Guest Stogey24 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 According to Engels source, Pfeffer (who was hired prior to the 2015-16 season for his analytics background) made an impassioned and elaborate presentation to management to dissuade them from following through on the Subban trade. Maybe not much correlation, but I find it funny that Bergevin kicks this guy to the street, but keeps his coaching staff intact after the team put up the worst record in the nhl from December on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 According to Engels source, Pfeffer (who was hired prior to the 2015-16 season for his analytics background) made an impassioned and elaborate presentation to management to dissuade them from following through on the Subban trade. Maybe not much correlation, but I find it funny that Bergevin kicks this guy to the street, but keeps his coaching staff intact after the team put up the worst record in the nhl from December on. Why would he fire his coaching staff. It wasn't there fault we lost - it was Subban's. that's why we got rid of him.It wasn't MT's fault that he couldn't employ his only coaching strategy - "stop the puck Carey", so why would he or the coaching staff get fired??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 According to Engels source, Pfeffer (who was hired prior to the 2015-16 season for his analytics background) made an impassioned and elaborate presentation to management to dissuade them from following through on the Subban trade. Maybe not much correlation, but I find it funny that Bergevin kicks this guy to the street, but keeps his coaching staff intact after the team put up the worst record in the nhl from December on. And according to Pfeffer himself, he provided a report and never met with management. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/former-canadiens-analyst-matt-pfeffer-clarifies-subban-trade/ The guy signed a one year contract, the one year ran out last week and they opted not to renew. Big whoop. He lasted just the one year with his previous NHL team too. We've seen over the years that quite a few of the analytics guys don't last long. They'll hire someone else and there's a very good chance that person's stint with the Habs will also be short-lived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Of course if it even remotely reflects badly on Habs Mgmt, it is made a big whoop these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Of course if it even remotely reflects badly on Habs Mgmt, it is made a big whoop these days.And you are really surprised by that, considering the year they had last year, with MB doing nothing absolutely nothing during the worst collapse in NHL history - if the leaf's were an 18 wheeler going off the road, than the habs last year were a 747 being flown into a mountain with clueless pilots!! Not holding anyone in management accountable, with the exception of a coaching consultant and an analytics guy is unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 it was Subban's. that's why we got rid of him. If you say so, I partially agree. Not holding anyone in management accountable, with the exception of a coaching consultant and an analytics guy is unacceptable. Don't forget punting Subban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Why would he fire his coaching staff. It wasn't there fault we lost - it was Subban's. that's why we got rid of him. It wasn't MT's fault that he couldn't employ his only coaching strategy - "stop the puck Carey", so why would he or the coaching staff get fired??? Ya, it's too bad Pfeffer doesn't play on Bergevin's shinny team. I think that's how you keep your Job in Montreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Benn just signed 8 years at 9.5 mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Benn just signed 8 years at 9.5 mill. Well. I wouldn't mind 76 mill either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Well. I wouldn't mind 76 mill either He is a wicked player and maybe that is even a home town discount? But a lot of $ by our standards, might be just a 3 year deal in NBA or MLB though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 And according to Pfeffer himself, he provided a report and never met with management. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/former-canadiens-analyst-matt-pfeffer-clarifies-subban-trade/ The guy signed a one year contract, the one year ran out last week and they opted not to renew. Big whoop. He lasted just the one year with his previous NHL team too. We've seen over the years that quite a few of the analytics guys don't last long. They'll hire someone else and there's a very good chance that person's stint with the Habs will also be short-lived. They are likely going with Sportlogiq next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 They are likely going with Sportlogiq next. I read somewhere that they have deals with most (26?) of the NHL teams already so Montreal probably already has something with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 A notable trade today, Brassard and a 7th to Ottawa for Zibanejad and a 2nd. That feels like a win-now move for Ottawa which doesn't make much sense considering they're not in a position to win now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Pretty huge win for New York if you ask me. Zibanajed who will probably be nearly or just as good as brassard next season, plus 5 years younger. AND a second on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Pretty huge win for New York if you ask me. Zibanajed who will probably be nearly or just as good as brassard next season, plus 5 years younger. AND a second on top. Zibanejad playing with Zuccarelo I could see become a very dangerous duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Zibanejad playing with Zuccarelo I could see become a very dangerous duo. ZZ on the top line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 ZZ on the top line. Haha. Now all they need is to grow the same beards. ZZtop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Pretty huge win for New York if you ask me. Zibanajed who will probably be nearly or just as good as brassard next season, plus 5 years younger. AND a second on top. Zibanajed will looking for a new contract next year. Definitely won't be cheap. A notable trade today, Brassard and a 7th to Ottawa for Zibanejad and a 2nd. That feels like a win-now move for Ottawa which doesn't make much sense considering they're not in a position to win now. They have this mind set they're a contender. It was the same with the Phaneuf move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Zednik Zholtok Zubrus Still the best line ever in the worst era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 A notable trade today, Brassard and a 7th to Ottawa for Zibanejad and a 2nd. That feels like a win-now move for Ottawa which doesn't make much sense considering they're not in a position to win now. Ottawa operates like how Montreal would operate if the L'Antichambre was GM. They obsess over local players. This deal looks awful to me for Ottawa. Sure you got a guy who can put up 60 points but you gave up a second round pick and a 23 year old who was only nine points away. Brassard is a definitive 7.5 top 30 centreman who does everything above average but Mika isn't far off. It's actually a couple rungs under the Subban/Weber deal but a similar mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 60 points on a crazy high shooting percentage and more ice time than Mika. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Haha. Now all they need is to grow the same beards. ZZtopI like that. It told my buddy the other day that the new acquisitions for MTL this year could be marketed this way:Andrew, 'Lov, Weber - Phantom of the Opera It takes some imagination but it works. Then he suggested 'Phantom of the "Crap"ra....' Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 Former Hab defenceman Ryan O'Byrne has retired. He had bounced around in recent years - after joining the Leafs in 2013 (I didn't even remember that), he played in the Czech Republic, Switzerland, and Sweden over the past three seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Former Hab defenceman Ryan O'Byrne has retired. He had bounced around in recent years - after joining the Leafs in 2013 (I didn't even remember that), he played in the Czech Republic, Switzerland, and Sweden over the past three seasons. Just this morning I was wondering "whatever happened to that old purse snatcher." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Evander Kane in trouble again, apparently harassing women. He is just plain dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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