dlbalr Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 It's a disappointing loss but it was good to see improved defensive structure for the second straight game. Tampa is certainly no slouch offensively but they didn't get a lot going on Montreal's defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, BCHabnut said: Vasilevsky stole this game. Play this exact game and habs win 9 out of 10 times. He was great, but we weren't getting very dangerous opportunities. Suzuki looked pretty good on the powerplay. I wonder why Kotka doesn't get a chance out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 double post so I'll use this space to wonder why Kotka is in CJ's doghouse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: I found myself reminiscing about “Casperetty” this game. I know you didn’t like him, but it’s funny you bring it up because I had the same thought. 33 shots but no pure sniper with a heavy wrister. Caufield is a good call for the future. He probably would have been a ghost in a game like this. He was the kind of guy who would have showed up with a pair in a ho-hum game against Minnesota on Thurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 PP generally looks much better than last year. "Only" 20% today but still it looks more dangerous. PK was 0-for-1 (with one shot!) but I'll give that a pass. But when the opposing goalie stops 97.1% of the shots, it makes it pretty hard to scratch out a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 i wouldnt say giving up 3 breakaways and a 2 on 1 is a good defensive effort, but they didnt give up 40 shots. Pk goal against again, Tampa just p[layed a smart 3rd period, the game was over 5 minutes into the 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habber31 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Can't really be mad about that game I wouldnt be against a swap with Poehling and Suzuki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Well, got out to a lead with a PPG and only gave up 22 shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 At some point, Petry will stop being one of the most underrated Dmen in the league, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Habber31 said: I wouldnt be against a swap with Poehling and Suzuki I don't know that any of the forwards in Laval has shown (yet) that they should be called up. Unless it's Belzile ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Link67 said: At some point, Petry will stop being one of the most underrated Dmen in the league, right? I think he's the best D on this team. and yes that includes Weber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Commandant said: I think he's the best D on this team. and yes that includes Weber. Not a difficult proclamation to make on a night like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Weber-Mete was the only negative defensive pair on the night. Petry-Kulak were at 59% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK_Niemi15 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 That went about how I thought it would. Overall flat effort after a big home effort the game before. I think we may see this a lot in 2019-2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, KK_Niemi15 said: That went about how I thought it would. Overall flat effort after a big home effort the game before. I think we may see this a lot in 2019-2020. Flat? I didnt see that at all. They might have lost the game but i didnt think they were flat. Vasilevskiy played really well. I thought they were flat against Detroit. Last night? They just got beat by a more talented team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 hours ago, KK_Niemi15 said: That went about how I thought it would. Overall flat effort after a big home effort the game before. I think we may see this a lot in 2019-2020. I’ll open by saying I missed the first half of the game due to work. That being said, the half I did watch, it was the habs game to lose. Barring a few breakaways, we had Tampa on the ropes nearly the entire 3rd. Had some good chances in the 3rd. Vasilevsky stole that game. It’s not a common occurrence to be outshot by 10 and win by 2 goals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Overall, not flat for sure. And the team stayed out of the penalty box, too. A few mistakes were quickly punished by the Lightning, and Vasilevskiy was great, Price merely mortal. That's not enough to beat TB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habber31 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Weber has been on the ice for seven of the 15 goals Montreal has allowed at even strength, and 14 of the 23 they’ve allowed on the whole. And Mete, who has less of a role on the team’s penalty kill, has been on for five of the 15 at even strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 goals in less than 3 minutes of play and Weber was on for all 3 goals. Julien said Kotkaniemi played poorly dropped him to wing and less icetime and Drouin good, moved up and more icetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott462 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, DON said: 3 goals in less than 3 minutes of play and Weber was on for all 3 goals. Julien said Kotkaniemi played poorly dropped him to wing and less icetime and Drouin good, moved up and more icetime. Weber clearly is struggling out there. His positioning seems off he bumbles the puck far more often, which has been leading to far too many breakaways. From what I’m seeing right now is Kotkaniemi is being blamed for last nights downfall, in which he surely did not play well by any stretch but is not the sole reason and for Claude to be putting this on a 19 year old future of the team is a little concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 42 minutes ago, Scott462 said: Weber clearly is struggling out there. His positioning seems off he bumbles the puck far more often, which has been leading to far too many breakaways. From what I’m seeing right now is Kotkaniemi is being blamed for last nights downfall, in which he surely did not play well by any stretch but is not the sole reason and for Claude to be putting this on a 19 year old future of the team is a little concerning. Its not last night. Claude started diminishing his ice time against Detroit and St. Louis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Habber31 said: Weber has been on the ice for seven of the 15 goals Montreal has allowed at even strength, and 14 of the 23 they’ve allowed on the whole. And Mete, who has less of a role on the team’s penalty kill, has been on for five of the 15 at even strength. Weber looked dodgy (by his standards) over the last chunk of last season, but we could chalk it up to coming back from injury. It's slightly ominous that this sub-standard play is continuing. We have seven more years of Weber at a cap hit of $8 mil. Good thing he will be immune from the aging process... 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Weber looked dodgy (by his standards) over the last chunk of last season, but we could chalk it up to coming back from injury. It's slightly ominous that this sub-standard play is continuing. We have seven more years of Weber at a cap hit of $8 mil. Good thing he will be immune from the aging process... 🙄 It’s definitely unfair to bring it up at this point. Weber has been off but let’s wait until his first 2 or 3 goal game this year before bringing it up. Without looking up any stats, it’s easy to predict that he’ll score 15 goals this year and put up more than 40 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: It’s definitely unfair to bring it up at this point. Weber has been off but let’s wait until his first 2 or 3 goal game this year before bringing it up. Without looking up any stats, it’s easy to predict that he’ll score 15 goals this year and put up more than 40 points. Thats all great, but you want him to be playing strong defensively too. So far he isn't. Last season, 54.47% CF and 54.14% xG So far this year. 49.75% CF and 49.63% xG a 5% drop off is not a good sign. That said, its 6 games so its a small sample size and he can definitely turn it around, but right now he's not playing well enough at 5 on 5. The penalty kill is even more concerning. GA/60 is 14.29 this year GA/60 was 5.36 last year. Thats nearly triple the goals against per 60 minutes of ice time on the penalty kill. Now I don't think its all Weber, there are a lot of things that are going wrong on the habs PK right now, but its a number to look at that shows how things have gone so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott462 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Commandant said: Its not last night. Claude started diminishing his ice time against Detroit and St. Louis. I think everyone’s patience will wear pretty thin if this continues into the year. I think in regards to Weber just like Kotkaniemi they both are clearly struggling but it is not entirely there fault. I think Weber will eventually turn it around because he is a grizzled vet and from what I’m seeing a lot of it is his positioning and bumbling the puck which can be corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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