hab29RETIRED Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: WOW!! 😮😮😮 I sure wasn't expecting that from Mr. "Handles Nickles Like Manhole Covers" Bergevin. This is a huge risk on a guy coming off a disastrous season. I don't understand why there wasn't any sort of haircut following from the combination of flat cap and terrible season. It's as if the Habs felt they had no leverage. What all of this says to me is that the Habs' pro scouting staff absolutely loves this guy: he must be someone they've wanted for a long time. And now that they have him they're like, "damn the torpedoes, you're our guy!" They'd better be right. MB likes overpaying the wrong guy. Drouin, Alzner, now Anderson, when every else is being cautious with the flat cap. This is one of this huge risk, moderate reward contracts. Gross overpay in the current environment. Radio guys in Calgary are skewering MB. i guess we’ll have a better idea tomorrow how much UFA’s are getting and than comparing what we paid an RFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: Setting the bar for the Gallagher extension ? Gallagher's next AAV probably starts with a 6, maybe even a 7. Proven scorer, team engine, consistent player... and took a huge discount last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, Trizzak said: Gallagher's next AAV probably starts with a 6, maybe even a 7. Proven scorer, team engine, consistent player... and took a huge discount last time. If Anderson is $5.5, Gallagher is at least $7.5 and he’ll probably want 8 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, hab29RETIRED said: If Anderson is $5.5, Gallagher is at least $7.5 and he’ll probably want 8 years. That isn't going to happen. No way he gets 8 years. Love the guy but in 8 years he will be 36. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 I read from Arpon Basu of the Athletic that apparently the final two years of the contract, his salary is much lower, meaning that if he does slow down alot in teh final years, he'll be easier to trade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, Chris said: Drouin makes 6 mill. Enough said Haha great point. while 5.5 aav looks high at first. if he ends up a real top 6 forward for many years this will look like a good value. Also, could blow up but I think he will be worth it. I have seen him drag his teammates into games single handed, plays Big like Gallagher but Is actually big, and pretty mobile to boot. Gally, Armia and Anderson are gonna wear défenses down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: That isn't going to happen. No way he gets 8 years. Love the guy but in 8 years he will be 36. Agreed. Max I would go with Gallagher is 5 years...maybe 6 years. I love the guy, but but 8 years would be way too long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Habsfan said: I read from Arpon Basu of the Athletic that apparently the final two years of the contract, his salary is much lower, meaning that if he does slow down alot in teh final years, he'll be easier to trade! Noticed that too and the big dollars come on later (years 3,4,5 I believe) when cap will be rising again, hopefully/probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: That isn't going to happen. No way he gets 8 years. Love the guy but in 8 years he will be 36. Yeah, I think Gallagher might be 5x$7.5M or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, Chris said: Drouin makes 6 mill. Enough said Sorry If i'm being anal, but doesn't Drouin make 5.5$ per year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 The cap hit is flat, doesn’t matter what the salary is. Seems rich for Anderson, but it’s the price to buy UFA years, assuming he is productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I am a little suprised at 7 years, the dollar amount looks about right. 1 thing I will say is we are going to have a hell of team next year. Bergy has finally done some of the things we have talked about for years. I am impressed for a change. GHG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Unlikely there will be any big free agent signings by the Habs now which is likely a good thing. Most teams overpay on free agent day (ie Alzner, ouch), the Anderson signing is a risk but one I am comfortable with assuming his shoulder is fine. He was trending toward a high quality power forward before the injury and we have him locked up for his prime years. Hope it work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 Agreed! Imagine Anderson with some quality passers (Drouin and Suzuki). He might light it up (35+ goals!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, habs rule said: Bergy has finally done some of the things we have talked about for years. I am impressed for a change. Agreed! Imagine Anderson with some quality passers (Drouin and Suzuki). He might light it up (35+ goals!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 years eh Is Gallagher going to get a 8 yr deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Looking at other RWs in the $5-5.5M AAV last season this deal is not unreasonable if he does at least what is expected ... a deal if he fulfills what is hoped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, DON said: 7 years eh Is Gallagher going to get a 8 yr deal? No. In 7 years Anderson will be just leaving his prime, in 8 years Gallagher will be well past it. I am thinking 5 years for Gallagher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said: Didn’t he sign that after they won a cup and his playoff numbers being factored in? They did. I was trying to give a bit of context - even with the playoff numbers, he had 19-31-50 in 99 games. That statline is comparable to Anderson's healthy season so there is precedent for this type of deal after not a lot of success. 58 minutes ago, Habsfan said: I read from Arpon Basu of the Athletic that apparently the final two years of the contract, his salary is much lower, meaning that if he does slow down alot in teh final years, he'll be easier to trade! The breakdown of the salary and NTC is in our article on the main page: https://www.habsworld.net/2020/10/habs-sign-josh-anderson-to-a-seven-year-deal/ 57 minutes ago, Habsfan said: Agreed. Max I would go with Gallagher is 5 years...maybe 6 years. I love the guy, but but 8 years would be way too long! In Bergevin's public comments, he said he knew 4 or 5 years wouldn't be enough so it looks like 6 years at a minimum. 55 minutes ago, Habsfan said: Sorry If i'm being anal, but doesn't Drouin make 5.5$ per year? Yes, his cap hit is $5.5M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I don’t love the deal in general as of yet but it certainly is amusing to see the same people who wanted MB to overpay by millions with offer sheets, now complain that we’ve overpaid a player we targeted in order to ensure they will stay with the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 50 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: No. In 7 years Anderson will be just leaving his prime, in 8 years Gallagher will be well past it. I am thinking 5 years for Gallagher. With a seven-year contract, Gallagher would be 35 in the final season, pretty old for a smallish forward that plays aggressively. Five years would indeed be more reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: I don’t love the deal in general as of yet but it certainly is amusing to see the same people who wanted MB to overpay by millions with offer sheets, now complain that we’ve overpaid a player we targeted in order to ensure they will stay with the organization. True, Although I don't think that Bergevin overpaid by alot. Maybe 500K per year... To get a player that has the size, speed, grit and skill that Anderson has, I think is well worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 36 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: I don’t love the deal in general as of yet but it certainly is amusing to see the same people who wanted MB to overpay by millions with offer sheets, now complain that we’ve overpaid a player we targeted in order to ensure they will stay with the organization. Or Angry Hab fan: Bergevin is stupid for not spending available cap space Bergevin: Spends cap space on player we need Angry Hab fan: No, not like that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Am I the only one wondering if this might mean 0 years for Gally? Anderson doesnt have to improve much to have similar stats as Gally and according to what most are saying what Gally will want will mean that Anderson will cost about 2 mil less/yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Not a fan of the term, but cap hit looks good to me, 5.5 for a player who projects to be a top 6 RW is fine, it spreads the money around. Most teams that are in team building purgatory and at the cap ceiling at the same time, with little flexibility to address team needs, have players in the top 6 making huge AAVs. I could see him being a value issue by year 7, but as far as fitting a top 6 player into your cap situation, 5.5 seems like a very workable number with the current cap limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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