habsfan_69 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 do u think bob can swing a trade with philly to score Simone Gange? If so who do u see going philly's way [Edited on 5-8-05 by HABS Fan Nr.1] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 It would be future considerations I bet (whatever that means) They don't want anymore $ going against their cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfan_69 Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 I say throw dags in to sweeten the deal u know how bobby clark loves big guys!! but i would love seeing simone in MTL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck7x Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I dont see Clarke trading Gagne, if he does trade Gagne then I cannot see Clarke trading him within the conference. Gagne is the type of player who can come back and haunt your team for years (Remember when we traded LeClair to Philly? of course you do). Sure I'd love to have him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAussiePosse Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I doubt Simone Gange has played a hockey game in her life. (That's Simone G) However, trading for Simon Gagne would be a great idea! :ghg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33_ Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I hope not, I've always felt he was over-rated. He's only had one season where he scored more than 60 points. In terms of goal scoring, I don't think he's any better than Zednik, who many think isn't a 1st line talent. If the Habs want to bring in a local guy to be a star, Vinny Lecavalier is the man. He's blossoming into the star Tampa drafted, and is a guy who because of Tampa's success, is a guy who evenaverage fans know. This is the French Canadian star the Habs need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfan_69 Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 Looking at Philly's numbers it will be a very tight squeeze to get their RFA's signed and be under the cap maybe Bob can make Clarkie an offer he cant refuse to get him here he would bolster our 2nd line. I just think our 2nd line lacks forechecking and gange is a great forechecker. Dagenais is not my cup of tea i want him out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl.roberts Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 If I'm Bob Clarke I don't trade a player like that to a team which I'll play four times during the regular season, and possibly meet in the playoffs for years to come. But god damn it would be nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 That's reported by RDS that although they traded roenick, the flyers have put Gagné on the Block because they cannot re-sign him... they have some very important RFA to put under contract and Gagné is the one leaving... :ghg: Forget it guys, don't ever mention Dags in a "proposal" Dags wouldn't find a taker for free... let alone in a trade... Looking at the Pronger deal, it has to be similar on a lower scale... cross your fingers and hope that Clarke loves Plekanec and Hainsey or something like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by Fanpuck33I hope not, I've always felt he was over-rated. He's only had one season where he scored more than 60 points. In terms of goal scoring, I don't think he's any better than Zednik, who many think isn't a 1st line talent. If the Habs want to bring in a local guy to be a star, Vinny Lecavalier is the man. He's blossoming into the star Tampa drafted, and is a guy who because of Tampa's success, is a guy who evenaverage fans know. This is the French Canadian star the Habs need. why look at the offense production alone??? Gagné has always been on team Canada... Gagné is one of the best two way player in the league, he didn't score the last years cause Hitchcock was using him in an overly defensive role... put saku on our third and ask him to play only defensively... and look at his stats after... Gagné on our 2nd would simply be awesome!!! If we can get Lecavalier next season... then :bow: The sainte flanelle is brought back to life... :king: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfan_69 Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 i wouldnt care one bit to see pleckanec gone with a draft pick for gange just seeing him in montreal would be worth seeing those guys go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by habsfan_69 Dagenais is not my cup of tea i want him out!! Forget it guys, don't ever mention Dags in a "proposal" Dags wouldn't find a taker for free... let alone in a trade... Seems to be more and more Dags beaters everyday. I love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33_ Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I still think he's over-rated, but if they want to bring in salary, I think it would be much better spent on D. I'm not sold on Boullion, Streit, or Hainsey being top 6 guys. I think Hainsey deserves a last chance, but I'd rather have a proven guy in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfan_69 Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 Dags is big but hes soft and he doesnt play D all hes got is a shot. He can only play with Ribs and hes not a team guy get him out quick!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33_ Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I am in the minority here, but I would like to see what Dags does in camp before writing him off. Before the lockout, he seemed very dedicated to improving his game. I mean, he was a 25 year old pro going to rookie camp, just so he could work out with the coaches. I liked that dedication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 well, they're going to have to figure out a way to get rid of a Dman if they pull a trade. Hainsey is quasi-tradable because he still has "upside" value. Rivet's salary precludes trade. I dont see Bouillon going anywhere, and i still think he is the ultimate #7 man (he is in this respect the Tim Wakefield of hockey, Wakefield being the perfect 5th starter for the red sox). It would feel weird to trade streit after luring him from Suisse... but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by habsfan_69Dags is big but hes soft and he doesnt play D all hes got is a shot. He can only play with Ribs and hes not a team guy get him out quick!!!! I'll have to post a Dagenais to Toronto rumour in their forum. Maybe the leafs could give us a few Blue Jay tickets for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 PMK, I don't see a reason to like Dags beside watching him practicing his shot... you can look at the guy and say wow, such a big guy with such a great shot... imagine if he could play hockey... :-^ I really wonder why we re-signed him... maybe BG wasn't 100% sure that Higgs would do the job... but mark my words, he's not returning next season... the only guy in the league who got a 1year season besides Brian Leetch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by alexstreamPMK, I don't see a reason to like Dags beside watching him practicing his shot... you can look at the guy and say wow, such a big guy with such a great shot... imagine if he could play hockey... :-^ I really wonder why we re-signed him... maybe BG wasn't 100% sure that Higgs would do the job... but mark my words, he's not returning next season... the only guy in the league who got a 1year season besides Brian Leetch... I don't know why he was signed either. I think the guy sucks and well we have talked about this before but I think Ribs needs to go as well. Ribs and Dags for Gagne would make all this excitement even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidRock Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Ribs should be sent to a Pee-Wee team after that stunt against Boston. I think Mr. Gainey has a long memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by Fanpuck33I am in the minority here, but I would like to see what Dags does in camp before writing him off. Before the lockout, he seemed very dedicated to improving his game. I mean, he was a 25 year old pro going to rookie camp, just so he could work out with the coaches. I liked that dedication. Hear Hear! He scores goals. I don't care if he's a snaggle-toothed, drooling idiot who can't even spell 'defence' (or is it 'defense'?) if he can put the puck in the net he's woth more than a figure skater. And YES, Dagenais voluntarily attended the rookies' practice camps after last season, to do skating drills, while the other players were out on the golf course -- got to like that from a player on your team! I say let him start and see if he can smack some pucks into the net. Nothing against Gagne, that could be nice too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 in defense of dags, if you want to talk about a player who wants to be a hab, he is definitely up there among them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Don't overestimate Dags willingness to improve... it's simply do or die for him... If he had gone for the drills etc if he didn't do extra practice, he'd be in the ECHL as we're talking... His sole and only talent is his wicked shot... he is "dedicated" only because he has homeworks to do, only because otherwise he wouldn't make it... The day Dags will make my lineup, he'll skate like Oleg Petrov and hit like Steve Begin... untill then, I'm glad he has a two way contract, he'll provide good offense in hamilton :king: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habscout Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I'd like it if the Habs could get Gagne, but for cap reasons I doubt it will happen. Sure he had a bad season a couple of seasons ago, but he was a great player for the world cup team last fall, and is still pretty young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giupietrantonio Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 hey guys why dont we all stop trying to get players that wont necessarly help out our team.....look at the ranger a couple of years back. I think with the team we have now we will be able to succeed and get a playoff birth once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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