alfredoh2009 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, nihilz said: Drouin - Danault - Scherbak Domi - Peca - Gallagher Hudon - Plekanec - Tatar Lehkonen - delaRose - Armia Deslauriers - McCarron Ouellet - Petry Despres - Benn Schlemko - Alzner Reilly The loose for Hughes line up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davehab Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I just took a look at the invitees to the main camp? That has to be the worse lineup in the national hockey league. We are going to be awful this year. And I’m kind of Okay with that. We need to get another 1st rounder this year somehow. How can we make this happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 40 minutes ago, Davehab said: We need to get another 1st rounder this year somehow. How can we make this happen? Have to be for a Byron, Gallagher or maybe Petry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, DON said: Have to be for a Byron, Gallagher or maybe Petry. Before trading Gallagher, can we name him captain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I don't think there is 1 player in that top 9 who weighs 200 lbs, That is one soft lineup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, Chris said: I don't think there is 1 player in that top 9 who weighs 200 lbs, That is one soft lineup Armia is 205. Domi is listed at 198. Danault listed at 195. Scherbak might break 200 by opening night. It's light but they will be good little grinders with Domi, Shaw, Armia, Deslauriers, and Gallagher buzzing around. Eating at a couple buffets ain't gonna win this team any games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Who cares about size and weight. It means nothing. Talent wins games, especially with the NHL getting faster and faster every year. I don't care at all about the weight or height of the top 9. I do care that we don't have near enough skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 It’s a fact that 5-10 years ago our team was defined by and even criticized for being full of ”Smurfs”. I never once used the term myself but it seems we’re heading back in that direction regardless. I never minded being a quick team. It always worked against the Bruins. The only downfall is longevity as small teams can face more injuries (I know it can be arguable) and it’s important to be able to last through four rounds come playoff time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 1 hour ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: It’s a fact that 5-10 years ago our team was defined by and even criticized for being full of ”Smurfs”. I never once used the term myself but it seems we’re heading back in that direction regardless. I never minded being a quick team. It always worked against the Bruins. The only downfall is longevity as small teams can face more injuries (I know it can be arguable) and it’s important to be able to last through four rounds come playoff time. Except that right now it seems the most injury prone guy now who missed half of last year and is going to miss half of this year is probably the biggest regular roster player in the team. Our big goalie also has been pretty injury prone the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 On 13/09/2018 at 2:45 PM, Commandant said: Who cares about size and weight. It means nothing. Talent wins games, especially with the NHL getting faster and faster every year. I don't care at all about the weight or height of the top 9. I do care that we don't have near enough skill. While it is all too typical of Bergevin to veer from one thing to another - 'we need to get bigger and tougher! No wait, we need to get younger and faster!' - I completely agree with this. Talent and speed first. Gainey's 'Smurf' team was ahead of the curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: While it is all too typical of Bergevin to veer from one thing to another - 'we need to get bigger and tougher! No wait, we need to get younger and faster!' - I completely agree with this. Talent and speed first. Gainey's 'Smurf' team was ahead of the curve. Talent should Trump all, no question. I do remember that Smurf team getting run into the ground by Philly in the conference finals in 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, Habopotamus said: Talent should Trump all, no question. I do remember that Smurf team getting run into the ground by Philly in the conference finals in 2009. The Smurf team was, as I say, ahead of its time. It may have been a fluke, but I suspect Gainey actually took the post-lockout crackdown on obstruction more seriously than most, only to be disappointed when the playoffs returned to being dead-puck hockey. And you can argue that the real reason they lost to Philly wasn't that they were small, but that they just weren't good enough. That team was path-breaking in another respect too. The much-reviled Jacques Martin deployed a bend-don't-break defensive system that relied on massive shot-blocking to box out the slot and concede loads of shots from low-risk areas. It wasn't long before shot-blocking in particular became the new coaching religion. Thankfully that fad has passed (a few injuries tend to teach some lessons). All told, though, I believe that team was an innovator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 That team was as much ahead of his time as Leonids and the 300: Heroic in how they lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 So now, Domi is the new shiny toy to try at C, and Drouin is moving back to the wing? I feel likes it's an 8U hockey team where every kid gets to try every position. Drouin-Domi-Gallagher Lehkonen-Daneault-Armia Byron-Plekanec-Tatar Stuff-Peca-Stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I would keep Drouin-Domi-Armia line together they looked good on the ice together. Drouin - Domi - Armia Tatar - Danault - Gallagher Byron - Plekenec - Scherbak Lehkonen - Peca - Shaw Extra..Rose, Hudon , Deslauriers That should be opening day lineup up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 When heathy... Drouin/Domi/Armia Lehkonen/Daneault/Gallagher Byron/Plexs/Scherbak Hudon/Peca/Shaw Dela Rose/Deslauriers What happens to McCarron?? Does he have to clear waivers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I don’t like Shaw on the 4th line or on this team! We need to get rid of Shaw with his contract and headaches!! With all do respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, habs#4,9,10,33 said: What happens to McCarron?? Does he have to clear waivers? Yes, McCarron has to go through waivers now to go back to Laval. That will be one of the more intriguing decisions they'll have to make. While his play hasn't been impressive, there could be a team that looks at his size and thinks he's worthy of a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, habs#4,9,10,33 said: I don’t like Shaw on the 4th line or on this team! We need to get rid of Shaw with his contract and headaches!! With all do respect. He needs to string together some healthy games. He does that there is bound to be another old school GM who wants him on the team. But we will most likely have to take a cap dump or cut his salary by a million or so to get it done. Maybe Lou on the Islanders will get annoyed with Josh Ho-Sang and take Shaw off our hands for him. I'm dreaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: He needs to string together some healthy games. He does that there is bound to be another old school GM who wants him on the team. But we will most likely have to take a cap dump or cut his salary by a million or so to get it done. Maybe Lou on the Islanders will get annoyed with Josh Ho-Sang and take Shaw off our hands for him. I'm dreaming. Even if it happened, Bergevin and Ho-Sang would clash within a few months, and then we'd trade him for someone like Loui Eriksson or Milan Lucic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 My Loose for Hughes lineup: Tatar-Danault-Gallagher Drouin-Domi-Armia Hudon-Plekanec-Lehkonen Byron-Peca-Scherbak Shinkaruk, (A.Shaw), Reilly-Petry Alzner-Juulsen Benn-Lernout Schlemko, Ouellet, (Weber) === Mete starets in Laval to develop. McCarron and Delarose are traded for draft pick(s) if they do not show any upside during training camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, habs#4,9,10,33 said: When heathy... Drouin/Domi/Armia Lehkonen/Daneault/Gallagher Byron/Plexs/Scherbak Hudon/Peca/Shaw Dela Rose/Deslauriers What happens to McCarron?? Does he have to clear waivers? did you forget Tatar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: did you forget Tatar? Yes I did.. lol I was focusing more on the youth movement, making sure Scherbak and Hudon don’t get left out. Your lineup combination looks more realistic.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 We need to deal away another forward for prospects/picks.... preferably a winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, habs#4,9,10,33 said: Yes I did.. lol I was focusing more on the youth movement, making sure Scherbak and Hudon don’t get left out. Your lineup combination looks more realistic.? haha, I thought that you must have forgotten. It is tough putting together a team from so many players. I hav ebeen trying to keep Hudon in there, because he earned a spot last year and he is one of the few fracophones on the team. But this year it is getting tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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