or Connolly for that wing spot. I didn't know Washington got Connolly. He was one of the more under the radar signings early in free agency. Boston didn't bother qualifying him at a little over a million so the Caps snapped him up for $850k on July 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Radulov-Chucky-Gallagher Pacioretty-Desharnais-Shaw Carr-Plekanec-Andrighetto Byron-Danault-Mitchell Plek is best left doing what he does best. Producing while playing with the less established wingers. Either Shaw, Andrighetto or Radulov has to play off-wing unless a kid forces the issue. I'd rather Rad. He plays a very similar game to both Gally's. He's grittier, more aggressive and plays at a higher pace than Pax. Placing our 40 goal scorer against secondary defensive players. DD is best left doing what he does best. Max's side kick. Pacioretty-Chucky-Gallagher Hudon-Plekanec-Radulov Lehkonen-Desharnais-Scherbak Carr-Shaw-McCarron hmm.. I like this.. 4 line assault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I wish Tom Wilson was a hab So do I. So much grit, but I think he can actually play well enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I wish Tom Wilson was a hab So 14g in 231 games is what you want...got it delaRose-Danault and 12 other bottom six players can do that already. Why do you want another bottom six grinder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 So do I. So much grit, but I think he can actually play well enough Gritty sure..but he never will be a Wayne Simmonds, if that is what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 So 14g in 231 games is what you want...got it delaRose-Danault and 12 other bottom six players can do that already. Why do you want another bottom six grinder? Yeah, I've never been a fan of Wilson, no offense, plus he's dirty and takes stupid penalities at key times. Sure he hits a lot but thats about it. Much rather have a guy like a Wayne Simmonds who combines physicality with talent... thats the kind of guy i want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Ya, I love Simmonds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 To compare Wilson to Simmons is absolutely ridiculous just because of a word like grit was used. It's like me saying "I like Andrighetto" and you saying "really Andrighetto? Patrick Kane is so much better, I'd rather him." They are not the same class of player. Last season Wilson had 23 points in 82 games. He's 22, and I think between 3rd and 4th like roles he could be an awesome physical presence on any team. Better than the Scotts of the NHL, more of a Chris Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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