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2 hours ago, DON said:

FWIW

Mailloux 3rd pairing 14:12 in 1st game with Blues.

:shocked:

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1 hour ago, Commandant said:

 

 

Come June it is BUYOUT time.

 

In June 2026 his buyout is 1x$850,833, 3x$470,833 and 4x$850,833 ... in June 2027, after another year of $4.82M, it increases to 3x$1,353,333 and 3x$1,733,333.

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3 hours ago, GHT120 said:

Come June it is BUYOUT time.

 

In June 2026 his buyout is 1x$850,833, 3x$470,833 and 4x$850,833 ... in June 2027, after another year of $4.82M, it increases to 3x$1,353,333 and 3x$1,733,333.

I think so, too. He might find a role with another team for a much more modest salary after the buyout--or else return to Finland (and play there for a more modest salary).

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On 10/16/2025 at 9:37 AM, Commandant said:

 

 

He had to reset the access at the bottom.... lower than -8 for a game score is the lowest ive ever seen.  Yikes.

He's -7 after only 4 games, even Dach didn't manage that last year. 

 

Early signs are strong with Bolduc who, aside the obvious goal scoring flair, looks like a long term replacement/improvement for Anderson judging how hits too. 

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I wasn’t thrilled that Heineman was traded - but that was the cost for Dobson so I was ok with it. 
 

but he’s currently a top player on a bad team - no way is he a top player on a playoff-bound team imo. 2nd liner at best - which is great for him. But I don’t believe he will be among the NHL goal scoring leaders at season’s end. But with his current ice time, he very well could score 30.
 

I’m happy for him - but don’t regret losing him. 

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1 hour ago, revvvrob said:

I wasn’t thrilled that Heineman was traded - but that was the cost for Dobson so I was ok with it. 
 

but he’s currently a top player on a bad team - no way is he a top player on a playoff-bound team imo. 2nd liner at best - which is great for him. But I don’t believe he will be among the NHL goal scoring leaders at season’s end. But with his current ice time, he very well could score 30.
 

I’m happy for him - but don’t regret losing him. 

 

 Same.

 

We're in a position that Habs fans have not been in since the Serge Savard days, i.e., we have a surplus of quality talent within the organization as a whole. The result are trades like this one, where we move out a quality piece to get a high-end piece in another area. Notice that the team has not missed Heineman one iota. So we gave the Isles a good player, he goes on to have what will probably be a flourishing career, and we have no regrets because our organizational depth means we can move on without him and be just fine. This is the world of the Tampa Bays (prior to this season) and the Floridas. This is what it's like to be a fundamentally strong organization.

 

That is very different from, say, the entire 21st century until now, where the Habs either had zero strong prospects or had to cling to the small number we did have - and where a single botched move could cripple us organizationally (Sergachev). 

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1 hour ago, revvvrob said:

I wasn’t thrilled that Heineman was traded - but that was the cost for Dobson so I was ok with it. 
 

but he’s currently a top player on a bad team - no way is he a top player on a playoff-bound team imo. 2nd liner at best - which is great for him. But I don’t believe he will be among the NHL goal scoring leaders at season’s end. But with his current ice time, he very well could score 30.
 

I’m happy for him - but don’t regret losing him. 

He has been playing 3rd line minutes.

(just 8th most used forward/7th most used forward on the PP)

 

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41 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 

 Same.

 

We're in a position that Habs fans have not been in since the Serge Savard days, i.e., we have a surplus of quality talent within the organization as a whole. The result are trades like this one, where we move out a quality piece to get a high-end piece in another area. Notice that the team has not missed Heineman one iota. So we gave the Isles a good player, he goes on to have what will probably be a flourishing career, and we have no regrets because our organizational depth means we can move on without him and be just fine. This is the world of the Tampa Bays (prior to this season) and the Floridas. This is what it's like to be a fundamentally strong organization.

 

That is very different from, say, the entire 21st century until now, where the Habs either had zero strong prospects or had to cling to the small number we did have - and where a single botched move could cripple us organizationally (Sergachev). 

Good analysis.  If Heineman continues to perform this season, the Dobson trade will be more of a straight across hockey trade where both teams win and improve their organization.  Originally, it looked like Hughes fleeced a rookie gm.

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1 hour ago, BCHabnut said:

Good analysis.  If Heineman continues to perform this season, the Dobson trade will be more of a straight across hockey trade where both teams win and improve their organization.  Originally, it looked like Hughes fleeced a rookie gm.

I don’t think Hughes fleeced a rookie GM. We needed a RHD and I think we paid an extremely high price for him. Those two first picks (Ekland/Aetcheson) are both solid prospects. Heineman looked like he had really put things together until he got hit by a car in Utah🙄

so I think those picks along with drafting Schaefer make it a pretty good hockey trade for both teams when the deal was done. The way Heineman was shooting, he looked like a potential 2nd line guy and a good bet to be a valuable 3rd liner who hits, plays hard and can score.

 

I’m hoping that Roy will turn out to be a late bloomer like Heineman. But I think he will also probably be a guy we end up moving and will find success elsewhere. The key is to to get a solid core piece back when trading young players like Heineman - and I think we did that.

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6 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

We knew he was a good player. That’s not a sustainable pace, though.

Definitely not the goal-scoring, he is scoring on over 38% of his shots, even higher than Kapanen's 33%. That surely will not continue. Heineman's shooting percentage last year was 15.6%, which is far more realistic.

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11 hours ago, GHT120 said:

 

 

I like Premieau a lot more now🤣

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What a player he was. The General was indeed the well-accepted nickname, and it was perfect for the way he played. A shame we didn't give him a good team that he was healthy enough to play on until 2014, after he was (partially) compromised by those ridiculous knee injuries.

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19 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

What a player he was. The General was indeed the well-accepted nickname, and it was perfect for the way he played. A shame we didn't give him a good team that he was healthy enough to play on until 2014, after he was (partially) compromised by those ridiculous knee injuries.

Him and Price and maybe Subban are basically the only consistent elite players the Habs have had for any amount of time since 95. Kovalev was not consistent. A few players had great seasons but not at a consistent elite level.

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