TheDriveFor25 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Pacs needed to be better, but so did Price. The first NYR goal was soft - cant happen in an elimination game when you're up 1-0. Totally flipped the game. Weber was good. Radulov was our best player. Some questionable moves though - taking Mitchell out after he scored. Leaving King in when he had not done much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 It all makes sense now!!! credit to speedboy3 on reddit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, THE Bobby Orr said: exactly...and this series exposed the same ####ing holes that were exposed in the tampa series...its like out GM is stupid...seriously. I just don't get it. anyway Web was fine.. Yes. He is stupid. Blinkered by old-school thinking about 'character' and 'leadership' as all purpose solutions for a dearth of talent. He's a dolt and needs to go join his bum buddy in the dumpster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Most people hated the idea of trading Galchenyuk for Duchene. You'd be crazy not to take that deal. I'm sick of 27 and 67. Trade them both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sim.on Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: WHAT?!? PK WASN'T THE PROBLEM?!? But...but...CHARACTER. LEADERSHIP. FIRE BERGEVIN. NOW. The GM's in the NHL have plan with the long term in mind. It was really close and didn't go our way. The decision to either keep or fire MB has to be based on much more than the result of one series. Would you want him fired regardless of the result against the Rangers? Should Chicago fire Bowman and Quinnville? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l<OV4L3V Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, TheDriveFor25 said: Most people hated the idea of trading Galchenyuk for Duchene. You'd be crazy not to take that deal. I'm sick of 27 and 67. Trade them both. I wouldn't give up on #27 yet, but I would give up on #11/#67 first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 The sad part is.. this year was setup for a long run from the winner of this series.. Ottawa or Boston next round then the winner of the tough Caps/Pens series.. Calling it now.. NYR win the East. (And lose to Nashville) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, sim.on said: The GM's in the NHL have plan with the long term in mind. It was really close and didn't go our way. The decision to either keep or fire MB has to be based on much more than the result of one series. Would you want him fired regardless of the result against the Rangers? Should Chicago fire Bowman and Quinnville? His plan is apparently to fail to improve the team one iota in three years. He is garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, l<OV4L3V said: I wouldn't give up on #27 yet, but I would give up on #11/#67 first What? He was way worse than Gallagher. WAY WORSE. At least 11 was out there every shift trying, being a nuisance, 27 was floating like 67, turning the puck over or taking a bad angle shot. You keep 11 for your second line. You move 27 and 67 for a new first, and hope Raddy resigns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 27 still might turn out to be ok as a winger if paired with a good center, shooting the puck a ton. 67 has to go though...ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 For the last time this season (at least for the NHL games, maybe if St. John's gets a televised game this postseason I'll be able to do one for them), here's my Habs 3 Stars: http://www.habsworld.net/2017/04/hw-3-stars-habs-go-out-on-a-quiet-note/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE Bobby Orr Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, sim.on said: The GM's in the NHL have plan with the long term in mind. It was really close and didn't go our way. The decision to either keep or fire MB has to be based on much more than the result of one series. Would you want him fired regardless of the result against the Rangers? Should Chicago fire Bowman and Quinnville? yup...its not about one series..personally when he brought in MT that was enough for me...but MB and MT managed to screw up a 1st round draft pick and NEVER even came close to plugging the flagrant holes this team has had for 5 years now. Sorry but he's done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l<OV4L3V Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, TheDriveFor25 said: The sad part is.. this year was setup for a long run from the winner of this series.. Ottawa or Boston next round then the winner of the tough Caps/Pens series.. Calling it now.. NYR win the East. (And lose to Nashville) If you think the Rangers can beat the Caps/Penguins you are cut off tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Listen, Weber was excellent for us. The trade is not a disaster on that scale. It just made us four years older for absolutely no reason. I had to laugh as everyone kept hoping Weber would get some bombs through to Lundqvist. This is EXACTLY what happened with Subban in 2015 against Bishop. In neither case was the player the problem, rather the supporting cast is inadequate. The trade so transparently failed to make the team better, it's almost funny. Like blowing up your house and building an exact duplicate - a ton of sound and fury signifying less than nothing. Meanwhile the house still has holes in the roof and a cracked foundation. Weber has been excellent and would have been a great ADDITION to Subban, but was not worth getting in place of Subban. The only two players will h skill who can carry the puck on this team are galchenyuk and radulov. They broke galchenyuk. Biggest issue is they can't get out of their zone and transition to offence. They were hemmed in their own end far too often. The loss of Subban hurt even more when the habs didn't pick up a skilled centre who can carry the puck. plus, weber probably has three elite level years left - Subban 7 or 8. If weber was such a great player and captain, why would Nashville have traded him? They finally slayed the dragon with Subban shutting down toews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I am angrier at MB right now than I can recall being at anyone in the Habs organization in years. This failure is 100% ON HIM. His failure to improve the team one iota in three years is inexcusable. He had a good hand and completely misplayed it. A joke of a GM. Fire up the Random Excuse Generator *They're (#1 centers, #2 dmen, popcorn vendors) not available *Need to get (see above) at the draft *You have to spend a lot to give a lot, and some variation of above *I have a voodoo doll of Molson *Isn't this a nice tie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, l<OV4L3V said: If you think the Rangers can beat the Caps/Penguins you are cut off tonight If they breeze through Sens, and Caps or Pens come out of a 7 game war with multiple injuries, they certainly could. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 The team has made the playoffs every year but 1 under MB,He has been riding Price through those years A lot of players need to go, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE Bobby Orr Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, sbhatt said: 27 still might turn out to be ok as a winger with a good center shooting the puck a ton. that^... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, sbhatt said: Damn right it's time to rip the C off Max's chest at the very least. Joe Thornton got stripped of his C for similar reasons. That's a good point. Jumbo Joe is available. Wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: Weber has been excellent and would have been a great ADDITION to Subban, but was not worth getting in place of Subban. The only two players will h skill who can carry the puck on this team are galchenyuk and radulov. They broke galchenyuk. Biggest issue is they can't get out of their zone and transition to offence. They were hemmed in their own end far too often. The loss of Subban hurt even more when the habs didn't pick up a skilled centre who can carry the puck. plus, weber probably has three elite level years left. If he was such a great player and captain, why would Nashville have traded him? Hey, you're singing to the choir. The trade was idiotic and I never believed for a moment in any of that character/leadership bullcrap. PK gave his all every shift. You and I were absolutely right to decry the deal, and have been proven right, given thatbit did jacksh*t to improve the club. All I'm saying is that at least in the short term the trade is a pointless lateral move. That's not a catastrophe like Roy, Chelios, or Gomez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lovett's Magnatones said: Fire up the Random Excuse Generator *They're (#1 centers, #2 dmen, popcorn vendors) not available *Need to get (see above) at the draft *You have to spend a lot to give a lot, and some variation of above *I have a voodoo doll of Molson *Isn't this a nice tie? Those excuses are just as lame as those used by the Pacioretty apologists: *playing hurt *but but but...he's getting lots of shots, that proves he's playing great...just 'snakebit' *he's never been a physical player, shouldn't be expected to start now *puck luck/bounces/ice conditions/ect ect you name it *he leads QUIETLY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 habsretired, Subban was not elite this year, he was solid, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Lovett's Magnatones said: Fire up the Random Excuse Generator *They're (#1 centers, #2 dmen, popcorn vendors) not available *Need to get (see above) at the draft *You have to spend a lot to give a lot, and some variation of above *I have a voodoo doll of Molson *Isn't this a nice tie? There is only one Bergevin excuse: "The team did not show enough character this year." and then he will trade a 2nd round pick for Jordin Tootoo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Off-season Plan 1) 6x6 for Radulov 2) Order the coach to put Galchenyuk at Centre and don't #### around with it. Look you arent winning without a centre, you just aren't. He's your only hope of having one. 3) Add a draft pick if you have to, ensure that Vegas takes Plekanec 4) Sign Shipachyov. If he won't sign in Montreal, it is what it is. But if he signs elsewhere its cause he took less money to do so. You make sure that your offer is the best one on his table. 5) Re-Sign Markov 6) Trade Emelin at 50% retained, or buy him out. 7) Draft Centres with 3/4 picks in the first three rounds, including the first rounder. 8) Sign Price Long Term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 While I hear people say that price didn't steal a game, it's hard to do so when you score 1 goal in your losses. Winning 1-0 is an unrealistic expectation. That said, this was a close series. It really could have gone either way. I remember in '93 feeling bad for Buffalo when they get swept in 4 straight 4-3 games. Losing to a beatable team sucks. Seeing the speedy Habs not be so speedy anymore is a bit sad. I sure wish they could've put up a few goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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