JoeLassister Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 What a great time to be alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 The Laval oddness continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 There is more to this story i think. Varone and Barber must have done something off ice that required first a benching and second the organization to want them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Not sure why he flew to colorado for that, unfortunately i could not find out what hotel he was at so i could council him a correct rebuild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Commandant said: Varone and Barber must have done something off ice that required first a benching and second the organization to want them out. Or the trade was already done (but not announced) so Bouchard didn't play them, maybe to avoid risk of injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Why is this a different thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Chris said: Not sure why he flew to colorado for that, unfortunately i could not find out what hotel he was at so i could council him a correct rebuild He's crashing on my couch. He played D for my son's squirt team this past weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Nice, Im sure he brought CHaracter to the team if not talent Did you council him on how to rebuild? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Or the trade was already done (but not announced) so Bouchard didn't play them, maybe to avoid risk of injury? He played them last night I doubt it took from sunday to thursday to complete the trade and then we played them on wednesday. Sounds more like something happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Chris said: Nice, Im sure he brought CHaracter to the team if not talent Did you council him on how to rebuild? Council... that word doesnt mean what you think it does. Youve used it twice now. Its counsel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, tomh009 said: Or the trade was already done (but not announced) so Bouchard didn't play them, maybe to avoid risk of injury? Id also point out that the trade is a clear downgrade in talent. Barber and varone are better AHL players than Blandisi and Lucchino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Commandant said: Id also point out that the trade is a clear downgrade in talent. Barber and varone are better AHL players than Blandisi and Lucchino. So ... conflict with Bouchard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, tomh009 said: So ... conflict with Bouchard? No idea what it is. I just get the impression that something is going on here. Its more than meets the eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Dumont of the athletic suggests some.sort of issue. “I didn’t take them out of the lineup because I thought they were playing excellent hockey,” said Joël Bouchard. Dumont in his article says young players are working hard but varone and barber were going through the motions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 The attitude police strikes again, some will say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Ah a trade, I didnt hear about this one, sounds like 2 guys that needed to just be gone. I guess Bouchard couldn't get them to listen to him or staff...just like a Galchenyuk or Subban I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Commandant said: Id also point out that the trade is a clear downgrade in talent. Barber and varone are better AHL players than Blandisi and Lucchino. That seems to be a pattern with a lot of Montreal's in-season AHL-AHL swaps. One day, it would be nice to bring in the more talented AHL player. I don't mind Blandisi - he's a useful top-six player but Lucchini seems more like roster filler than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, dlbalr said: That seems to be a pattern with a lot of Montreal's in-season AHL-AHL swaps. One day, it would be nice to bring in the more talented AHL player. I don't mind Blandisi - he's a useful top-six player but Lucchini seems more like roster filler than anything. I dont mind blandisi either. That said Barber is better than Blandisi Varone is better than Lucchini Thats where i say clear downgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alfredoh2009 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Bouchard said today that he would not have benched them for no reason. the play by play guy at TSN690 said that they did not accept their role with the team, to have to play behind Kotkaniemi, Poehling and Vejdemo. “They were going through the paces”. they didn’t want them around the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: Bouchard said today that he would not have benched them for no reason. the play by play guy at TSN690 said that they did not accept their role with the team, to have to play behind Kotkaniemi, Poehling and Vejdemo. “They were going through the paces”. they didn’t want them around the team The problem is that they didn't have to play behind them. Barber's a winger, not a centre while Varone has been on the left wing most of the year. They should have been playing with someone like Kotkaniemi, not behind the likes of Kevin Lynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I do not disagree, but that is what was said on the radio today, on the pregame show. I think Bouchard got his marching orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Habs management likes their players doing the goose step when told, otherwise they got shipped out. Still remember lafleur being forced to retire early by Savard/lemaire and the rocket was forced out before he wanted as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Considering those were multiple ownership groups/GMs ago, i don't see the examples as being relevant. PK Subban is a much better example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: I do not disagree, but that is what was said on the radio today, on the pregame show. I think Bouchard got his marching orders From who? Marc Bergevin wouldn't be telling Bouchard to play guys on minor league contracts ahead of the players that he signed to big two-way deals just last summer. The veterans struggled last year and are struggling even more this year. To me, that's a coaching issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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